I didn't post that list for it to be competition with your list, magic geek, but rather to provide a different approach to the white weenie strategy. Yes, this Mox Amber list is definitely more of a death and taxes approach.
Ha! Lucky for me I had forgotten to select Ignore User and have now seen you agreeing with me. That's a refreshing change of pace. Perhaps a truce is in order.
Some people need to not go screaming and crying about this product: everyone knew this would be hard to get. The internet can only handle so much traffic at a time like that. Quit blaming wizards, eBay, your mom... magic players literally are the worst when things don’t go perfectly for them
Yes, you're the white-bordered version aka the worst kind.
Then you start to see some differentiation among lists. Some people still run Flame Rift, whereas others have replaced it with Skewer the Critics. Some lists run maindeck Sulfuric Vortex, whereas others now run Light Up the Stage. 18-20 basic Mountains seems par for the course, unless you're running Grim Lavamancer and Searing Blaze, in which case you'll want to add fetchlands.
Sideboard is really dependent on how your meta looks, but typically there is a combination of anti-combo cards (Pyrostatic Pillar, Red Blasts), anti-aggro cards (Searing Blood/Blaze), graveyard hate (Tormod's Crypt, Faerie Macabre, Grafdigger's Cage), anti-Batterskull/Chalice of the Void cards (Smash to Smithereens, Shattering Spree, Abrade), etc.
That list definitely misses Goblin Guide, so if you can afford it then I'd highly recommend it. Otherwise, it looks pretty stock. You may want to replace Flame Rift with Skewer the Critics and also try to find room for Light Up the Stage, perhaps trimming the Skullcrack, Sonic Burst and a Vortex or two.
You're the only one hellbent on beating Depths in this thread. Congrats on finding 3 other people in 20-40 person events that run Alpine Moon as well, though.
If you can't distinguish between a FoW deck (control/Miracles) and a deck that happens to be running blue and hence FoW (UB reanimator), I can't help you. Maybe that's the reason you can't win a 15 person event. All makes sense now.
Oh, just discovered the "Ignore User" option. Perfect.
The thing is you're the only one who is hellbent on beating Depths. You found the answer. Congrats. Good for you. Nobody else cares.
Forgive me, it's in an EDH deck, not my cube. I've been playing the game since inception, so you're not going to win the "I've been playing longer so I know more than you" battle. You've owned it for 20 years and never considered it for cube yet you'd play it in Legacy. Smart.
Yeah, now Reanimator is mostly RB, so no FoW, and Burn still loses to Reanimator. It wasn't ever FoW that Burn feared out of Reanimator, so your argument is pointless. Reanimator isn't a FoW deck - it's a deck that has blue and thus has FoW. Burn beats the FAIR FoW decks. But then again, you've proven time and time again you don't know what fair means.
Honestly, just leave him be or this will continue ad nauseam. If his goal is to win a 15-person local Legacy event, then let him run 15 Alpine Moons in his sideboard. My point is that most people in this thread probably have a grander vision of competitiveness and aren't satisfied with giving up ground on winnable matchups just to overcome one troublesome deck. Apparently he's got it all figured out now, so the Depths discussion can end. Alpine Moon = Willy Wonka's golden ticket.
And you never asked me for input on how to beat Depths. You simply asked for my decklist, which I provided. Then you proceeded to edit your post and remove the part where you asked me for my list because I called your bluff. Wish there was an option for hiding people's posts.
Sorry, yes manaless would've been a better term than colorless. In a deck that already runs so few lands, I don't see manaless cards being beneficial. I just don't see how devoting all of your sb slots to potentially improve a particularly bad matchup is the way to go for competitive Legacy. If you just want to beat a friend at the kitchen table, by all means, go for it. Maybe take that discussion to the non-competitive threads?
Also, not a personal attack, but he's notorious for being toxic/stubborn/passive aggressive in every thread. Gets very tiresome.
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=21862&d=347087&f=MO
4 Abrade, 2 Anger and a Slagstorm.
2 Gideon Blackblade
1 Gideon of the Trials
4 Karn, the Great Creator
2 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Kytheon, Hero of Akros
4 Leonin Arbiter
2 Rhys the Redeemed
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
1 Heart of Kiran
4 Mox Amber
2 Smuggler's Copter
2 Eiganjo Castle
4 Ghost Quarter
4 Horizon Canopy
2 Mobilized District
8 Plains
2 Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper
2 Damping Sphere
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Mycosynth Lattice
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Walking Ballista
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Liquimetal Coating
1 Pithing Needle
2 Torpor Orb
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Witchbane Orb
4 Coretapper
3 Sai, Master Thopterist
4 Whir of Invention
4 Astral Cornucopia
2 Chalice of the Void
1 Clock of Omens
1 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Everflowing Chalice
3 Mox Opal
4 Surge Node
4 Sword of the Meek
4 Thopter Foundry
3 Inventors' Fair
4 Island
4 Seachrome Coast
4 Spire of Industry
1 Swamp
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Damping Sphere
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Mycosynth Lattice
1 Torpor Orb
2 Battle at the Bridge
2 Deputy of Detention
2 Meddling Mage
1 Sorcerous Spyglass
3 Unmoored Ego
Yes, you're the white-bordered version aka the worst kind.
4 Goblin Guide
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
4 Chain Lightning
4 Lava Spike
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Price of Progress
4 Rift Bolt
4 Fireblast
Then you start to see some differentiation among lists. Some people still run Flame Rift, whereas others have replaced it with Skewer the Critics. Some lists run maindeck Sulfuric Vortex, whereas others now run Light Up the Stage. 18-20 basic Mountains seems par for the course, unless you're running Grim Lavamancer and Searing Blaze, in which case you'll want to add fetchlands.
Sideboard is really dependent on how your meta looks, but typically there is a combination of anti-combo cards (Pyrostatic Pillar, Red Blasts), anti-aggro cards (Searing Blood/Blaze), graveyard hate (Tormod's Crypt, Faerie Macabre, Grafdigger's Cage), anti-Batterskull/Chalice of the Void cards (Smash to Smithereens, Shattering Spree, Abrade), etc.
If you can't distinguish between a FoW deck (control/Miracles) and a deck that happens to be running blue and hence FoW (UB reanimator), I can't help you. Maybe that's the reason you can't win a 15 person event. All makes sense now.
Oh, just discovered the "Ignore User" option. Perfect.
Forgive me, it's in an EDH deck, not my cube. I've been playing the game since inception, so you're not going to win the "I've been playing longer so I know more than you" battle. You've owned it for 20 years and never considered it for cube yet you'd play it in Legacy. Smart.
Yeah, now Reanimator is mostly RB, so no FoW, and Burn still loses to Reanimator. It wasn't ever FoW that Burn feared out of Reanimator, so your argument is pointless. Reanimator isn't a FoW deck - it's a deck that has blue and thus has FoW. Burn beats the FAIR FoW decks. But then again, you've proven time and time again you don't know what fair means.
You have your solution in Alpine Moon. No more discussion needed. You can leave the thread now.
And you never asked me for input on how to beat Depths. You simply asked for my decklist, which I provided. Then you proceeded to edit your post and remove the part where you asked me for my list because I called your bluff. Wish there was an option for hiding people's posts.
Also, not a personal attack, but he's notorious for being toxic/stubborn/passive aggressive in every thread. Gets very tiresome.