Frankly, I am not a fan of a 1BB non-creature spell with the EnT Mana base (or for anything else, really: it's the reason I decided to go mono white). That said, she grinds very well and I think I have seen a few lists running her on mtggoldfish.
The Lili I think might be a better fit is Liliana, Heretical Healer. As a creature, she can be vialed in, especially in response to a kill spell or combat where one of your creatures dies, and can be a value engine in a grindier game.
I think with 4 Caves of Koilos, 2 Shambling Vent and 2 Swamps in it, it could work. Or am I completely wrong here? ^^
I think the big eldrazi are THE payoff of playing with such a bad mana base... I would never run BW If It weren't for the backup push, Bob and tidehollow/kitesail offer during the First turns before you Land TKS and RS. that Said, baby Liliana seems Nice against burn also...
I think Vial, Ghost Quarters and Paths give you some ways to get around Blood Moon. It's still an annoying card to play against for sure, but I wouldn't classify it as stone cold beater. Still figuring out the correct number of basics for this. I like 2 Plains and a Wastes, but sometimes I miss the swamp, mainly to GQ myself to activate Shambling Vent
cut a courtyard for the swamp if you really wants the wastes. I play with 0 courtyards and 3 godless and am fine with it. 20 lands
Last two tournaments lost all matches, although were about to win when they topdecked a kill. Sad but I will tweak my sideboard to better answer my metagame. Tomorrow I will switch from smashers to Herders and let you know how it goes.
Topdeck's happen. That is one of the main problems with discard spells when compared to counter-magic --- you cannot stop a top-deck. With all the affinity, merfolk, junk running around your meta game you might want to up the sweepers to 2. Maybe try an engineered explosives if you have it. Or just put in an additional damnation, wrath of god, or day of judgment.
You could put a sweeper mainboard to have better game 1 matchups. I wouldn't recommend this for an unknown meta though.
I don't know if sweepers are the thing I am missing. I am more inclined to drop something for another fatal push (I play with a wrath, an expertise and two ratchet bombs already at SB, and 4/1/1 split on path, push, anguished).
Today I played the sculler/herder and LOVED it! Herder is not as explosive as smasher, but while smashers give opponents hand trouble, herder gives then battlefield trouble and is hard to deal with his mess. This is really interesting, as it changes the deck lines of play (although I played with 3 Herders and a single smasher, which won me a game against Naya zoo). Scullers however are really, really strong, and even if they get killed, they already generated value (I like to take strong cards, leaving then with removal in hand, so they spend the removal on him). Got a draw with valakut after surgical on valakut and won against burn to 3-0-1. Will keep the Herders for a while and see where it goes!
I like Blight Herder myself (as 2x-of SB card for midrange match-ups) but I'd never replace Reality Smasher with it as it is just a much better creature and a legitimate closer for the deck.
Hi Dennis, I like the idea of running Elspeth, Knight-errant mainboard (don't have access to any of the Sorins yet) Is she legitimately good in this deck though? Suppose I'll have to find out tonight I also what to try Blight Herder SB but what would we sb out for it in the midrange games? Sorry if these are dumb questions, I'm a complete novice with this deck.
Hi etcherik! I am glad also to see new BW Eldrazi players around. This deck is a blast!
My best suggestion to you is to read the last 20 or so pages of discussion. There is soooo much useful Info, different builds and angles of attacks that choosing your playstile will be easy after that. This deck is not easy to pilot, you have many many choices to make, from which land to lay down turn 1, and what you are expecting to play three turns ahead to all the discards+removals decisions (do I take this kalithas now or take the k-command and hope to draw a path/push/unmaking to deal with him?). You need to study well your meta and each possibility of what the deck can do.
Also, I sincerely suggests you go after Marsh flats. They are what makes the deck playable. Polluted deltas or windswept Heath's are not enough.
Regarding your sideboard, I would cut stony to 2, extractions to 1 and the duress. Pithing needle is a must, and I like to play a couple fulminator mages to have an out to valakut/tron. Yahenni expertise is also a good card, and I like to play a 1/1 split of expertise and wrath.
And cut the eternal scourge... It will be a dead card 90% of time, as the modern meta today will rarely let you attack with it.
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I think the big eldrazi are THE payoff of playing with such a bad mana base... I would never run BW If It weren't for the backup push, Bob and tidehollow/kitesail offer during the First turns before you Land TKS and RS. that Said, baby Liliana seems Nice against burn also...
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I don't know if sweepers are the thing I am missing. I am more inclined to drop something for another fatal push (I play with a wrath, an expertise and two ratchet bombs already at SB, and 4/1/1 split on path, push, anguished).
Today I played the sculler/herder and LOVED it! Herder is not as explosive as smasher, but while smashers give opponents hand trouble, herder gives then battlefield trouble and is hard to deal with his mess. This is really interesting, as it changes the deck lines of play (although I played with 3 Herders and a single smasher, which won me a game against Naya zoo). Scullers however are really, really strong, and even if they get killed, they already generated value (I like to take strong cards, leaving then with removal in hand, so they spend the removal on him). Got a draw with valakut after surgical on valakut and won against burn to 3-0-1. Will keep the Herders for a while and see where it goes!
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Hi etcherik! I am glad also to see new BW Eldrazi players around. This deck is a blast!
My best suggestion to you is to read the last 20 or so pages of discussion. There is soooo much useful Info, different builds and angles of attacks that choosing your playstile will be easy after that. This deck is not easy to pilot, you have many many choices to make, from which land to lay down turn 1, and what you are expecting to play three turns ahead to all the discards+removals decisions (do I take this kalithas now or take the k-command and hope to draw a path/push/unmaking to deal with him?). You need to study well your meta and each possibility of what the deck can do.
Also, I sincerely suggests you go after Marsh flats. They are what makes the deck playable. Polluted deltas or windswept Heath's are not enough.
Regarding your sideboard, I would cut stony to 2, extractions to 1 and the duress. Pithing needle is a must, and I like to play a couple fulminator mages to have an out to valakut/tron. Yahenni expertise is also a good card, and I like to play a 1/1 split of expertise and wrath.
And cut the eternal scourge... It will be a dead card 90% of time, as the modern meta today will rarely let you attack with it.
Anyway, have fun with the orzhov aliens!
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