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  • posted a message on [ELD] Forbes article introducing Oko, the Fey Shapeshifter (no card spoiler)
    There is literally an article that came out yesterday by the NYT titled "Beach Body Tyranny Hurts Men Too"

    Seems relevant to this conversation about the oversexualization of male characters

    I would post a link but I don't want this post deleted. Shouldn't be hard to find.

    A thought regarding the thread title - Maybe WoTC has seen the shapeshifter typing as an opportunity to present visually androgynous humanoids? I ask you to consider a scenario with me.

    Maybe someone high up at WoTC made an equation in their minds and thought that "if one can shapeshift at will, into whatever gender they so choose as a result of their transformation, then maybe this physical change also constitutes a change in their sexuality as well - and therefore we will represent shapeshifters to be recognizable as androgynous".

    I'm not saying this scenario was the logical steps taken to arrive at this representation of shapeshifters, but the scenario does point out the slippery slope of bad logic that is associating the shapeshifting mechanic with an equally fluid sexuality.

    Without a background of how a given shapeshifter acquired this ability (magic or genetic) how are we to know how there ever becomes more shapeshifters? If it's genetic manipulation that allows the transformation, it begs the question of "how does this species reproduce?" And if WoTC's explanation for the shapeshifting ability is indeed based in genetics, then there would be an assumption of sexuality placed on this species - but we know well that WoTC won't delve into whether they reproduce asexually, sexually or anything else under the sun. WoTC would still not go into that detail, and would therefore continue the disconnect of information regarding whether this species even has a sexuality at all.

    And if we can't know how this species reproduces, how then can WoTC confer our own human interpretation of sexuality onto these characters just because they shapeshift?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [C19] Mire of Misery -oh lets just say maro said they are starting to give black these types of cards
    Quote from Obazervazi »
    Quote from Carthage »
    I do welcome the ability to answer other permanent types in the colors that can't, that's an outdated color pie ideal that makes the game worse.

    I just wish they would add it for red, the color they seem to hate the most.

    haphazard bombardment remains one of the worst designs they've ever printed, they went out of their way to NOT give red a flavorful way to destroy enchantments.

    You do realize that black still cannot deal with artifacts, right? Put simply, Naturalize will never be printed in black for the same reason it will never be printed in red. Each color needs to have strengths and weaknesses, or there's no point in having colors at all.

    Can't deal with artifacts? Heresy! There are some options available, albeit older than most of the people I play against

    Phyrexian Tribute
    Gate to Phyrexia
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  • posted a message on [C19] Mothership spoilers 8/8 - New version of Chainer, curse of fools wisdom and big game hunter reprint
    Chainer, Nightmare Adept + Cryptic Gateway = cheat out any human at instant speed and give it haste?

    BR human tribal sounds kind of random though...tough to say if it's worth doing without looking at the Gatherer.. though there are endless humans in every color it seems....

    just thinking of ways to cheat creatures from the hand and still give them haste

    Lots of brew potential with the new Chainer. RB needed the love its getting in C19 desperately. I've been unsatisfied with almost all the RB commander options since Grusilda, Monster Masher came out (and yes I do have a Grusilda deck that my playgroup is fine with me playing). Since those few years ago, RB has gotten much more variety in directions to brew. Thank goodness

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  • posted a message on [C19] The Loregoyfs Preview - Greven, Predator Captain
    I dont recall how it goes this year, but I'm really hoping this is a foil... or has a foil at some point. The art on the Weatherlight characters would pop in foil. Especially this and the new Gerrard art

    I'm getting a lot of brew inspiration with the new RB legends in C19. Glad the alternate tri-color commanders and the ancillary legends aren't as narrow as the flagship legends.

    I'm not at all bothered by WoTC's revisiting old cards from an era and just slapping the effect on a new imagining of a related legend from that era. It feels refreshing actually. I'm liking the idea of a creature in play having abilities that used to be on enchantments or spells.

    I am so glad that WoTC is using the Commmander product in this way of revisiting old legends. Now let's get onto making Hypnox a legend and we'll be good! We need more nightmare horror legends. I want nightmare and horror tribal by now! lol
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  • posted a message on [c19] K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth
    VERY on-theme for mono black! Pay that life to get ahead! Pay pay pay! Make it rain... your own blood and your enemies'! lol
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on C19 - Commanders
    I’m really not feeling it this year. As a vorthos I could care less about mechanics, and these commanders really are ultra specialized. It’s fine though, last year was amazing for me and I’ve had a lot of cards for my decks get released recently. So I could use a break and for others to get what they want. I do want the new Gerrard but I suspect I won’t be intrigued until Throne of Eldraine

    For the 2nd year in a row I'm wondering if the $140-$160 for the 4 boxes would be better used on singles. Last year I bought 2 playsets of a rare card for $8. That card was listed at $1/ea initially, like within 10 min of the listing - and by the end of the next day was at $12 ea elsewhere. 12x multiplier in 24hrs. A lot of money can be saved if you can snatch up stuff in the initial hours of singles going on sale.. Regarding your first two sentences, I'm agreeing with your sentiment completely. Feels like another very focused batch of product is coming. After seeing 3 of 4 of the flagship commanders already, I'm not seeing much that compels me as a brewer. I hope there's a backup 3-color legend in each box, that are each a bit less focused than the flagships, to replace what we're seeing as the first options. I don't expect it, but a person can hope!
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  • posted a message on Comander 2019 preview schedule
    Right? I don't understand people who get so irrationally irritated at something like this. Just go to a spoiler compiler and let other people enjoy it their own way. Woof.

    On your first point - Outrage is soooo so easy, and most people would rather walk away from ugliness rather than engage and call out someone.. I appreciate you're calling out the irrational outrage

    On your second point - The outrage seems to be a function of laziness

    But I'm lazy too in that I very much enjoy coming here to see everything in one place

    And I do want to say thank you to all the folks who do that leg work of sharing the content here with us. Thank you folks for enabling my laziness, the centralized spoilers here on this forum were the initial reason I found this site some years ago.

    The fact that content creators get the opportunity to benefit on the back end of all their work and WoTC's combined is good business - and I don't find that reason for the dispersion of the spoilers as anything but good business. It's not a detractor, it just comes with the territory. It's baked into the bread.

    Congrats to all those content creators

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  • posted a message on Demon Deck Ideas- New to Commander
    I have had a mono black Demon tribal EDH deck for the better part of 3 years now and the two demons I have found to be best suited as the Commander are:

    Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
    Demonlord Belzenlok

    Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
    Pros: Demon decks run lots of threats, often expensive to get out. Protect all that work by adding another layer in the form of Ob Nixilis, Unshackled to be such a road block to further removal that he soaks it up himself, or if the opponent(s) have no answers to your already scary boardstate, he protects it even further by denying tutor-responses. Think of Ob Nixilis, Unshackled as a blanket of protection for what you're already trying to do. His sac trigger also helps immensely against other black that may have sac themes, and can sometimes push him over the edge if nobody removes him fast enough while you're doing your demon-like-business of killing lots of creatures. Positive synergy is easy with this commander.

    Cons: Getting this fella out too early will often hose multiple people trying to set up their early game and get you more enemies than necessary. Not a great choice as the very first Demon to put out and can get you hated out of a game if your timing is bad. A lack of an ETB also makes his power level rather flat. His 4/4 base is also within range of dying to most aggro Commanders if you had to chump block on the turn after playing him. That's especially painful to have a 4/4 body on a 6-drop if you had no ramp or other chump blockers. Even more reason to use him strategically for his anti-tutor and sac synergy, meaning there could be some games where he's unnecessary.

    - - - -

    Demonlord Belzenlok

    Pros: Has a scaling ETB trigger that is even more powerful if combined with lots of ramp. This ETB combined with 6/6 base stats makes him relevant as your first demon on the table or as your last. Jamming the necessary ramp in the deck to make Demon tribal a serious threat is also mitigated by the extra ETB card draw and can actually speed up demons to a ridiculous level of power. My personal Demon deck ramps so hard with Demonlord Belzenlok that the threats become exponential and diverse enough - and mind you black is very good a disrupting your opponents - that I run away with the game even 3 vs 1. If the deck is tuned enough to average Demonlord Belzenlok on T4, by virtue of this deck-design you're going to be set up to steamroll the table regardless of what toys you jam into the deck. He is also a prime target for reanimating over and over and getting immediate value from the card draw.

    Cons: Without mitigating the ETB life-loss, you will burn through your own life and be susceptible to being ganged up on. If you're doing Demonlord Belzenlok right you'll be getting ganged up on anyways. The fact that Demonlord Belzenlok also exiles all the lands he goes past is relevant in long grindy games, or games where you can't rely on keeping mana rocks in play to assist the flow of the deck. Exiling Cabal Coffers T4 is always painful - but it wouldn't have mattered if it were a Thran Dynamo.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Commander July 8th Banlist Update
    Quote from Creedmoor »
    Kind of happy Iona got the ban. She locked some opponents out of the game completely.

    Iona is such a cheese card in EDH that:

    every one of my monocolored EDH decks ran at least 4 devoid/colorless spot removal cards
    (that's 8 EDH decks *4 = 32 cards)

    every one of my black or red-dominant multicolor decks also ran the same suite of spot removal
    (that's at least another 6 decks *4 = 24 cards)

    So I bought 56 copies of duplicates of the same 4 colorless removal cards just for that bitch.

    So what that means is that I had to pay the cost of those 50+ cards as an overhead cost on all those decks, just so I can play EDH.

    Banning Iona in itself means a depression in value is coming for all that colorless spot removal, if any significant number of other folks gameplanned specifically for Iona like I was doing.. That's a format warping card if I'd say so. Glad she's gone

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Gorging Vulture (Strictly Better mtg preview)
    Quote from Creedmoor »
    Wow this is actually a decent common. Would definitely run this in my Pauper Izoni, Thousand-Eyed edh deck.

    Your PDH group lets you use any legendary as the commander huh? Never seen that

    My group / groups I have played in all used an uncommon as the commander, with the legendary restriction lifted/optional.

    Regarding the Gorging Vulture in singleton format, it has decent value for 3 mana

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Shifting Ceratops (GLHF)
    Quote from headminerve »
    This thing can have... reach ??? I have in mind a picture of a ceratops chewing a dragon's leg in midair.

    Yeah it can Reach those backwards-facing tusks right over its back to defend from the expected "bite behind the head-crest" technique

    It can "Reach" behind its own head to fend off flyers, see?

    WoTC Card Design: "we need a triceratops with reach, how do we do that?"
    Co-worker: "let's, you know, just....have its horns point backwards"
    Card Design: "Lumbergh, get that artist on the phone!"

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on ETB damage strat ideas
    Quote from 3drinks »
    You might consider Edgar Markov instead as he generates extra bodies effortlessly from t1 and on, and you can add Impact Tremors to the rest of the suite. Plus, added bonus: you get some solid on-tribe support.

    I can't speak to the viability of going Vampire tribal with the theme OP is wanting

    BUT I do support the inclusion of Black to the colors - there are so many options in black that compliment dealing damage/lifeloss outside of combat

    Archfiend of Despair
    Wound Reflection
    Final Punishment
    Exquisite Blood
    Kaervek the Merciless
    You could even dabble with Repercussion for shenanigans with cards like Pyrohemia or Pestilence or Chandra's Ignition

    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Core 2020 Preview Schedule
    Quote from cyberium_neo »
    Quote from Galspanic »
    Quote from cyberium_neo »
    Such a rapid preview, wouldn’t people get overloaded by cards? I personally prefer a slower preview so I could digest.
    You don’t already feel completely overloaded with new cards?! With War of the Spark, Modern Horizons, M2020, and C19 all coming out at basically the same time it feels like giving us a whole week is slow.

    Precisely why I feel the need to slow down a bit. As an EDH player who could use cards from all sets, there’s no resting/brewing time between War, Modern Horizon and Core 2020.

    WoTC's product releases are so close together - we may as well all be paying monthly subscriptions! The effect is the equivalent
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  • posted a message on Should magic make basic Dual lands common and easily obtainable?
    Quote from Arkhaic »
    Tournament magic is expensive, fine. If you want to restrict people who play in tournaments to those with deep pockets instead of skill, that's fine, keep your hollow pay-to-win tournaments.

    But casual magic doesn't have to be expensive, and as others have stated many casual players turn to proxies. So why doesn't WotC bank on that, and release these desired cards in a non-tournament legal gold bordered form? They've done it before. Perhaps these could be slotted into the advertisement card slot, or with an advertisement card back?

    I really like this idea and they are so close to making it happen. It could also be a lesser selling point for packs. These new Modern Horizons Art Cards are practically proxies themselves. Instead turn them into Gold/Silver Bordered reprints of past powerful cards. I'm not sure if it could skirt the Reserved List but wouldn't it be cool to look for a chase Black Lotus again? Gold or Silver bordered with modern fronts and either blank or an advertisement on the back. People would love to collect them and they would still probably be worth money on the secondary market. I'm not going to pay 50K for a Black Lotus but I might pay up to 5 bucks for a new proxy. Do that for the Dual Lands, Power Nine, whatever. Just a thought.

    No no no, we should not be suggesting ways for WoTC to guarantee that the gold bordered cards be locked out from ever becoming tournament legal.

    I'm going to quote myself from over a year ago on this very subject, to save myself the time of re-typing my thoughts for why we should be suggesting WoTC UNBAN the gold bordered cards for tourney play:

    Quote from Shea_0 »
    I've posted a few times on these forums in favor of such an action as unbanning GB cards. I'm in favor of an unban because this is literally the only option to increase the exchange of hands or increase new ownership of reserve list cards.

    I'd suggest people give a thought to what else could be done to increase availability of tournament legal reserved list cards. Unfortunately any other options I'm aware of require a reprint. We all know WOTC will not do reprints so.......this is the only option I see.

    Many people I've debated on this subject take the position that this is only reasonable if everyone can afford the cards and that affordability is only possible with reprints (to provide necessary quantities to drop prices). They argue that if there's not enough reprints to make the RL cards affordable to all, then there's no point at all. I think this line if thought is flawed.

    I would suggest that we take a moment to accept, finally, that reprints are not an option for WOTC. The best alternative as players that we can get in hindsight is an unbanning. I see this as the only means of increasing how many people own these cards and can use them for legal tournament gameplay.

    We have to take the history of these cards into consideration though and accept that not everyone is still going to be able to afford them if unbanned, and that's ok. We can't be so greedy as to argue for nothing instead of something, and trust me -something is absolutely better than nothing in this case.

    and another quote, for the sake of opposing argument of "availability" - note this is from a locked thread so I have to copy/paste instead of directly quoting this text. quote links are removed in locked threads.

    " Quote from Goblin Death DJ »

    Quote from Shea_0 »

    Quote from Goblin Death DJ »
    Unbanning gold border cards is not going to lower the price of anything. Use common sense.

    If unbanning gold borders didn't lower the prices of the originals then what's the problem? You might not want to buy a $500 CE black lotus that would be tourney legal but a hell of a lot of people certainly would and I bet they'd even pay $2k a week later as the prices go up.

    If you aren't trying to lower the secondary market price, what's the point of making these already overpriced gold-bordered cards tournament legal?

    Quote from Shea_0 »

    We should acknowledge that "overpriced" is a relative term. We can't get hung up on whether an unbanned card falls into every person's budget...especially when it comes to the cards on the reserved list or power 9. Prices in regards to reserve list cards will behave differently than our typical card because of the fact that reserve list cards can't be reprinted. All we can do for these reserve list cards is increase availability.

    The beauty of an unban is that the reprint policy is subverted. We understand this though, we've talked that subject to death. We also know that WOTC will not reprint.

    We shouldn't worry so much about lowering the secondary market price with reseved list cards because that is requesting the impossible, that requires reprints. Reprinting isn't a realisic thing to expect.

    What is realistic is increasing fluidity, increasing the exchange of ownership of reserve list cards. Unbanning can accomplish this.

    Prices would have to adjust in the first few days and weeks for sure but that's about the best "price drop" we're going to get.

    TLDR: Wo no longer use silver and gold border markings to determine tournament legality on cards. This was the method of the early 90's and has since become outdated in such a way that the original intent has since been lost and is now no longer associated with these borders due to multiple products existing and precedence set by newer products and formats than what was floating around in '94. We should be arguing for the unbanning of gold bordered cards from tournament play because we have card sleeves now that render the entire point of colored borders' signification as irrelevant. The limitations of the early 90's, where penny sleeves were as good as it got should no longer be relevant in ANY context to us determining tournament legality in the year 2019 and beyond. The existence of opaque card sleeves in themselves rendered gold/silver bordering as a pointless mode of demarcation for tournament legality.

    Edit: Additionally, when WoTC released the loathsome Invocations in the Amonkhet block they had gold borders on them. WoTC's own antiquated border-color association with tournament legality got in their own way in this instance and they updated their rules language to specifically allow the Invocations to be tournament legal - despite the gold borders. So here we have a modern example of WoTC themselves having made a product with no care for the implications of border color, until only afterwards when people reminded them of this nuanced conflict of a bygone era. What was the argument people made for the Invocations? Why did they get special consideration? Because the solution - that we have sleeves nowadays that make the border color irrelevant - is so ubiquitous that it was common sense that won the argument here. Common sense should extend to all gold bordered cards.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Alpine Guide
    Such a weird card for Red! I like it!

    Any good ways to abuse the last ability?

    Tech for Modern Boros snow-matters with On Thin Ice and Chained to the Rocks? Boros isn't matching the snow-matters colors in Modern Horizons however... I have no idea what will make this guy good

    EDIT: Maybe find a way to flicker this fella + Titania, Protector of Argoth + some other jank for a RGW toolbox deck?

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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