I admit I have not had a chance to play with Sandwurm Convergence. I did have a chance to play with Life from the Loam. It is powerful, disgustingly powerful...I love it!!!
In my latest game I had Dark Depths and Thespian's Stage out. At the end of my opponents end step before my turn I started the combo. I dropped Marit Lage and swung. After combat, it bit the dust. The collective group breathed a sigh of relief. Then I played Life from the Loam also, I cannot say enough good things about Boseiju, Who Shelters All because the Talrand player across from me stood up exclaiming he is making a land destruction deck!
It seems I went on a bit of a tangent. After playing Life from the Loam I retrieved Dark Depths, Thespian's Stage, and a cycle land. Unfortunately, at the time I didn't have any additional land drop cards in play. Then proceeded in playing Dark Depths. Table even tried to exile Life from the Loam in the graveyard but cycle land in my hand came to the rescue to save it. The table did not survive long.
Realms Uncharted finds the lands I need the most at the moment. Even if Glacial Chasm hits the graveyard the recursion is strong within the deck. I must be wary of graveyard exile though.
I have been looking to fit Oracle of Mul Daya but the only cut I can think of at the moment is Mana Bloom. However, Mana Bloom has done a lot of work. Sure it is a dead card when you have no enchantresses but when you do it feels so broken!! I was also looking at Goblin Charbelcher to cut but if offers removal of some pesky creatures although sometimes a hit or miss...
rogerandover and aslidsiksoraksi I would like to thank you both again for the suggestions!! Now to get my hands on Blasted Landscape...
When I was reading Bind I actually burst into laughter; that flavor text. Not to mention, Stasis and Sandwurm Convergence is a really cool combination!
rogerandover awesome game report! It also shed some light that sometimes Life from the Loam can be a dead card.
I am really excited to play test these changes and see what I like!
Hello, rogerandover and aslidsiksoraksi. Thank you both for the warm welcome.
I want to tread lightly on the number of non-basics because Primal Order really lets me hit those greedy land bases.
I have been toying with the idea (from your primer) of using Realms Uncharted with Life from the Loam to get the ball rolling on the cycle lands (is the new cycle land worth running too?). Or, will it take too much set up to get the package online and functioning? I ask cause, I don't have the opportunity to try it out in these coming weeks and love hearing other people's opinions. Everyone see things in a different light, sometimes I get bogged down by tiny details, and sometimes I miss the big picture - it's a curse . I mostly want increased draw power! There is something to be said when I am out drawing the blue players already without these changes.
About Sandwurm Convergence, I am excited because I think it is a really cool card too. I feel that 8 mana is not hard for the deck to pull off AND it is an enchantment!! You are right, it can also be a win-con. I was only thinking of the protection benefits for Nissa, Sage Animist. I think I am going to go ahead and slot it in.
I LOVE this deck because the cards in the deck are things I normally never play with! The fact that we use a lot of enchantments and cool lands is the icing on the cake. Not many people slot a lot of enchant/land hate (just one or two).
Hello, I got an itch to try something new and stumbled upon your deck list. I continued reading and was shocked (in a good way!) in the direction you took the deck. I scrambled to put your deck list together from cards I already owned and hunted for some of the older ones at my local store. After, I got your iteration of the deck together and went to play with my group of friends. It was amazingly fun and hilarious!!
Game 1:
My friend playing Aurelia, the Warleader had an indestructible field and proceeded in wiping out the table. Then he got to me, Glacial Chasm and Constant Mists are all-stars because they saved my butt so many times that game. I drew into Squall Lineand with the power of mana doublers, nuked him for the win.
Game 2:
Now, that everyone had an idea on how the deck worked it became more challenging. A card that really surprised me was Revelation. The table got spooked and everyone was thinking of a group effort way to suppress the deck. At first, I thought this card was useless when I first saw it...Then I played it. It lead to an interesting revelation on my part. The Prossh, Skyraider of Kher player at the table had a pretty alarming hand. All thoughts on suppressing the deck and I were forgotten. I thought to myself the political power this card holds is incredible!!!
Although, I was temporarily forgotten the blue players held up counters for Squall Line and Hurricane. A side note, I cannot say enough good things about the decks recursion package!! Nostalgic Dreams allowed me to recur and decimate my competitors after they thought they had neutered the deck.
Changes
Since playing my friends I made some changes like adding Boseiju, Who Shelters All for those pesky blue mages. After reading someone's suggestion on the usage of Life from the Loam and cycle lands, I got more excited. I also, threw in Life from the Loam and the two old cycle lands. I replaced Preferred Selection figuring if I have a problem I will just dig for a solution. I replaced Lignify with Song of the Dryads because my group is really, really efficient at killing creatures. Plus the idea of Song of the Dryads comboed with Thespian's Stage brings me joy thinking about it. With all that said, life hasn't allowed me to play with the new changes...
On the chopping block right now is Hibernation's End it is slow and super clunky. I saw someone talking about possibly trying out Sandwurm Convergence. If anyone tried it out, how was it?
I would like to thank aslidsiksoraksi for sharing this deck list (I mean gift) as you have fully converted me onto the ways of mono-green control.
Thank you for sharing your insights. I really appreciate your response. If you don't mind I will be borrowing your idea for creating my own Meta. My goal is trying to create an environment where the game is based more on skill (obviously, chance is involved) but I want the game to be less about the cost of cards.
Also are you adjusting the Meta by yourself? Have you enlisted the help of those that have piloted each of the decks in your Meta? Also, where is a good place to start when you recognize a problem? Or is there a process you follow when you make your adjustments?
Haha no I am not a troll, currently in finals, and not able to respond. I played magic a long time ago and got back in to it therefore, I decided to sign up, so I could learn more and ask question to more experienced players. If my comment seemed out of place, I apologize, and I didn't notice how old the thread was.
I found your thread when I was looking at your Anafenza primer (it was in your signature). I read your description on the meta and really like the idea. It really lets you try to find a balance with power between each deck. The current problem with my friends is the power level between decks seem to be getting more unbalanced (some people can afford better cards). I also like the fact you are trying to limit playing the same cards which got me interested.
I admit I have not had a chance to play with Sandwurm Convergence. I did have a chance to play with Life from the Loam. It is powerful, disgustingly powerful...I love it!!!
In my latest game I had Dark Depths and Thespian's Stage out. At the end of my opponents end step before my turn I started the combo. I dropped Marit Lage and swung. After combat, it bit the dust. The collective group breathed a sigh of relief. Then I played Life from the Loam also, I cannot say enough good things about Boseiju, Who Shelters All because the Talrand player across from me stood up exclaiming he is making a land destruction deck!
It seems I went on a bit of a tangent. After playing Life from the Loam I retrieved Dark Depths, Thespian's Stage, and a cycle land. Unfortunately, at the time I didn't have any additional land drop cards in play.
Realms Uncharted finds the lands I need the most at the moment. Even if Glacial Chasm hits the graveyard the recursion is strong within the deck. I must be wary of graveyard exile though.
I have been looking to fit Oracle of Mul Daya but the only cut I can think of at the moment is Mana Bloom. However, Mana Bloom has done a lot of work. Sure it is a dead card when you have no enchantresses but when you do it feels so broken!! I was also looking at Goblin Charbelcher to cut but if offers removal of some pesky creatures although sometimes a hit or miss...
I am going to try Seedtime out too!
When I was reading Bind I actually burst into laughter; that flavor text.
rogerandover awesome game report! It also shed some light that sometimes Life from the Loam can be a dead card.
I am really excited to play test these changes and see what I like!
I want to tread lightly on the number of non-basics because Primal Order really lets me hit those greedy land bases.
I have been toying with the idea (from your primer) of using Realms Uncharted with Life from the Loam to get the ball rolling on the cycle lands (is the new cycle land worth running too?). Or, will it take too much set up to get the package online and functioning? I ask cause, I don't have the opportunity to try it out in these coming weeks and love hearing other people's opinions. Everyone see things in a different light, sometimes I get bogged down by tiny details, and sometimes I miss the big picture - it's a curse
About Sandwurm Convergence, I am excited because I think it is a really cool card too. I feel that 8 mana is not hard for the deck to pull off AND it is an enchantment!! You are right, it can also be a win-con. I was only thinking of the protection benefits for Nissa, Sage Animist. I think I am going to go ahead and slot it in.
I LOVE this deck because the cards in the deck are things I normally never play with! The fact that we use a lot of enchantments and cool lands is the icing on the cake. Not many people slot a lot of enchant/land hate (just one or two).
Game 1:
My friend playing Aurelia, the Warleader had an indestructible field and proceeded in wiping out the table. Then he got to me, Glacial Chasm and Constant Mists are all-stars because they saved my butt so many times that game. I drew into Squall Lineand with the power of mana doublers, nuked him for the win.
Game 2:
Now, that everyone had an idea on how the deck worked it became more challenging. A card that really surprised me was Revelation. The table got spooked and everyone was thinking of a group effort way to suppress the deck. At first, I thought this card was useless when I first saw it...Then I played it. It lead to an interesting revelation on my part. The Prossh, Skyraider of Kher player at the table had a pretty alarming hand. All thoughts on suppressing the deck and I were forgotten. I thought to myself the political power this card holds is incredible!!!
Although, I was temporarily forgotten the blue players held up counters for Squall Line and Hurricane. A side note, I cannot say enough good things about the decks recursion package!! Nostalgic Dreams allowed me to recur and decimate my competitors after they thought they had neutered the deck.
Changes
Since playing my friends I made some changes like adding Boseiju, Who Shelters All for those pesky blue mages. After reading someone's suggestion on the usage of Life from the Loam and cycle lands, I got more excited. I also, threw in Life from the Loam and the two old cycle lands. I replaced Preferred Selection figuring if I have a problem I will just dig for a solution. I replaced Lignify with Song of the Dryads because my group is really, really efficient at killing creatures. Plus the idea of Song of the Dryads comboed with Thespian's Stage brings me joy thinking about it. With all that said, life hasn't allowed me to play with the new changes...
On the chopping block right now is Hibernation's End it is slow and super clunky. I saw someone talking about possibly trying out Sandwurm Convergence. If anyone tried it out, how was it?
I would like to thank aslidsiksoraksi for sharing this deck list (I mean gift) as you have fully converted me onto the ways of mono-green control.
Also are you adjusting the Meta by yourself? Have you enlisted the help of those that have piloted each of the decks in your Meta? Also, where is a good place to start when you recognize a problem? Or is there a process you follow when you make your adjustments?
I found your thread when I was looking at your Anafenza primer (it was in your signature). I read your description on the meta and really like the idea. It really lets you try to find a balance with power between each deck. The current problem with my friends is the power level between decks seem to be getting more unbalanced (some people can afford better cards). I also like the fact you are trying to limit playing the same cards which got me interested.
Thank you for your response!