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  • posted a message on Collected Company Elves
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    With the BG version, have you guys ever thought about playing a copy of Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord? Even if Collected Company doesn't fetch it, I think that one copy of that card might be useful. It can be used to fire some damage at the opponent when the board is full of creatures and it's hard to attack. Against creatureless decks, it becomes big after a mass removal like Damnation. The problem about that is: not profitable if the board is hit by Anger of the Gods.

    Am I just insane? Should I just quit Modern and go straight to EDH? You answer that.

    Also, Primal Command along with Jarad against decks like Burn seems so powerful. Maybe in the sideboard?

    It can be a budget option to something, anyway.


    There was a point in time where I was searching gatherer for 4 cmc elves, because I was experimenting with Eldritch Evolution and what I could potentially pull at 4 cmc that would make it worthwhile.

    Jarad didn't make the cut because:

    1. Double B - in a nonzero number of games you will be stuck without enough B to cast it.
    2. Lack of Value - Jarad has the same issue as Dwynen; no ETB ability. Meaning for 4 cmc, he has no value if removed immediately. To be worth it, he must be game-ending, like Ezuri. But he's a lot worse than ezuri, and more expensive, and harder to cast.
    3. Fragile - No hexproof, no regeneration. His resilience comes in the form of return to hand via sacrificing forest and swamp. Which is never going to happen because we don't run swamps, and even if we did, how are you going to cast him against after sacrificing a precious black source?
    4. Lacklustre abilities:
    4.a His +1/+1 passive: basically means he's only good when the situation is bad. And even then, Anger is a very frequently used boardwipe, what with Dredge running around. A much better substitute is Scavenging Ooze, which is half the cost, easier to cast, serves GY hate utility, lifegain utility, and can also get big using creatures in your GY (and theirs).
    4.b His activated ability is crap because it costs 1BG to activate. I mean, who has that much B lying around anyway? It might have been a great finisher if it didn't cost mana over the already prohibitive sacrifice cost. Ours is a creature deck, so if we start sacrificing stuff it better be because we're ending it. Shaman of the pack is our reach, is picked up by coco, provides a body and doesn't need us to invest anything else.

    Regarding the Burn match up. With Scavenging Ooze and Essence Wardens, you don't really need a 5 mana sorcery specifically for lifegain or tutoring. As far as 4 cmc goes for winning Burn matches goes, you have Dwynen, Gilt-leaf Daen, who for 4 cmc is a Lord provides lifegain while you clock the opponent, which is exactly what you want to be doing.



    Well, that explains everything, indeed. You're absolutely correct, thank you.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Collected Company Elves
    With the BG version, have you guys ever thought about playing a copy of Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord? Even if Collected Company doesn't fetch it, I think that one copy of that card might be useful. It can be used to fire some damage at the opponent when the board is full of creatures and it's hard to attack. Against creatureless decks, it becomes big after a mass removal like Damnation. The problem about that is: not profitable if the board is hit by Anger of the Gods.

    Am I just insane? Should I just quit Modern and go straight to EDH? You answer that.

    Also, Primal Command along with Jarad against decks like Burn seems so powerful. Maybe in the sideboard?

    It can be a budget option to something, anyway.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
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