I think this deck born to combat 4C and play around hate cards.
Oko alone destroy the Thopeter combo, the deck plays with good counters like a mid-range deck and do not care about stony silence, plague engineer, revoker, abrade .. .(the list goes on). Seens like ppl think this simic urza is more consistente and more combo independent.
Not gonna lie ... i'n wiht a little fear of this ban
FYI ... i'n playing a list with 2 Tefei and 2 Oko MD, and i'n very happy with it, Oko is very good to lay around Stony silence and "kill"keys creatures
i'n on Teferi, Time Raveler a kind a time, and he saves me a lot of time and games (prevent urza get removed). Bouncing stony silence or problematic hates.
I'm in doubt if Oko have any chance to play and get any copy in pre-sale to pay at last cheaper. 2 Emry and 1 wishclaw i guaranteed
I really like Emry. While the ETB on her is not as good as goblin, being able to cast for U on turn 2 (like after an astrolabe and witching well) is really nice. And the ceiling for her ETB is even higher than engineer, so occasionally she will bin you a sword and something else useful. She plays well with bauble (no mana to get a card/turn), and unlike engineer, she can let you recur X cost things like explosives and chalice, and can recur stuff greater than CMC 3, although that is of questionable utility with our current builds. Definitely a 1-2 of in every build going forward, given her casting cost and lack of mana on her activated.
Wishclaw is a little silly, and hard to evaluate. I think it's probably a 1-of for us, but will get boarded out a LOT. Obviously makes whir more valuable, and random silver bullet type things. Talisman plays nicely with Karn, the Great Creator (ugh, that card), too. I've been testing Karn out as a 1-of maindeck walker without lattice, and he's OK as a must-answer threat.
As always, before the entire set is even released, posting a hypthetical list with the new tasty spoilers:
1. you don't use Galvanic in main? The first time I saw him, I wasn't totally convinced, but is too good have acess to some kind of answer in main, its kill Liliana and baby karn for example.
2. i cut all fast lands and i'n happy without this.
yees, i definitely think Wishclaw Talisman is 1 or 2off auto include to find the last piece we need. But i think we dont have time to bounce with Teferi cause when it resolve opp gains control of talisman, but can sac in the stack. For now we got good pieces that can make the deck more consistent:
Witching well
Emry, Lurker of the Loch
Wishclaw Talisman
Now, if we find the right slot is the "problem" but i'n in hype
And know, you guys think this unban will make deck get another take?
I think artifact hate you be in all part, replacing hate grave, cause batterskull and swords.
In first view, o think to try run a full set of Pyrite Spellbomb to help kill SFM (and it can be a draw and help whir in worst scenario), and i see spellskite to be good again to protect combo.
I see some list with urza + SFM, but not totally sold on this yet.
PS.: i dont remember to see a discussion on this (probably have a discussion), but Tribute Mage still slow?
You guys sideout Ensnaring Bridge against jund too? I dont agree if that part. I think bridge gain us much time. Not fan to sideout goblin too, if get removed, one less to our combo piece.
Against UW, is not worth mox to try be fast and/or make 2 threads in a turn? (UW is a match that I doubt the most part of time).
Get Assassin's Trophy, Kolaghan's Command, Maelstrom Pulse and discards, side Ancient Grudge. This scarys me. Maybe was just a unlucky game for me.
I use Sai in the MB anyway. Well, will try again and see. tks.
Someone can make a little sideboarding guide/tips against the todays meta decks? Sometimes i feel little lost now in the combo build, in the prison build was more easy.
Its hard to argument if bolt is better then galvanic, i just don't have galvanic and in that store was out of stock to buy too.
But galvanic and wear/tear i want to try in.
I like skite and think he is so usefull to protect our pieces
Round 1 Esper Obzedat (2-1)
Round 2 UR Phoenix (2-0)
Round 3 RG LD (Ponza) (2-0) Played the goblin on t2, but lost my swords by Surgical Extraction, but Sai wins me the game
Round 4 Brun (2-1) get back to the game after go 1 life, spellskite saves me this game a lot of times
Round 5 Jund (0-2) I guess this match was to be good for thopter/foundry, but he drew better and always had Decay and Ooze to slow me down.
Round 6 UW Control (1-1) I dont think this match is good for us as you guys sad, but maybe is why i hate control? hahah, but again, he always had response for my plays.
Oko alone destroy the Thopeter combo, the deck plays with good counters like a mid-range deck and do not care about stony silence, plague engineer, revoker, abrade .. .(the list goes on). Seens like ppl think this simic urza is more consistente and more combo independent.
This is my thougth.
FYI ... i'n playing a list with 2 Tefei and 2 Oko MD, and i'n very happy with it, Oko is very good to lay around Stony silence and "kill"keys creatures
I'm in doubt if Oko have any chance to play and get any copy in pre-sale to pay at last cheaper. 2 Emry and 1 wishclaw i guaranteed
You are using big teff? and the goblin?
some questions:
1. you don't use Galvanic in main? The first time I saw him, I wasn't totally convinced, but is too good have acess to some kind of answer in main, its kill Liliana and baby karn for example.
2. i cut all fast lands and i'n happy without this.
Witching well
Emry, Lurker of the Loch
Wishclaw Talisman
Now, if we find the right slot is the "problem" but i'n in hype
2U
Legendary Creature - Merfolk Wizard
This spell casts 1 less to cast for each artifact you control.
When Emry, Lurker of the Loch enters the battlefield, put the top four cards of your library into your graveyard.
T: Choose target artifact card in your graveyard. You may cast that card this turn.
- we got new friend?
I think artifact hate you be in all part, replacing hate grave, cause batterskull and swords.
In first view, o think to try run a full set of Pyrite Spellbomb to help kill SFM (and it can be a draw and help whir in worst scenario), and i see spellskite to be good again to protect combo.
I see some list with urza + SFM, but not totally sold on this yet.
PS.: i dont remember to see a discussion on this (probably have a discussion), but Tribute Mage still slow?
Against UW, is not worth mox to try be fast and/or make 2 threads in a turn? (UW is a match that I doubt the most part of time).
I use Sai in the MB anyway. Well, will try again and see. tks.
Someone can make a little sideboarding guide/tips against the todays meta decks? Sometimes i feel little lost now in the combo build, in the prison build was more easy.
I start to fimd a little hard match this time, many discards and removes. Someone are facing mor jund then before?
This matchs make me think to bring back welding jar back
At least, spells we can active normally.
Its hard to argument if bolt is better then galvanic, i just don't have galvanic and in that store was out of stock to buy too.
But galvanic and wear/tear i want to try in.
I like skite and think he is so usefull to protect our pieces
I took 5ºth in a 42 players FNM last week
3x Sai, Master Thopterist
3x Goblin Engineer
1x SpellSkite
4x Mox Opal
4x Arcum's Astrolabe
4x Mishra's Bauble
2x Ichor Wellspring
1x Pyrite Spellbomb
1x Chromatic Star
1x Pithing Needle
1x Ensnaring Bridge
1x Grafdigger's Cage
3x Thopter Foundry
3x Whir of Invention
1x Ghirapur Æther Grid
5x Snow-Covered Island
2x Snow-Covered Swamp
1x Snow-Covered Mountain
1x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Inventor's Fair
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Steam Vents
2x Spirebluff Canal
4x Polluted Delta
3x Flooded Strand
3x Lightning Bolt
3x Path to Exile
2x Dead of Winter
2x Echoing Truth
1x Pithing Needle
1x Engineered Explosives
1x Witchbane Orb
1x Tormod's Crypt
1x Plague Engeneer
Round 1 Esper Obzedat (2-1)
Round 2 UR Phoenix (2-0)
Round 3 RG LD (Ponza) (2-0) Played the goblin on t2, but lost my swords by Surgical Extraction, but Sai wins me the game
Round 4 Brun (2-1) get back to the game after go 1 life, spellskite saves me this game a lot of times
Round 5 Jund (0-2) I guess this match was to be good for thopter/foundry, but he drew better and always had Decay and Ooze to slow me down.
Round 6 UW Control (1-1) I dont think this match is good for us as you guys sad, but maybe is why i hate control? hahah, but again, he always had response for my plays.