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  • posted a message on Gathering Magic preview card - Tamiyo, Field Researcher
    Huh. I know a lot of us suspected she might be UG but I never expected full on Bant.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Innistrad Art Book Discussion
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    Huh. So we know the magic story better than Creative does. It's interesting that Nahiri's plan to lock Emrakul in the moon is still depectited as outright evil. I guess they want to get some villain mileage out of her before they redeem/kill her. I appreciate the confirmation that spending so long in proximity to Emrakul did indeed snap her.

    Olivia, Bruna, and Gisela are dead. I have I lot I could say about this, but most of it I've already posted in some form or another.


    But it's not Nahiris plan. Tamiyo and Nissa do it. Nahiri still hasn't shown any intent to seal Emmy. She wanted Sorin to die with his plane. Nahiri is still a *****.

    There is some ambiguity in the summary given, it's said at the start of the Sorin/Nahiri section that she wants Sorin to sacrifice himself for his plane, probably to parallel the way that she sacrificed "her life" (5000years) for Zendikar.

    This implies that Nahiri DOES in fact have a plan to save the plane, but it relies on Sorin making a heroic sacrifice.

    What she apparently didn't count on was him saying NO.

    Then she seems to fly off what little bit of a rocker she has left and decides "Fine. If you won't die FOR your plane, you cam die WITH it instead."
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Innistrad Art Book Discussion
    Quote from Vorthospike »
    What magic would Tamiyo have to seal Emrakul? Maybe she learns the story of the original sealing from Sorin, Nahiri, or Ugin.


    Could it be that she pulls the trigger on Chekhov's Gun? (the Serra realm iron scroll)

    It could be about collapsing the plane (a thing [Emrakul]) into the Weatherlight's powerstone core (a container [the moon]).
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Eldritch Moon General Discussion Thread
    I doubt it, not seriously at least. Sorin went along with Ugin's plans at least partly because Ugin was more powerful than him. He in turn was stronger than Nahiri. I don't think he'd have ever thought she could overpower Ugin.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Innistrad Art Book Discussion
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    I'd like to see the church restructured as such;

    Sigarda and her angels, The Host of Herons (GW)

    The spoiler giver didn't specifically say that she's with her angels, so I bet most of Sigarda's troops are all human (unless all Host of Herons angels share the same imuneness to the maddening that Sigarda has)


    Right, yes. I should have said Sigarda, the cathars loyal to her, and whatever if any of the non-eldrazid angels that remain.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Art Book Spoilers
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    So now we need antigatewatch. Tezzereth, Garruk, Tibalt, Nahiri and Ob Nixilis. Save this s**t.

    Yeah...

    Ob would never work with Nahiri. She's the one who implanted a hedron in his head and depowered him on Zendikar. About all he'd be interested in when it comes to her is bathing in her blood.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Art Book Spoilers
    He's probably letting her in so that he can keep an eye on her and the veil until they can figure out how to destroy it.

    Wouldn'tn't you rather keep the WMD where you know where it is until you can neutralize it, than let it wander around the multiverse on its own?

    Plus Jace is probably vouching for her at least a little.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Innistrad Art Book Discussion
    I'd like to see the church restructured as such;

    Sigarda and her angels, The Host of Herons (GW)
    Talia and the Order of St. Traft(UW) taking over in place of Flight Alabaster
    Arlinn and her werewolves as Pack Goldnight(RW).
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Art Book Spoilers
    So, basically it seems like Nahiri had a plan in place to deal with Emrakul, but that plan required forcing Sorin into a heroic sacrifice (which is likely how she herself views her 5000 years as warden of Zendikar).

    Except Sorin said no.

    Then Nahiri lost whatever tenuous grasp she had left on reality/justice/decency and went "Fine, if you won't save your plane, then die with it."
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Five different sequels for Innistrad (without eldrazi in it!)
    Voted for 3 of the options. Hell, witching hour and sea god, in that order for preference.

    Hell and witching hour cause there's got to be SOME repercussions for all those demons being released. Plus I'd really have liked Arlinn getting more of the focus than she has been.

    Sea god just cause.
    Posted in: Personal Writing
  • posted a message on Planeswalking for Non-Planeswalkers
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    The Boros sky ship Parhelion (where Razia and her angels lived) was apparently originally built as an inter-planar vesel (according to the wiki page). To the best of my knowledge, it's never really explained why or by whom.

    It's also odd that Niv Mizzet wouldn't know about planeswalkers if the Boros have had a ship capable of inter-planar travel for the last several millennia...
    To be fair, during that entire time Ravnica was sealed from inter-planar action by the Guildpact so while they call Parhelion an inter-planar ship it never left the plane. It was designed to ride 'on top' of the planar bubble which is why it could fly. Plus the whole Niv doesn't know about planeswalkers is just theory based on the ignorance of his lesser guild members, by all rights he should know, partially because he signed a contract 10,000 years ago with one to keep others out.


    True enough. Having not read the books from Original Ravnica, all I really have to go on is Ral Zarek's assumptions that Niv's ego would probably be so wounded by there being something he couldn't do, that he'd likely eat them.

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    The Myojin if Night's Reach was able to transcend the planes, wasn't she? Was that through magic, innate ability or simply the weakening of barriers between worlds? If she could, then why not others?

    Indeed she was able to. According to the wiki, the kami war caused Kamigawa's planar barrier to waver, and she discovered that this allowed her to essentially slip through the cracks and travel to different planes. That doesn't really explain how she was still capable of planeswalking during Time Spiral, thousands of years later, though. Unless the planar boundaries were permanently weakened as a result of the war.

    Likewise Marit Lage was a planeswalking nonplaneswalker with little to no explanation.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Planeswalking for Non-Planeswalkers
    The Boros sky ship Parhelion (where Razia and her angels lived) was apparently originally built as an inter-planar vesel (according to the wiki page). To the best of my knowledge, it's never really explained why or by whom.

    It's also odd that Niv Mizzet wouldn't know about planeswalkers if the Boros have had a ship capable of interplanar travel for the last several millennia...
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on List of Planeswalkers By Home Plane
    I'd like to see a Lorwyn flamekin planeswalker (I actually have one in my magic set editor files somewhere). The trick with the flamekin is that apparently they don't have a complete soul until after they finish thwir pilgrimage, (?) so it's unclear if they could actually possess a spark. Though that'd be simple enough to explain, and the merger of the two halves of your soul could even be a handy built in spark triggering event.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Lore Wise...Who are the strongest Planeswalkers?
    My money would be on Bolas prodding them into killing each other.

    Even if the Theros gods did have the strength combined to defeat him, there's simply no way that they could or would work together seamlessly enough to achieve that.

    Turning them against each other would be child's play for a schemer like Bolas.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    I find it interesting how Sorin's actions are forming a parallel to Nahiri's.

    Nahiri sees Eldrazi ravaging her homeworld. "Welp, plane's a lost cause. Time for revenge."

    Sorin sees Eldrazi ravaging his homeworld. "Welp, plane's a lost cause. Time for revenge."
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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