The problem with midrange is that it's been left behind with too much efficiency from other combo decks, graveyard recursion, faithless looting, cantrips, etc. Decks are ripping through their decks or winning while we play a turn 3 LOTV.
Midrange is overrepresented for its power level, but it's really not what you should be doing in modern right now. It needs something stupid good like DRS or Sylvan levels, I think. I'll definitely have to roll my eyes at the thread if people celebrate over a vindicate or some type of spoiler.
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May 25, 2019I spent years playing a foiled out jund deck that is mainly irrelevant now. What makes you so feel you're entitled? I'd love a drs unban or pod but it's not happening. Great arguements or not. You moved the goal line. Before it was all blue is bad, then it was gds isnt for me. Then Phoenix is too linear.Posted in: Modern
You said it yourself, you're doing 3 and 1 or 4 and 0 a lot. Its competitive enough with where you play.
May 25, 2019As a therapist in real life, I have to say I've never seen ptsd occur from the banning of a card before.Posted in: Modern
I mean, did the twin ban fail? Yup. Does blue have a bunch of good, viable tier 1 and tier 2 decks? Yeah. You're making this hard, man.
May 25, 2019You're trying to reinvent the deck a little too much, I think. If Jund restructures that much it'll be become Jund Loam because the deck of choice for Jund, not this.Posted in: Midrange
I wonder if Wrenn could even be a 3 of. He synergies nicely with LOTV on curve. Turn 2 play him, turn 3 LOTV it up. Something like -1 Land, -1 Bob, and -1 of something else. It'll deal with the "Do I want to play 4 Bobs with 4 BBE's in the deck."
Wrenn also works nicely in that little creatures swarm the board one can be pinged away and the other could be edicted. Replacing Bob straight up is not viable though, he's still our best CA in the deck.
I also like the idea that Raging Ravine's could come back to our hands in grindy matches.
I wouldn't add Grim Flayer, he's only making your deck super soft to GY hate at that point.
May 24, 2019Sweet art work but it looks underwhelming.Posted in: Modern
I'm not sure I love the idea of SFM being unbanned anymore...I think UW midrange/control would see a major restructure but I don't love the risk. I'm beginning to agree---what is she benefitting in modern right now? DnT? It's certainly not UW decks. Abzan...has some serious fundamental issues that is outdated in modern now. Abzan would still be a very bad deck.
May 24, 2019Posted in: ModernQuote from BloodyRabbit_01 »By the way, GDS is a perfectly reasonable deck. People don't get this, but if you're a good player it's secretly quite good against Ux too.
Good deck in general? Yes.
Good in this meta? No.
Good against UW? No.
Secretly good against UW? No
Good at your local FNM because the UW players there are bad? YAS, QUEEN!
May 24, 2019Nissa's Oath is so underwhelming and at 2 mana feels like a bad play. Something like Mirri's Guile at 1 would be fantastic, for example.Posted in: Midrange
Sylvan Library (which absolutely won't happen).
Or some kind of DRS efficient threat. All I know is throwing more removal isn't what needs to be done. We have absolutely nothing to ensure flooding. Meanwhile, decks are getting leaner, running less lands, cantripping, or outright winning so quickly. Fair decks need some unfair element added to the mix.
May 24, 2019Posted in: MidrangeQuote from TundraYYC »What does everyone think of Wrenn and Six? Cut down to 23 land maybe, and run 2-3 of him? The retrace late game could be great if you have him on the field, pitch a land to cast a spell from grave, get the land back to play it for turn. Or do it the other way if you have no land to pitch, get a land then pitch it to cast a spell. Seems like he could be pretty decent. Biggest problem I see is there are already a lot of 2-drops that we want to play. Overall though, I see some potential in him.
I'm excited for this card as a 1 or 2 of. I think Jund players are dismissing it way too quickly. It's a grim lavamancer that creates CA advantage, a great ult, and pings away annoying creatures. For 2 mana. This should definitely be tested.
Is this DRS or LOTV? No. But "I think it warrants serious testing.
It's the first card in the set I've seen that's made me excited. I'm still not high on Force of Despair or Peatland until they prove otherwise.
May 24, 2019Posted in: ModernQuote from cfusionpm »Quote from Ym1r »
People have been saying this but I honestly don't get it. What is funny about it? It is possible that they had decided on this inclusion before the design of Liliana's Triumph. Why is it a net negative or a ridiculous fact that they included Diabolic Edict? It still is an iconic card, it still was not legal for modern, maybe they didn't even know. So what?
This set was supposed to represent cards to be inserted into Modern that were too powerful for Standard. So it's at least a little head-scratchingly confusing to see Edict after they just introduced a strictly better version into Standard. It's another representation of disconnect at R&D.
You could have it worse. At least you're a blue player watching this set. Imagine how the midrange/shadow players feel so far watching all this.
Blue is legit the fair decks now, and GBx/Shadow feel like the stepchild now.
No joke, blue has so many exciting things now. I'm definitely happy for all these toys they got. I'm really not understanding the bitching about counter spell. The archetype has honestly gotten a massive boon in the past two years.
May 24, 2019As a GBx player, I find Wren interesting as a 1 or 2 of in the 75. How interesting. It's the first card as a midrange player to generate a little excitement.Posted in: Modern
Some people made great points in the previous posts. A lot of arguments in the past said, "...Wait for Horizons, it'll fix a ton".
As a midrange player, I've found this set extremely disappointed. It feels like the entire archetype was overlooked. Wren gives me pause for the first time in this set for midrange. The Force is ok but could be a 1 of sideboard or just an underwhelming card. Maybe it ends up being an all-star, I don't know. Horizon lands appear more beneficial to the linear decks and less to the fair decks that care about their life total.
May 22, 2019Posted in: ModernQuote from Quamobrem »What's everyone still hoping for? Me, it's Counterspell and some more zombies (Carrion Feeder would be a great reprint, but I'm up for anything).
At this point. A playable ******* midrange card.
May 22, 2019So, for Peatland I don't think it's good news for Jund or Rock.Posted in: Midrange
I'm wondering if Jund Shadow could play a playset of this. It furthers the plan and there's no Gurmag delving. 4x Bauble, 4x Wraiths and 4x Horizons could be sexy, especially as it helps bring down the life total for Shadow.
Or the land base may be too tight, I don't know. I think as of now the Peatland only looks realistic for this Shadow deck, it's going to be bad for the rest of the midrange fair decks.
May 22, 2019I predict these lands being weaponized more against us than being beneficial. I'm happy for modern as a whole but as a midrange player I'm selfishly upset about linear decks having access to this.Posted in: Midrange
IF this slides in I imagine it would replace the blooming marsh.
Overall, this is like the equivalent of being excited that fatal push was printed when decks used to have trade tempo for our Goyfs.
Horizon has looked very poor for midrange. Luckily it's still early in the spoiler season.
We need card filtering/efficient threats, not more answers.
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