No disrespect to you or anyone else here but I feel like I kinda answered all that in my previous reply and the discussion is getting a bit cyclical so I'm replying at my own peril here. What I'm really confused about though is this bizarre "sufficient hate" argument, which seems to imply that the people propagating it (Control players specifically) deserve or are owed what they deem to be "sufficient hate", using busted cards from eons ago as benchmarks. Why do you feel entitled to that? I don't get it.Quote from idSurge »No, I've long accepted that hard control is a dog, and frankly should be. The question to me is simply 'is there hate that is sufficient, or is it deck choice that matters more'.
For example Stony against Affinity, or War's Wage. Those can go in any deck, and matter against Affinity. When you say 'I dont even care about Claim and just run them over with TKS' that to me says the hate simply isnt sufficient.
EDIT: Like for example if I tap out, and a surprise Choke hits me. I'm 99% dead. Right there. Is there anything that does that against Tron? It feels like a huge nope.
And for the record, my winrates against Control with my big bad Tron deck in the month of June:
Jeskai: 8-8 (50%)
UW: 2-3 (40%)
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Back when Mirrodin block was first released, people thought Chrome Mox was bad because you ran few colored spells. It was not, it was worth it to adjust the deck to gain fast mana. You could literally take a block deck into extended and win tournaments. Oh, and that's ignoring the part where chrome mox automatically makes mono red prison a legit deck and not an occasional meme in modern.
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Same. Gotta get ready for eternal weekend!
Misty rainforest is showing a $5 drop on MtgGoldfish. I'm not that surprised, as that color combination doesn't see a ton of play in any format. I think it was an attempt to go "oh blue fetch, spike it."
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I'm not saying this will be optimal in six months, just that I'd rather diversify the flex spots instead of saying "well this is the least useful one so I'll cut that entirely from the maindeck" while figuring things out. It's not like anyone has to commit to a particular list immediately anyways.
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However, Cindervines raises the question of whether we should revisit Wild Nacatl and/or Atarka's Command to place a greater emphasis on green.
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