Quote from Feyd_Ruin »It's the Gremlins I tell you! They're ruining all of our charts! Ahhhhh.Quote from TheAnnihilator0798 »Edit: Oh, and apparently my UW control deck has a lot of green in it, according to the color pie? Not sure where that's coming from haha.
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And yes, a listing of your own decks is slated to be added
Thank you so much for all of the work you guys are putting in to this! You are appreciated.
https://youtu.be/K4RiVtq3WF0
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I haven’t heard a lot about Esper lately, so I’ve given a new and unique list a spin on my YouTube channel! Feel free to check it out:
https://youtu.be/4s6ts8b0zho
I would like to advise you to post this over on MTGNexus, as the vast majority of the active Esper content is happening over there. In fact, I updated the primer myself and will continue to manage it for as long as I can.
It's practically the same as MTGS but even perhaps better in a few small ways -- they track card prices and price changes, the notifications bring you to the last unread post rather than the end of the thread, etc.
Here's a link to the Esper Thread over there: https://www.mtgnexus.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=193
3x Celestial Colonnade
2x Drowned Catacomb
3x Field of Ruin
4x Flooded Strand
2x Polluted Delta
2x Hallowed Founatain
2x Watery Grave
3x Island
2x Plains
1x Swamp
Counters (9)
1x Spell Pierce
2x Logic Knot
3x Force of Negation
3x Cryptic Command
4x Path to Exile
3x Fatal Push
2x Kaya's Guile
2x Supreme Verdict
1x Wrath of God
1x Day of Judgment
Planeswalkers (6)
2x Narset, Parter of Veils
1x Teferi, Time Raveler
1x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2x Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Card Advantage (8)
3x Nihil Spellbomb
2x Snapcaster Mage
3x Esper Charm
3x Surgical Extraction
1x Flusterstorm
2x Blessed Alliance
2x Celestial Purge
1x Dovin's Veto
2x Timely Reinforcements
2x Spell Queller
2x Vendilion Clique
To put it simply, the deck felt very good. I think Kaya's Guile is incredibly underrated, as it gives us good lifegain mainboard. There were several times that I could've entwined it but forgot that it was an option. Guile-Snap-Guile does a very good Lingering Souls impression with 2 other modes as well. I think it's going to be a staple moving forward, but I think 2 might be the right number. As for the Nihil Spellbombs, I feel like they're good but only worth playing 2 since it's a clunky cantrip. I wasn't impressed with Narset, Parter of Veils, and I think that it could be a 2nd T3feri and a singleton Kaya, Orzhov Usurper, but Narset wasn't necessarily bad. I never saw the Spell Pierce, so I don't know if it's good. I think I'll be on Esper until Hogaak eats a ban.
4x Celestial Colonnade
2x Drowned Catacomb
3x Field of Ruin
4x Flooded Strand
2x Polluted Delta
2x Hallowed Fountain
2x Watery Grave
3x Snow-Covered Island
1x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Snow-Covered Swamp
Removal (13)
4x Path to Exile
3x Fatal Push
1x Detention Sphere
1x Kaya's Guile
4x Terminus
4x Opt
3x Esper Charm
2x Snapcaster Mage
Finishers (6)
1x Kaya, Orzhov Usurper
3x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2x Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Counters (8)
3x Force of Negation
2x Logic Knot
3x Cryptic Command
1x Supreme Verdict
2x Celestial Purge
2x Dovin's Veto
2x Rest in Peace
2x Spell Queller
3x Surgical Extraction
3x Timely Reinforcements
Well this is what I'd play in a tournament tomorrow. I think the mainboard Kaya's Guile is probably better than playing a Surgical Extraction mainboard, but I'm not sure. I also think that 4 Colonnade could be too many, but again, I'm not quite sure. Perhaps 3 is better. Finally, I'd prefer to fit a 2nd 4-mana Wrath in there somewhere for Humans, but I don't think I can cut anything. Queller is for a disruptive clock that is good against Burn/MonoR Pheonix.
If I were to play a list without Miracles, I'd be on this:
3x Celestial Colonnade
1x Creeping Tar Pit
2x Drowned Catacomb
3x Field of Ruin
4x Flooded Strand
2x Polluted Delta
2x Hallowed Fountain
2x Watery Grave
3x Snow-Covered Island
1x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Snow-Covered Swamp
Removal (13)
4x Path to Exile
3x Fatal Push
1x Detention Sphere
2x Kaya's Guile
2x Supreme Verdict
1x Wrath of God
4x Esper Charm
2x Fact or Fiction
2x Snapcaster Mage
Planeswalkers (5)
1x Kaya, Orzhov Usurper
2x Narset, Parter of Veils
2x Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Counters (9)
3x Force of Negation
2x Logic Knot
1x Dovin's Veto
3x Cryptic Command
Finishers (1)
1x White Sun's Zenith
2x Celestial Purge
2x Dovin's Veto
2x Rest in Peace
2x Spell Queller
3x Surgical Extraction
3x Timely Reinforcements
FoF might be trash, but, again, I don't know and I don't really care. Assuming I can make it to FNM this friday, I'll play this list and let y'all know how it goes.
I could also see putting together a build with some Nihil Spellbombs perhaps.
PSA: Kaya's Guile's sac mode is NOT Blessed Alliance -- they sac ANY creature, not just attackers. I almost lost a game vs. Infect for that mistake.
That's why I don't really have any suggestions for a core 60. That said, I could post my current approximate 75 if anyone is interested.
Even when they have the sac outlet, it's better to have Terminus than not to. Otherwise, you're probably just dead.
How's your BGx matchup?
Well, I'm glad you feel that way about my list, haha. I never actually switched away from Terminus. 4 mana wraths kept leaving me ready to get blown out after not exiling or tucking, or simply by followup plays.
I played Narset/T3feri briefly in the main, but they felt bad -- Narset because of it's bad with Terminus and doesn't actually impact the board, Teferi because it only makes a relative impact in Control matchups. Otherwise T3feri's a 3 mana, sorcery-speed bounce spell with gain ~1 life, which isn't really an effect I'm looking for in UW. In fact, even when Teferi stuck, he didn't actually do anything. One bounce, and 3 turns of nothing until a 2nd bounce? Yikes. FoF seems bad too, but it's a flex spot right now and it seems like it at least warrants testing.