I took this list -1 vapor snag +1 dispel to a local win a goyf event and did indeed win the goyf. I played against two u/w eldrazi, abzan company, goblins, merfolk, and a budget mono green stompy deck. I lost one round vs. Eldrazi and won the rest.
Best card all day was Clout. Not even close. It was just gas every time I drew it. In the finals I put it on a Delver two games and just smashed face behind a hand of removal while he was sitting on bolts that couldn't kill it. Against merfolk it made a stormchaser mage take over the match, and against eldrazi it let me block everything he could put down.
Jori En also took over two seperate games, providing tons of gas & ground blocking.
I did end up boarding out stormchaser + clout against a couple decks for pyromancers + snags, but all in all it performed extremely well, with a ton of play in every scenario. Super pleased with the performance + smooth play.
I did find kolaghans command to be a little lackluster compared to electrolyze, and do wish i had a second Tasigur, though. I also wonder if thoughtseize would be better than the remands, but it's too small of a sample size to tell.
I guess i just don't see how more counters with more prowess creatures makes for more synergy. I don't really like how your idea to improve my build is to play a completely different deck.
I honestly don't see how cutting black completely for inferior removal & playing more prowess creatures with more countermagic could possibly be better. All for blood moon in the board? I don't find that to make much sense.
The main reason I'm at Grixis and not straight u/r is the lack of removal without a third color. Im addition, the inquisition / thoughtseize are great at protecting the guys to clout up.
I'm not saying this is perfect by any means, and perhaps vapor snag is a bit off here, but i won't exactly know quite yet.
I do disagree on clout needing stormchaser or jori en for clout to be strong. Putting it on delver and vclique is, again, much better than you seem to think.
The improved matchups are any that go eveb remotely long. Jori En trigger just 1-2 times can easily be enough by itself. It's a must answer or lose card for most decks simply due to being able to out-gas everything else.
I don't see why you're so opposed to putting clout on Delver. A 4/3 shroud flying on turn 2-3 is much better than a 3/2 flying on turn 2-3.
I can get behind not playing snag and opting for pierce/snare or something along those lines, but i think you're being hasty and narrow-minded in saying clout can only go on stormchaser or jori en to be strong
It's just playing a more proactive gameplan - stormchaser mage and jori en with clout on them are basically unkillable against the majority of the field, and in addition to just crapping all over affinity, stormchaser mage is nearly unboltable, and naturally does a lot of work with bolts and the like. Inquisition is there to clear the way for clout, trigger prowess, and draw cards.
I play terminate and vapor snag at the moment because the top decks are affinity, abzan company, and eldrazi. Especially in my local meta, but also at a tournament level, and packing the extra creature hate is just big. With the majority of the clock being in the air, vapor snag is a lot like remand a lot of the time.
Clout is also not "only good in very few cases". It makes stormchaser a 3/5 naturally, shrouds all of the fliers, and makes a jori en a 4/5, which in addition to just being very large, keeps it around to draw more gas. Delver being a 4/3 shroud is also a lot more relevant than you seem to be considering.
I will freely admit that there certainly are matchups where i board out jori en/clout, but they are less frequent than the ones where those cards truly shine.
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Rattlechains
3 Geist of Saint Traft
1 Vendilion Clique
4 Serum Visions
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Path to Exile
3 Remand
2 Spell Snare
2 Vapor Snag
1 Spell Pierce
1 Mana Leak
3 Flooded Strand
3 Steam Vents
2 Island
2 Seachrome Coast
1 Arid Mesa
1 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Hallowed Fountain
This is what I've been playing - Rattlechains into Geist is sweetness.
Best card all day was Clout. Not even close. It was just gas every time I drew it. In the finals I put it on a Delver two games and just smashed face behind a hand of removal while he was sitting on bolts that couldn't kill it. Against merfolk it made a stormchaser mage take over the match, and against eldrazi it let me block everything he could put down.
Jori En also took over two seperate games, providing tons of gas & ground blocking.
I did end up boarding out stormchaser + clout against a couple decks for pyromancers + snags, but all in all it performed extremely well, with a ton of play in every scenario. Super pleased with the performance + smooth play.
I did find kolaghans command to be a little lackluster compared to electrolyze, and do wish i had a second Tasigur, though. I also wonder if thoughtseize would be better than the remands, but it's too small of a sample size to tell.
I'm not saying this is perfect by any means, and perhaps vapor snag is a bit off here, but i won't exactly know quite yet.
I do disagree on clout needing stormchaser or jori en for clout to be strong. Putting it on delver and vclique is, again, much better than you seem to think.
The improved matchups are any that go eveb remotely long. Jori En trigger just 1-2 times can easily be enough by itself. It's a must answer or lose card for most decks simply due to being able to out-gas everything else.
I don't see why you're so opposed to putting clout on Delver. A 4/3 shroud flying on turn 2-3 is much better than a 3/2 flying on turn 2-3.
I can get behind not playing snag and opting for pierce/snare or something along those lines, but i think you're being hasty and narrow-minded in saying clout can only go on stormchaser or jori en to be strong
I play terminate and vapor snag at the moment because the top decks are affinity, abzan company, and eldrazi. Especially in my local meta, but also at a tournament level, and packing the extra creature hate is just big. With the majority of the clock being in the air, vapor snag is a lot like remand a lot of the time.
Clout is also not "only good in very few cases". It makes stormchaser a 3/5 naturally, shrouds all of the fliers, and makes a jori en a 4/5, which in addition to just being very large, keeps it around to draw more gas. Delver being a 4/3 shroud is also a lot more relevant than you seem to be considering.
I will freely admit that there certainly are matchups where i board out jori en/clout, but they are less frequent than the ones where those cards truly shine.
1 Blood Crypt
2 Bloodstained Mire
1 Darkslick Shores
2 Island
1 Mountain
2 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Steam Vents
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Swamp
2 Watery Grave
// Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
3 Snapcaster Mage
4 Stormchaser Mage
1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
1 Vendilion Clique
2 Jori En, Ruin Diver
3 Gitaxian Probe
1 Kolaghan's Command
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Mana Leak
3 Remand
4 Serum Visions
3 Terminate
2 Clout of the Dominus
2 Vapor Snag
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Murderous Cut
2 Dispel
2 Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 Izzet Staticaster
1 Terminate
3 Thoughtseize
1 Kolaghan's Command
2 Spell Snare
1 Spell Pierce
2 Forked Bolt