2019 Holiday Exchange!
 
A New and Exciting Beginning
 
The End of an Era
  • posted a message on Tezzeret and Saheeli
    Quote from Legend »
    Quote from Etherium Sage »

    So does the Mirrorworks-esque ability I've just given it seem more appropriate to you?

    It does. FTR, I wasn't tying to browbeat you so I hope I didn't come across that way. I was just trying to help refine a couple of cards that I rather like.

    So what about Tezzeret? Is he fine at 4 mana, or should I push him higher?
    Posted in: Custom Card Creation
  • posted a message on Tezzeret and Saheeli
    Quote from Legend »
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from Legend »
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from Legend »
    Her emblem doesn't seem like "her". Something like "Spells you cast have improvise." would be much cleaner and flavor appropriate imo.

    Except that that's the exact thing that Saheeli's Artistry does. Also Saheeli's skill-set is concentrated mainly in creating artifact replicas and transmuting artifacts. Her ultimate does the former.

    Also how is an emblem that represents Saheeli's niche less flavour appropriate than a generic ability that you could argue for even a Tezzeret card to have?

    I'm aware of her signature spell. It isn't the effect that isn't like her, it's the trigger that causes it to happen that isn't like her - that is, casting spells. Not only does it not match her, but it doesn't even feel Izzet (triggering off of instant and sorcery spells only) or Jeskai (prowess), as a concession. If her emblem must be Saheeli's Artistry, then it should be an eot trigger rather than a cast trigger.

    And this or that character having this or that effect is moot because that's the case in general.


    Saheeli can and does use magic to do some of the things she does, so I disagree that casting spells doesn't fit her.

    Not much of an argument since everything in Magic involves casting spells, but only certain settings and colors (and combinations thereof) trigger from (or otherwise care about) the casting of spells, and even then only the casting of specific kinds of spells - historic, multicolored, noncreature, etc.

    The emblem could also be templates to create an artifact copy of any nontoken artifact or creature that etb under your control.


    So does the Mirrorworks-esque ability I've just given it seem more appropriate to you?
    Posted in: Custom Card Creation
  • posted a message on Tezzeret and Saheeli
    Quote from Legend »
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from Legend »
    Her emblem doesn't seem like "her". Something like "Spells you cast have improvise." would be much cleaner and flavor appropriate imo.

    Except that that's the exact thing that Saheeli's Artistry does. Also Saheeli's skill-set is concentrated mainly in creating artifact replicas and transmuting artifacts. Her ultimate does the former.

    Also how is an emblem that represents Saheeli's niche less flavour appropriate than a generic ability that you could argue for even a Tezzeret card to have?

    I'm aware of her signature spell. It isn't the effect that isn't like her, it's the trigger that causes it to happen that isn't like her - that is, casting spells. Not only does it not match her, but it doesn't even feel Izzet (triggering off of instant and sorcery spells only) or Jeskai (prowess), as a concession. If her emblem must be Saheeli's Artistry, then it should be an eot trigger rather than a cast trigger.

    And this or that character having this or that effect is moot because that's the case in general.


    Saheeli can and does use magic to do some of the things she does, so I disagree that casting spells doesn't fit her.
    Posted in: Custom Card Creation
  • posted a message on Tezzeret and Saheeli
    Quote from Legend »
    Her emblem doesn't seem like "her". Something like "Spells you cast have improvise." would be much cleaner and flavor appropriate imo.

    Except that that's the exact thing that Saheeli's Artistry does. Also Saheeli's skill-set is concentrated mainly in creating artifact replicas and transmuting artifacts. Her ultimate does the former.

    Also how is an emblem that represents Saheeli's niche less flavour appropriate than a generic ability that you could argue for even a Tezzeret card to have?
    Posted in: Custom Card Creation
  • posted a message on Tezzeret and Saheeli
    I included spells in Tezz's ultimate because of the weird and potent shenanigans it would lead to, but based on the comments here, I should exclude spells from it and probably raise Tezz's mana cost?

    Also I like how Tezz's card is so apparently strong that Saheeli gets no attention outside of SecretInfiltrator's post. Smile
    Posted in: Custom Card Creation
  • posted a message on Planeswalker Deck Tezzeret & Liliana (partial leak)
    Quote from Rizso »
    with both ajani and sarkhan at 5 loyalities they are most likely to have 5 loyality as well.


    We already know that both Liliana and Tezzeret have 4 loyalty. You can even see the full cards on this same page.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Planeswalker Deck Tezzeret & Liliana (partial leak)
    I see a few cards whose names I've never heard of before, like One with the Machine.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Tezzeret and Saheeli
    Tezzeret, Perfection Seeker 2UB (M)
    Legendary Planeswalker - Tezzeret
    Starting loyalty: 3
    +1: Up to one target artifact becomes a 5/5 artifact creature until your next turn.
    -2: Target nonartifact creature gets -5/-5 until end of turn.
    -4: You get an emblem with "All nonland permanents you control and all cards you own that aren't on the battlefield are artifacts in addition to their other types."

    Saheeli, Filigree Artist 2UR (M)
    Legendary Planeswalker - Saheeli
    Starting loyalty: 3
    +1: Untap up to one target artifact or creature. It gains haste until end of turn.
    -2: Create a token that's a copy of target creature, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types.
    -6: You get an emblem with "Whenever a nontoken artifact or creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may create a token that's a copy of that permanent, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. That token gains haste."


    Tezzeret, Perfection Seeker 1UB (M)
    Legendary Planeswalker - Tezzeret
    Starting loyalty: 3
    +1: Up to one target artifact becomes a 5/5 artifact creature until your next turn.
    -2: Target nonartifact creature gets -5/-5 until end of turn.
    -4: You get an emblem with "All spells and permanents you control and all cards you own that aren't on the battlefield are artifacts in addition to their other types."

    Saheeli, Filigree Artist 2UR (M)
    Legendary Planeswalker - Saheeli
    Starting loyalty: 3
    +1: Untap up to one target artifact or creature. It gains haste until end of turn.
    -2: Create a token that's a copy of target creature, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. That token gains haste and loses all other abilities.
    -6: You get an emblem with "Whenever you cast a spell, you may create a token that's a copy of target artifact." and "Whenever you cast a spell, you may create a token that's a copy of target creature, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types."
    Posted in: Custom Card Creation
  • posted a message on Core 2019 General Discussion
    So both Tezzeret, Cruel Machinist and Tezzeret's Strider show Tezzeret somewhere on Esper.

    Is he going back to Alara at some point, or is this just non-canon stuff?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Planeswalker Deck Vivien
    Funnily enough, I think the -3 is actually flavourful, because she's "shooting" the animal at something.

    Also this is one of the few planeswalker deck walkers which I prefer the art for over their "normal" versions.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Artwork Preview via Stream
    Kruphix: If Bolas ever made his way here, we're ****ed.

    *Sees the satyr picture*

    Welp, Theros, it was nice knowing you.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Core 2019 General Discussion
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    I wonder how much better off the people on Amonkhet, Zendikar, Innistrad, Tarkir, Ixalan and Dominaria (among other planes influenced directly and indirectly by Bolas and Ugin) would have been if the hunters got to the twins.


    Well the Eldrazi Titans would be ending planes unless some other Oldwalkers stepped up to stop them.


    Considering Ugin wanted to keep them alive since he's concerned about their purpose in the ecosystem of the Multiverse, is that really a bad thing in the grand scheme of things?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Core 2019 General Discussion
    I wonder how much better off the people on Amonkhet, Zendikar, Innistrad, Tarkir, Ixalan and Dominaria (among other planes influenced directly and indirectly by Bolas and Ugin) would have been if the hunters got to the twins.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Core 2019 General Discussion
    Quote from Chalsis »
    I've been positively glowing about this story all day long. After months of poor to mediocre fiction, this is beyond anything I ever knew I wanted. I haven't been this enthused about the MTG story in years. Things I loved:

    - The Elder Dragon eggstones falling to earth like meteors.

    - Nicol Bolas not being pure evil from the start. Seeing him show empathy and actually caring about someone else, even as we also glimpse the early seeds of his future savagery. It gives him much-needed layer and nuance.

    -Bolas and Ugin starting out as the runts. Bolas experiencing smallness and powerlessness from the very start.

    -Seeing the primordial, neolithic Dominaria (I assume it's Dominaria?) It feels like the Elders have fallen right into a Jean M. Auel setting; an ancient, pre-civilized world full of wonder and possibility, where all of history still lies ahead.

    -The twin girls paralleling Ugin and Bolas.

    -Actually getting our earliest bit of MTG lore. It feels primal and even somewhat sacred; a privileged glimpse of primordial birth and creation. It even seems scriptural at times.

    -The beautiful, violent, evocative imagery.

    Until today, I had absolutely no curiosity whatsoever about the history of the Elder Dragons and their war. This story did me a 180. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm breathless for more.


    This is probably the most positive comment I've seen about this story. I'm also interested to see where they go with this backstory, and this does shed some light on why Bolas thinks and acts the way he does. He clearly had the capacity to care about his family, and we see a lot of the "red" side of him with his impatience, lust for revenge and recklessness. However, as the flashback progressed, we start to see the more calculating and introspective side of him. Instead of just being hellbent on revenge, he stops for a moment and considers that maybe that's just how things are and he just has to be as high in the food chain as possible. This is more like the Bolas we currently know.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Core 2019 General Discussion
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    ^ Eh, I took that more as they knew each other's names, not that they named each other. Being twins and all. I doubt they've got a Voldemort/Harry Potter shared fate type of situation (on top of that being totally lame).

    They just, from a writing standpoint, didn't want to introduce them the way the other three were. "I am Nicol Bolas! And I .... need help getting out of this." "I am Ugin, yeah here I come." Wouldn't exactly have the same impact as the previously introduced dragons. :p


    If I was a telepath and saw Bolas's memories of being born (if I somehow had access to his memories in the first place), I'd probably keep it to myself, because I'd prefer to keep my mind.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • To post a comment, please or register a new account.