Against mill You just need patience. Dont just fetch w/o thinking archive traps are annoying. They usually play few creatures so path and supreme veredict plan is just fine. G1 is harder, g2 bring dispel Big elsp. Leyline is just ohko. Mill doesnt have good late anyways so we
I just played ad nauseam and I did not expect to see two copies of dragonlord dromoka post board. Is this a frequent tech on their side ? Hopefully I already had extracted ad nauseam and I managed to stick a baneslayer angel (I might be wrong but I am so desperate for a clock in this MU that anything is welcome) while he did not board in slaughter pact. Explosives covered the ancillary maniac combo.
Won 2-1 but that was scary (game one unwinnable because I had a removal heavy hand and he had the turn 4, game 2 as above and game 3 I bounced boseiju several times to get there with snappy's and a last colonnade hit. Probably lucky that it ended that way...).
The only build that runs 1-2 dromokas is the bring to light version which uses glittering wish too. If it wasnt this build well then he was probably testing it. I`ve played dromoka like that but teferi is just better imo.
Against AD remember to side in any artifact hate against inexperienced pilots, bring some dispel and dont take out spot removal, for the same reason: experience
hi guys been lurking this thread from some time ago and now im currently playing the "visionless" list, former AD pilot btw. I just love esper from long time ago and draw and go has been very fun to pilot. Anyways on the droma`s charm topic what about dawn charm? I haven`t finished this thread so if you have already discussed then ups haha
you can still win with a chalice on 1 by playing unlife and going for ad nauseam. though the chalice on 1 hurts our cantrips a bunch. chalice for 3 when you forgot to side in echoing truth is back-breaking.
Yep thats a good reason to play the 4th unlife i guess
So yesterday some friends of mine put together a little event, nothing too fancy but it was super fun
meta:
Abzan Death Shadow
Amulet Titan
Grixis Death Shadow
Ad Nauseam
BW Tokens
Bant Knightfall
U-Tron
Eldrazi Tron x2
Mardu Midrange
u/w control blade
Burn x2
Abzan
Jund
i finished 4th just losing against eldrazi tron twice. Here its what i`m currently playing:
so yeah fetches, only 2 pacts (there`s little control decks around here tbh) and esper charm main (love this card), anyways quick report:
r1 2-0 burn, very straight forward, nothing to talk about
r2 2-0 Bant Knightfall, fun match, I almost lost to spell queller but pact of negation saved the day.
r3 1-2 tron eldrazi, so this is hard, is not like the typical tron match up, going to address this later.
r4 2-1 tron eldrazi, got lucky on game 1, game 2 was awful he just TKS`d me to death, game 3 was all about sideboarding.
t8 first match tron eldrazi 2-1 same friend i just beat in r4, deja vu pretty much
t8 second match tron eldrazi 0-2, so yeah chalice of the void is just stupid, game 2 i was facing chalice on 0, 1 and 5
so basically the deck felt amazing and i wanted to talk about chalice of the void. Spoils build might be the worst build against any chalice of the void deck. Just one chalice on 1 is brutal against us on game 1. The eldrazi tron who by the way won the whole thing, is running 4 chalice main. Every game i played against him was like this t2 chalice on one, so in order to at least put on a fight i sided out most angel graces and cantrips relaying almost entirely on scry lands and peers which even then were just awesome it really makes easier to side in leylines and other stuffs like supreme veredict and what not, maybe is time for some echoing truth main, but even then, chalice on 2 is just as painful.
lol no, counter target spell for 0 mana > counter target non-creature spell for a blue card and 1 silly restriction
technically in any mu if you think they are bringing hate from the board instead of removal
yeah, anyways i`m currently playing esper and thinking into build uw control so w/e
The only build that runs 1-2 dromokas is the bring to light version which uses glittering wish too. If it wasnt this build well then he was probably testing it. I`ve played dromoka like that but teferi is just better imo.
Against AD remember to side in any artifact hate against inexperienced pilots, bring some dispel and dont take out spot removal, for the same reason: experience
Yep thats a good reason to play the 4th unlife i guess
meta:
Abzan Death Shadow
Amulet Titan
Grixis Death Shadow
Ad Nauseam
BW Tokens
Bant Knightfall
U-Tron
Eldrazi Tron x2
Mardu Midrange
u/w control blade
Burn x2
Abzan
Jund
i finished 4th just losing against eldrazi tron twice. Here its what i`m currently playing:
4x Angel's Grace
3x Phyrexian Unlife
1x Lightning Storm
1x conflagrate
1x Mystical Teachings
3x Peer Through Depths
4x Serum Visions
3x Sleight of Hand
2x Pact of Negation
1x esper charm
4x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Lotus Bloom
4x Pentad Prism
4x Gemstone Mine
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Island
1x Plains
2x Polluted Delta
1x Swamp
4x Temple of Deceit
2x Temple of Enlightenment
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Watery Grave
1x mikokoro, center of the sea
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
3x ethereal haze
1x Slaughter Pact
1x blessed alliance
1x Laboratory Maniac
4x Leyline of Sanctity
1x echoing truth
2x thoughtseize
1x supreme veredict
so yeah fetches, only 2 pacts (there`s little control decks around here tbh) and esper charm main (love this card), anyways quick report:
r1 2-0 burn, very straight forward, nothing to talk about
r2 2-0 Bant Knightfall, fun match, I almost lost to spell queller but pact of negation saved the day.
r3 1-2 tron eldrazi, so this is hard, is not like the typical tron match up, going to address this later.
r4 2-1 tron eldrazi, got lucky on game 1, game 2 was awful he just TKS`d me to death, game 3 was all about sideboarding.
t8 first match tron eldrazi 2-1 same friend i just beat in r4, deja vu pretty much
t8 second match tron eldrazi 0-2, so yeah chalice of the void is just stupid, game 2 i was facing chalice on 0, 1 and 5
so basically the deck felt amazing and i wanted to talk about chalice of the void. Spoils build might be the worst build against any chalice of the void deck. Just one chalice on 1 is brutal against us on game 1. The eldrazi tron who by the way won the whole thing, is running 4 chalice main. Every game i played against him was like this t2 chalice on one, so in order to at least put on a fight i sided out most angel graces and cantrips relaying almost entirely on scry lands and peers which even then were just awesome it really makes easier to side in leylines and other stuffs like supreme veredict and what not, maybe is time for some echoing truth main, but even then, chalice on 2 is just as painful.
agreed
if you are not using monkeys you are doing it wrong.
another mu worth considering the monkey way is against mill imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vekK72IWv3g
edit
ok it is and is kinda old
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-modern-negative-life-combo/