Quote from Aazadan »
Really? 4 Surgical Extraction mainboard was becoming common in every deck, not just to stop Hogaak, but because it's a good answer to opposing Surgicals since everyone was running them anyways.
That deck won a big event recently, the consensus afterwards was that it didn't run enough GY hate.
Same event, same top 8, while none were MB that's a burn deck with 6 pieces of GY hate.
5 pieces, with an extra way to tutor for a piece MB, so effectively 6.
4 main, 4 side.
6 was the standard during week 2 of Hogaak, it was creeping up in week 3. And that's in addition to other cards being sideboarded just for it.
mainboarding 4 pieces of GY hate and having another 6 to 8 in the SB
And yes, it's possible it may have been less of an issue given a few more weeks... like I said before, this was a ban after 3 weeks which is unheard of, and something I'm not a fan of in general (should give the meta 3 to 6 months to adapt in most cases), but I think this was a perfect storm of a very good deck, little time to innovate (especially publicly), plus an upcoming high profile tournament where they wanted to show diversity, not dominance.
Quote from arcane7828 »I miss the days when the meta would stew for months , not just days before everyone start talking about bans.
Quote from idSurge »As we near the end here my thoughts return to several months back.
There are 2 paths for Modern, and they depend upon on not what you want to play, but on what you want to play against.
You can PLAY near whatever, and if you warp to the meta you'll be fine. I don't believe anyone can argue against that.
The problem is, what are you playing against, and are the games fun for you? Well that's an individual opinion.
So what are the 2 paths?
1. Accept Modern as what it is, warp your deck around it, and accept infrequent bans/unbans if something gets nuts.
This is how Wizards has approached the format for some time, roughly 3.5 years.
2. Push for a rebuild of the ban list. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BAN MANIA. No, what this path is, is an acceptance that Modern is flawed, but that to fix it, would take multiple bans to bring the power back down and free up some actual diversity in the format.
You would ban.
Bridge from Below
Teferi, Time Raveler
Narset, Parter of Veils
Karn, the Great Creator
Simian Spirit Guide
Would this dramatically change Modern? Yes.
Would it improve Modern? If you are an 'option 2 please' person, yes, and that's it.
Either you accept Modern for what it is, and you embrace the decks you play against, or you push not for a few bans, but whole sale changes to the format.
As for me? It's not realistic to hope for option 2. So I accept what I cannot change, and continue to just churn through the days until I take a good long break, by playing Warcraft Classic.
Modern is what it is, good, bad, or just Modern. Your cards don't disappear if you put them in storage. They don't lose $ value if they are in a box.
Don't like Modern as it is? It will not change from this path, it's too far gone.
Either a lot of bans are coming, or you accept Modern for what it is, or you take a break.
EDIT: Typo's and Card Tags as I posted this from my phone.