This does not belong here.
Wizards and any affiliated companies, organizations, stores etc need to stay out of politics. What one gamer does is not the business of a franchise and their product has nothing to do with the behavior of single people.
Wizards getting involved, this website getting involved and others continuously commenting on this and getting involved is what is destroying not just this society but even the American one with the larger more political events.
There will always be sexism and racism what people need to do is stop being hyper sensitive and stop coddling wounds and focusing on the predators. Christine Sprankle lost when she stepped out of the community. Rather than just stick up for herself publicly or take it to court and use out judicial process available she simply gave up and whined about it.
This is a far deeper issue in not just this community but society. She expects us to do things for her, defend her, and react to her "sorrow"
This is the problem. People need to learn to grow a thick skin and defend themselves appropriately.
And wizards apologizing for things like the garruk and lili art coddles this childish behavior.
We cant even have our FU**ing game bc people are too sensitive. The hyper sensitivity and need to coddle those with these ideals seeps not only inot our game but into star wars and now marvel comics with their female iron man and captain america.
Its frustrating to see these companies getting involved in these ideals rather than staying true to their fans and the game/story.
This is the same for this website. We dont care about opinions anymore. State your opinions ONCE and move on. STOP lingering on emotions and the same thing and move on. Jeremy is so guilty of this i mean his videos are 20 minutes long because he rattles on about the same shi*.
He is out of hand and offending ppl unnecessarily but on the flipside others need to stop being offended and move on. And we must all recognize that he does have a point on the leftist philosophies seeping into our games and hobbies and that is very frustrating.
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If it is easier to play hollow one then pitch varolz, if you can pitch varolz in order to cast tasigur turn 3 then go for it. Varolz shouldnt be the main tactic of the deck. The tactic of the deck is to adapt. You can play tempo or play very very aggressive by playing all the discard and grisly salvage and solely search or the hollow one/vengevine route. Alternatively you can go the hollow one/varolz route. or you can go the varolz/shadow/vengevine route.
Now I am still working out the kinks but i fell like i am getting very close. This month i am adding in fetchlands (wooded foothills, bloodstained mires) and this will really smoothen the consistency up. I test this deck vs my other modern decks (E-tron, affinity) and I will be honest and say it is on the edge of really blowing them out of the water but I am missing something and I am not sure what.
Skitzafreak I highly recommend at least testing a few tasigurs. Grisly Salvage + Tasigur turn 2 is seriously business (of course you need a bird out
But I am having some very very explosive plays with my list. In the coming weeks I will be testing it out versus a few other modern decks.
as for this being a weaker Grixis Shadow I have to disagree. This deck has the ability to go very wide, much wider than grixis shadow not only that, thsi deck is more resiliant to removal especially against fatal pushes. Of course this deck isnt AS GOOD as grixis shadow but grixis shadow has so many people working out the kinks, I honestly feel this deck has far more potential.
We are close gentleman, we are very close.
But i maybe wrong.
One pretty cool combo is to cast conflagrate turn 1 for zero and than flashback it turn two discarding most of your hand which will allow you to cast any hollow one and cast tasigur, the golden fang turn three. I have actually done this a few times now with play testing.
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Death's Shadow
4x Gravecrawler
3x Hollow One
4x Lotleth Troll
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
3x Varolz, the Scar-Striped
4x Vengevine
3x Vexing Devil
2x Grisly Salvage
2x Cathartic Reunion
2x Conflagrate
4x Faithless Looting
2x Life from the Loam
Lands
2x Blood Crypt
1x Dragonskull Summit
3x Forest
2x Mountain
3x Overgrown Tomb
3x Stomping Ground
2x Swamp
1x Woodland Cemetery
I got rid of grisly salvage. It is honestly just too slow at two mana and doesnt help the deck at all. I replaced them with magmatic insight which works so so well with life from the loam and Id like to say that life from the loam is such an amazing card to have when you have conflagrate as you can discard excess land to the flashback which will deal damage as well as get your hollow one into play.
New Deck list I took out the grisly salvage and added magmatic insight, cut out one life from the loam and added an extra hollow one so im up to three
turn one stomping ground, turn two blood crypt into faithless looting, tap another red for magmatic insight, play any hollow one you picked up. That is a 4 card dig not to mention you may have discarded some vengevine.
Good stuff
As for the lands I can see your point and I dont have anything more to say other than exact number of lands is a tricky part of deck building but id like to point out have you ever tried sideboarding out a land when youre on the draw? I know this tactic is popular amongst affinity players. just a thought.
As for my deck i do want to run 4 hollow one and am currently looking what to take out. I was thinking brownscale which would hurt my dredge option. I was also thinking about life from the loam because I honestly hate drawing that card, especially multiples but it is very useful when dumping nothing but lands from the grisly salvage.
What would you suggest I drop?
Lastly the varolz/shadow or varolz/devil combo is very nice but it makes the deck a little more difficult to play I would say as there are more options on what you should do with shadow and devil in terms of should i dump them to a troll or a reunion or should I keep them for later in the game when i draw into Varolz.. I find dumping shadow into the GY before you have varolz out isnt the best play. The optimal play is to play varolz and shadow at the same time when your health is lower. But I digress.
With your list I do recommend at least trying shadow out but your list seems pretty tight as is, maybe give some thought to conflagrate. Its flash back is killer.
Though I am probably less experienced than you with this exact build I would say get rid of tasigur there was not one game from what I remember that you played him or where he would have come in handy. Possibly play 18 lands because I do remember you being a little mana hungry a few times.
Otherwise the deck performs really well and again I trully believe there is something that can push this over the edge into tier 2 or tier 1 status we just need to find it.
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Death's Shadow
2x Golgari Brownscale
4x Gravecrawler
2x Hollow One
4x Lotleth Troll
3x Varolz, the Scar-Striped
4x Vengevine
3x Vexing Devil
Spells
2x Cathartic Reunion
1x Conflagrate
4x Faithless Looting
3x Grisly Salvage
2x Life from the Loam
3x Blood Crypt
3x Forest
1x Mountain
4x Overgrown Tomb
4x Stomping Ground
3x Swamp
3x Abrupt Decay
2x Ancient Grudge
2x Conflagrate
2x Darkblast
2x Gnaw to the Bone
3x Raven's Crime
1x Vengeful Pharaoh
I have updated my list to include a Conflagrate and Hollow One.
This list does very very well and is able to put out alot of explosive damage by turn 3 fairly consistently. It is also very toolboxy with the death shadow, brownscale, and conflagrate.
I find a one of conflagrate to be very effective as it is most useful from the graveyard.
I love being at less than 10 life and casting two shadows or casting shadow and varolz. It immediately changes the game in your favor. This deck suffers most against flyers. Such as fairies and affinity however, the sideboard darkblasts and conflagrates really deal with that quite effectively.
Since this isnt a very dredge heavy list it is able to adapt to GY hate being brought in especially with hollow one on the MB. I have considered running 4 and even siding out the vengevines for 4 hollow ones game two as the GY hate is definitely on its way after sideboarding. But I am currently playing this list and it is working very well. I would actually have to say you can choose to either go the dredge route or the discard route as dredge allows for the recurrence of vine, gravecrawler and conflagrat while the discard methods allows for deaths shoadow, varolz, and hollow one route to be taken. Its very adaptive
My best play so far has been a turn 2 double faithless looting into 2 hollow ones and 3 vengevines it was glorious.
Let me know what you guys think.
Edit:
ater watching Skitzafreaks gameplay i am considering playing street wraith as a two of instead of brownscale which will help turn on deaths shadow as well as help cast hollow one.. what do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
There are times when I never even draw opal and I win easily and just as smoothly as I do when I do draw opal.
There is no denying that when you draw opal in a good hand it makes that hand 100 times better but I honestly believe that the deck could still do OK without it. But yes mox opal increases its power for sure, no doubts about it. Now that being said I dont believe the deck would be as competitiive as it is. Like I said it would be an OK deck.
please let me know what you think
The bottom list is what I am running the top list is what I want to run
4x ink nex
4x blink nex
4x darksteel citadel
2x glimmervoid
1x spire of industry
1x academy ruins
1x island
As opposed to
4x ink nex
4x blink nex
4x glimmervoid
4x darksteel citadel
1x island
My main deck excluding lands are
4x arcbound ravager
4x vault skirge
4x ornithopter
4x signal pest
2x memnite
3x etched champion
2x master of etherium
1x steel overseer
4x mox opal
4x cranial plating
3x springleaf drum
3x thoughcast
2x galvanic blast
3x ensoul artifact
Do you guys think the mana base I listed at the very top is good or would you guys stick with the traditional mana base?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated also sorry for not tagging cards im on my iphone and its a pretty big hassle doing that with this device.
But i have been wanting to test out collected company as well i guess claim//fame will have to be another test subject. No harm in doing so.