I've always liked natural affinity. The entwine one makes a lot more sense. I used to have a grave pact NA deck a long time ago. And that was the end of people wrath'nd my board (cast NA with pact triggers on stack)
I like advocate but hitting 6 lands is no easy task. He is kind of a cheaper garruk ult though when online
Engulf the Shores had me somewhat intrigued with building mana rocks. But the same could be said of pyroclasm and leyline of vitality
I use command as a tap effect often enough. Generally not concerned with the size of their board. The point isn't to get a Jace out on turn 3. The point is to get him out on turn 4, with green open, and ride fog/gigadrowse and command to victory. I've been playing 4 dictates lately in place of a fog, Nissa, and whatever else I cut, and I don't use a sideboard. I'm not worrying about that until I have maindeck right. It has a lot of potential, but I'm just an average deck builder. I've had a few compliments from opponents on both wins and losses.
I haven't experimented with courser of kruphix. The reveal is troublesome, but the library manipulation is beyond absurd with him if he sticks. Moreover, growth Spiral and courser is never draw a land. Though that reveal could present positive and negative opportunities with mastery.
Green offers spiral and fog. Fog can be the cheapest form of take an extra turn depending on opponent. It can also get scryed away if you don't need it. Gigadrowse is a distinctly different use but offers some consistency for it and flat out beats control/Tron builds along with a few others. Fog don't care about bogles. White has fog too, so does black, so there's plenty of colors you can splash. Spiral is really good though. Worst case scenario it's simply a cycler. But you can make some bomb plays and even opens up holding lands as bluffs, or sneaking in a man land or whatever. Simic wants to ramp, and it wants to draw. This does both, while you can leave counters up.
The whole premise is to combine taking turns with turbofog. Both of which like howling effects.
I have to do more research before I can tweak it more.
I cried and cried to wizards for an instant speed rampant growth. Merry Xmas! Draw is better than search anyway.
Why even run dictate when there's stuff like opt, remand, cryptic, and this. Those are all nice instant speed cantrips for temporal mastery. Which Jace can enable very quickly if you get unlucky.
Just a stupid amount of draw. It's only a rough draft but it's been decent. Leaving up fog Mana for Jace on turn 4 while leaving up counter Mana leading up to it is a strong effect to go off on turn 5 while having disruption. And when I say go off I mean take 3 turns in a row with a bunch of scry and draw
They just spoiled growth Spiral. Something both green decks and remand/cryptic decks have been sorely lacking.its not an instant speed rampant growth but the draw is arguably better. Think courser fog or turns and you're golden. Jace is way better than Nissa if you're thinking temporal. You can max out on 4 of them and not worth as much about that gap from 4 to 7 or just flat out opt a mastery
If you fuse those 2 decks together you get creature control with fog, counterspell for well anything else. And green noncreature removal if you so choose. It is the deck that is outmatched late game no matter if your simic or azor
Aren't you generally trying to slow them down to hit 5 lands and combo off? Turbo fog has melded with turbo turns for good reason. Because of gigadrowse owning late game hardcore.
I like advocate but hitting 6 lands is no easy task. He is kind of a cheaper garruk ult though when online
Engulf the Shores had me somewhat intrigued with building mana rocks. But the same could be said of pyroclasm and leyline of vitality
3 Birds of Paradise
4 Remand
2 Dispel
2 Negate
2 Logic Knot
2 Cryptic Command
4 Fog
4 Growth Spiral
2 Natural Affinity
3 Search for Azcanta
4 Gigadrowse
4 Nature's Claim
Something like this maybe
They printed Growth Spiral And I was immediately excited.
You can use search for tomorrow and spiral for early ramp. I suppose the finisher of choice would be Garruk.
Toss in some counterspells like remand and whatnot and all of a sudden you don't need much besides control, ramp,, Garruk and lands.
I haven't experimented with courser of kruphix. The reveal is troublesome, but the library manipulation is beyond absurd with him if he sticks. Moreover, growth Spiral and courser is never draw a land. Though that reveal could present positive and negative opportunities with mastery.
Green offers spiral and fog. Fog can be the cheapest form of take an extra turn depending on opponent. It can also get scryed away if you don't need it. Gigadrowse is a distinctly different use but offers some consistency for it and flat out beats control/Tron builds along with a few others. Fog don't care about bogles. White has fog too, so does black, so there's plenty of colors you can splash. Spiral is really good though. Worst case scenario it's simply a cycler. But you can make some bomb plays and even opens up holding lands as bluffs, or sneaking in a man land or whatever. Simic wants to ramp, and it wants to draw. This does both, while you can leave counters up.
The whole premise is to combine taking turns with turbofog. Both of which like howling effects.
I have to do more research before I can tweak it more.
Why even run dictate when there's stuff like opt, remand, cryptic, and this. Those are all nice instant speed cantrips for temporal mastery. Which Jace can enable very quickly if you get unlucky.
It's not very tuned at all, but here's a list.
4 fog
3 gigadrowse
4 remand
4 growth Spiral
3 cryptic command
3 Nissa, Steward of Elements
4 Temporal Mastery
4 Time Warp
Just a stupid amount of draw. It's only a rough draft but it's been decent. Leaving up fog Mana for Jace on turn 4 while leaving up counter Mana leading up to it is a strong effect to go off on turn 5 while having disruption. And when I say go off I mean take 3 turns in a row with a bunch of scry and draw
Growth Spiral
Instant
UG
Draw a card. You may put a land from hand on to battlefield. Literally the perfect compliment to remand.
Fog color?
Li8rary manipulation? Nissa possi8le?
Remand/Cryptic#s=4/3?
Thoughts on oath of nissa?
-U control
-any color PW & Turns
-minimal splash green
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