I've got GP Toronto this weekend so I'm going to give it a spin. The mutavaults are the only cards I don't own. I wonder how this deck would play out with ghost quarter instead of the vaults. I don't really understand the surgical in the deck without GQ's as there's not many times I'd bring in surgical where I wasn't wanting to target lands. Can anyone think of what matchups surgical are coming in against? I'm guessing fulminator comes in on those same matchups but seems kind of weak without the GQ's but would love to hear why mutavault is overall a better card in the deck as obviously the lists that have done well have 4 mutavaults. for reference here is the decklist
Did anyone take notice that a BW eldrazi processor list went 8-2 at the pro tour? I believe it's the identical list to the one that took down Grand Prix Kobe last year.
If anyone is game, I would be interested to hear quantitative figures about mulls taken or T2-uncastable Scullers. How often does that Sculler come out T3 or later, off-curve? How often odes it make an otherwise-keepable hand get thrown back for a second chance?
Psyched for the new land, I gotta admit.
I want 4x of the new fastland.
Purely anecdotal, I have 14 w/b sources in my build, 4x Sculler. I land sculler on curve I'd say 2/3 times I see him in my opener. I'd love to see some hard numbers on how often other people are landing Tidehollow on curve.
I'm not 100% sold on these fast lands yet for this deck. Perhaps others feel the same way I'm not sure our deck benefits from them that much.
The only tapped lands we play with now are the shambling vents and to add these fast lands (not sure what we would cut for them) wouldn't we increase the chance of being stuck on turn 4 unable to cast thought knot, smasher/herder at times? I can understand budget concerns on marsh flats but perhaps more experienced players can weigh in.
Beatox, those changes sound good. I'd prefer the third Strangler over the 3rd Displacer, and the first Timely over the 3rd Blessed Alliance. I just put an Alliance in my Board I'm excited to try it out. It has such great utiliy against Burn, Infect, Death's Shadow, Boggles and even Scapeshift (Though Rest is better there). Nothing feels better than "take 18?" "Sure gain some life and live". Feed the clan does something similar out of Jund.
Deadmedix, I think that Lili/Displacer swap is fine, it's one I almost made right before the open. The Lili is definitely better, but it's close. And I stand by the full 4 Vents, especially because I usually want all of my fetches to get basics. But that swap should be fairly inconsequential, as would the IOK/Sieze. It's been a busy week so I've yet to try the Dec in Stone, but its a pretty obvious inclusion that I'm eager to test in the Dismember slot as you mentioned. Good luck at your next modern event!
I'm going to stick very closely to RidetheIguana decklist. I know some people are very high on smasher but feel like smasher is definitely what the bant eldrazi list wants to do and do it better then we can.
The only changes im making to the list will be to replace Liliana with 1 displacer. It's only because of budget that I'm making this swap. I also see displacer as more of a 6 drop than anything else but could come in handy if you need to be on a more aggressive plan and just run it out early. i like the 3/2 split on IoC Seize but that might be more of a metagame call. Also will try the declaration of stone over the dismember which was something that RidetheIduana wanted to do anyways which I believe might turn out to be a great choice. Lastly I'm cutting 1 vents for 1 shrine. this could be wrong but I'd like to have the ability to search a dual if I have a shrine in play or in hand already.
The fact that he came 9th at a large modern open is no joke and it was only tiebreakers that kept him out of top 8. Wish we could have seen coverage on this deck but I also like how this deck is under the radar as well. I love to play the decks that most do not. If this deck exploded in popularity it becomes less my style.
very interested to see how people do with this deck moving forward I for one and looking forward to the next modern game at my local store.
Congrats on the great finish. I really enjoy the archetype and think your list looks great. I read your write up on another forum and I appreciate that you take the time to give great feedback.
I was wondering moving forward what you plan to change about the deck. I was curious if theres any merit to playing a card like leyline of the void over relic. i see how relic is great at adding value but i know the modern master gurus say leyline is an upgrade in every way. i suppose this deck the relics are better but i wonder if it could keep up to a deck like dredge which seems like a deck thats here to stay and might just be faster then what relics can provide. i suppose collective brutality would get a little better if you played leylines as reduntant copies naturally are much worse then relics and you can just cash them in for effects off brutality.
i loved the inclusion of scullers and removing the smashers. did you find it difficult to cast scullers on time? did you feel 3 was the right number?
my last question is - Since the deck is more crotrolling compared to past lists do you think bitterblossoms fits the gameplan at all? It seems like a good turn 2 play for this deck. I also really like the idea of testing out whispers of emrakul and dip into delirium if bitterblossoms is good. the collective brutality could be crazy. far fetched but I enjoy the discussions.
https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/eldrazi-hatebears-decklist-by-rajko-nedic-727123
I'm not 100% sold on these fast lands yet for this deck. Perhaps others feel the same way I'm not sure our deck benefits from them that much.
The only tapped lands we play with now are the shambling vents and to add these fast lands (not sure what we would cut for them) wouldn't we increase the chance of being stuck on turn 4 unable to cast thought knot, smasher/herder at times? I can understand budget concerns on marsh flats but perhaps more experienced players can weigh in.
Awesome ty again for your feedback!!
The only changes im making to the list will be to replace Liliana with 1 displacer. It's only because of budget that I'm making this swap. I also see displacer as more of a 6 drop than anything else but could come in handy if you need to be on a more aggressive plan and just run it out early. i like the 3/2 split on IoC Seize but that might be more of a metagame call. Also will try the declaration of stone over the dismember which was something that RidetheIduana wanted to do anyways which I believe might turn out to be a great choice. Lastly I'm cutting 1 vents for 1 shrine. this could be wrong but I'd like to have the ability to search a dual if I have a shrine in play or in hand already.
The fact that he came 9th at a large modern open is no joke and it was only tiebreakers that kept him out of top 8. Wish we could have seen coverage on this deck but I also like how this deck is under the radar as well. I love to play the decks that most do not. If this deck exploded in popularity it becomes less my style.
very interested to see how people do with this deck moving forward I for one and looking forward to the next modern game at my local store.
Congrats on the great finish. I really enjoy the archetype and think your list looks great. I read your write up on another forum and I appreciate that you take the time to give great feedback.
I was wondering moving forward what you plan to change about the deck. I was curious if theres any merit to playing a card like leyline of the void over relic. i see how relic is great at adding value but i know the modern master gurus say leyline is an upgrade in every way. i suppose this deck the relics are better but i wonder if it could keep up to a deck like dredge which seems like a deck thats here to stay and might just be faster then what relics can provide. i suppose collective brutality would get a little better if you played leylines as reduntant copies naturally are much worse then relics and you can just cash them in for effects off brutality.
i loved the inclusion of scullers and removing the smashers. did you find it difficult to cast scullers on time? did you feel 3 was the right number?
my last question is - Since the deck is more crotrolling compared to past lists do you think bitterblossoms fits the gameplan at all? It seems like a good turn 2 play for this deck. I also really like the idea of testing out whispers of emrakul and dip into delirium if bitterblossoms is good. the collective brutality could be crazy. far fetched but I enjoy the discussions.
cheers!!