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  • posted a message on This or That discussion.
    Mob Justice

    well, I was hoping for a constructive debate on the cards Smile not just this card is better, but more info on what makes each card worth running and when...
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Black 4 Drops
    For this weeks discussion, I am proposing Black 4 Drops.
    I currently run the following:
    Braids, Cabal Minion
    Ravenous Chupacabra

    Of course, we have a new goody being printed in Rankle, Master of Pranks.
    I am excited to have a 4 mana beater that can play well in a variety of decks.
    There has been some discussion on what to cut for Rankle with some thoughts on Skinrender.
    How does everyone else feel about there 4 drops?
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on [CUBE][ELD] Robber of the Rich
    I like Dire Fleet Daredevil a lot more as well (at least theoretically). Being able to cast your opponents removal spell, time walk, or some other card is a lot better than the hoops this guy has to jump through. I do like the fact this card has haste. Red needs more 2 drops, but it seems in the past couple years, they print them, but most of them like this card don't really stick out from the pack. Kari Zev was a nice addition though
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on This or That discussion.
    That's the discussion I am hoping to have Smile
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  • posted a message on This or That discussion.
    Of those choices, I would cut Lightning Strike. I would also ask myself if at 360 if I need 3 rabblemaster varients and possibly cut Hanweir Garrison

    Psychatog vs Hostage Taker
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  • posted a message on [ELD][CUBE] - Bonecrusher Giant
    Quote from TorontoJock »
    Anything that gives Cube designers flexibility is a good thing IMHO. Something like Murderous Rider can safely slip into a spell slot but Bonecrusher Giant might be more likely to take a creature spot since it's that half that makes the card playable. There's no "right" answer but like I said, the flexibility is nice.

    I was thinking that other red burn spells are much more similar to this card than any of the other 3 drop creatures whereas most of the burn spells are much more interchangable, sure some are better than others, but most of the decks playing burn spells usually jam as many as they can, whereas the creatures each play a more distinct role. Thus changing this out for a burn spell feels like a better fit for me since losing one burn spell for this won't be missed as much.
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  • posted a message on [ELD][CUBE] Stonecoil Serpant
    Actually I just realized that you can't target him with Tezzeret... Still, I don't think every card needs to be flashy, but cubes do need some good filler cards to help smooth decks out. I am thinking a good cut for this might be hangarback walker. I think the two cards might be pretty close in power level (obviously play different roles). Hangerback walker is good, but it slows games down quite a bit, and I think from a good design perspective, playing cards that let you win games are better than cards that are designed so you don't lose.
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  • posted a message on [ELD][CUBE] Stonecoil Serpant
    LOL, I was thinking worldly tutor, not the Zenith. OOPS Smile
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  • posted a message on [ELD][CUBE] - Bonecrusher Giant

    Card Seems like a great card. Red 3's are pretty packed, but I think I will upgrade Magmajet to this, I think the 4/3 creature is better than Scry 2,
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  • posted a message on [ELD][CUBE] Stonecoil Serpant
    Stonecoil Serpent

    Stonecoil Serpent X

    Artifact Creature - Snake

    Trample - bolded because I think I read this like 3 times before it clicked Smile
    Protection from Multicolor

    Stonecoil Serpent enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.


    I think it looks decent at first glance, but might be a lot better than it actually looks.

    • Can be perfect fodder for the tinker deck
    • It's a Great ramp target, and can be played anywhere along the curve if your trying to make it to 6 mana, but area fealing pressure before you get there, slam this down as a 4/4 or 5/5 to buy yourself some time.
    • Fetchable with Trinket Mage, Imperial Recruiter, Recruiter of the Guard, Enlightened Tutor, Green Sun's Zenith, Demonic Tutor so not only is it castable in every color, but every color has cards that can fetch it if needed.
    • it gets passed the removal in the guild section, and can be played at 4 mana to get by most of the burn spells,
    • can be cast for 5 to either play around wildfire, or can slot right into that deck if needed.
    • In the artifact deck, it combos really nicely with Metalworker, and casting Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas to dig and find this is a pretty decent play considering you can play it the next turn and turn it into a 10/10
    • Did I mention that it has trample?

    Not trying to oversell it or anything, because obviously, the card has weaknesses, still dies to a lot of removal and cards like abrade
    But I think this should find a spot if a lot of cubes,
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on This or That discussion.
    I have really liked Nightpack Ambusher as well. I am thinking about adding a little more flash to my green section in my next update as well which should make him a little better, + I am thinking of adding Mystic Snake back in, and Wildborn Preserver will be another way to make more of a flash deck work. Mystic Snake felt a little outclassed recently, but I think having the option of multiple different flash creatures makes it quite a bit more difficult to play around, along with a variety of other 4 mana green creatures I am thinking to run along with it include Thrun, the Last Troll, Questing Beast, Voracious Hydra, and Hexdrinker. The 4 drop spot will be difficult to play around. I know traditional wisdom has preached that green midrange can often not keep up in really powerful environments, but I am hoping all these new additions will make the deck more viable.
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  • posted a message on [ELD][CUBE] Gadwick, the Wizened
    Quote from steve_man »
    This not triggering on any instant / sorcery really hurts since a good chunk of blue's instants are counters.

    Am i misreading what you are saying? this does trigger off all the counter spells in blue, but it also triggers off the creatures and enchantments as well.
    I don't think this is necessarily a slam dunk, but I don't think the card is bad at all. I can see some mid-sized cubes that want to give the opposition deck a little more love running this.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on [ELD] {CUBE} Murderous Rider
    I think this is a slam dunk for 360 cubes. I think this card power-wise is 6's compared to Hero's Downfall, except this card, is way more interesting and therefore if those are my choices, I would pick this in terms of cube design. I understand there will be times where a deck would rather have the consistency of heroes downfall, but this card seems like it will make games more fun, and there may be times the creature side of this is just as important as the life loss.
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  • posted a message on Green 4 drops.

    I am starting this thread, in hopes of having a good discussion about Green 4 drops. (seems fitting since Questing Beast was just spoiled.
    I am hoping to start a thread discussion like this 1 per week and work my way through Various groups of cards. For example, one week it might be Green 4 drops, and next week it could be a guild discussion, a thread about white removal, or blue counterspells for example. The This or That thread while great, sometimes lacks the inability to focus on specific groups of cards that can be run together either in the same slot, and it is hard to go back and analyze information, but is a great way to get feedback from others about which cards to run. I want to have one of these per weeks to allow for more thoughtful analysis, and I don't want to burn myself out trying to create a new thread each week.
    Basically this can be thought of as the Random Cube Card of the day but from a more big-picture perspective. I know there is a previous Green 4 drops thread found here, and if they need to be merged that is fine, but I wanted to create a new thread so this introduction post does not get lost in the middle of the thread. Not all colors have had threads to discuss the different sections of each color as well, and Ideally, it would be nice if this discussion is popular enough, we can get them grouped together in a subthread to make them easy to find later.

    So onto This weeks discussion. What does everyone think of Green 4 drops these days.

    My current section is testing out (reference size cube =411 right now)
    Nightpack Ambusher,
    Oracle of Mul Daya,
    Thrun, the last Troll,
    Voracious Hydra
    With the soon to be printed Questing Beast, this may be the card that is needed to really turn Green 4 drops from a reactive support role into a more aggressive slant. Oracle can still play a role in the more Green ramp decks, and Voracious Hydra can fit into more midrange decks or large ramp decks, Thrun has always been good to do his resilient nature, and Running Night pack Ambusher and Questing Beast can give 2 different threats that can make the deck get some good damage in.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
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