@Pizza
I think you're pretty obviously agenda pushing, given how much you're focusing on persuading with theatrics rather than logic.
In particular I have no idea why you ISO'd Tubba(#502) and Jenna(#514) but not DoTA, your highest townread who has been aggro'd more than either. I would like you to make your case on town!DoTA similar to those posts.
The question I'm asking myself right now is "Is pizza trying to seize the lynch because he thinks town is wrong or is he scum covering for his buddy DoTA?"
I'm going to compile all my cases against DoTA together at some point this Day phase (yay extension) so you can respond to it, but I'm not remotely convinced by you pointing to a single post.
Oh, Tau. I also got town reads off of Tau, kinda strong ones, but I want to go back and re-read there.
Last game I got town reads off of a very special player (tm) for being really undiplomatic to people and ateing forever, as scum, but. That doesn't usually happen to me I promise.
Still, I'll be more carefully and fully iso and examine the slot from both angles before putting them on my page.
Uh do you think I've been undiplomatic and ateing? That definitely wasn't my intent.
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Still working on my votal analysis (expect it tomorrow) but anybody (@grapefruit21 @Jenna) who thinks DoTA/Torg are buddies should look closer at their D1 interactions King Torg got on DoTA early and stayed there all Day. I really doubt they're w/w.
On Reaverb (the things that pinged scum):
-His first two posts were dodgy, over explaining an RVS vote to be max. He follows up that he did so as to avoid sounding insulting, which could be true.
-He continues with a vote on Dota, but part of the reasoning was specifically criticizing him for his RVS vote of me, which was pretty clearly RVS.
-Post 70 he asks Jenna for "empirical evidence" on her scum read of Vaimes. I don't know what empirical evidence you expect anyone to have on day one, so to demand it looked bad.
-Post 148 is coaching on King Torg, slight buddy pings for it.
-Post 215 is a vote on KJ when his logic implied a better chance for Colin to be scum. Like I'm not sure why he didn't vote KJ earlier and then post his criticisms of Colin. He later goes over his logic a little deeper but I'm somewhat suspicious that he's being a little revisionist.
I like how 1/3rd your stuff is about RVS and 1/3rd of it is so weak you feel compelled to include "but he might be Town here because..."
By "empirical evidence" I was expecting Jeanna to quote the posts that made them feel off on Vaimes.
Part of your premise seems to be that you, when making that opening post, I should have been considering how it would help town. You said as much when you said that "what I said was not particularly +EV town". The intention of the post was not to directly benefit town. It was to guage people's answers and see if I can figure out where they were coming from.
Town players don't have to go "wow I'm going to go back a +EV Town post!!" to do it. They just do it naturally. Guaging people's answers and exposing where they're coming from is one form of +EV Town post.
(For the class: The rest of this Killjoy post convinced me he has done this)
So here's where I am right now:
Jenna
(Really large gap here)
Shadow/Voxx
King Torg
grapefruit (r. Bear)
Killjoy/Colin
TubbaFett
DotA
Vote: DoTA
Anyway I am slightly irked by Killjoy being on this wagon, which probably means it's time to break out the votal analysis.
On the players I'm willing to lynch toDay:
I dislike DoTA for the same reasons as I disliked him Day 1, plus this Day phase he completely abandoned his "read through everybody's ISOs in inverse order of length" project.
TubbaFett's scumread of Voxx seems designed to screw with me personally because I have talked in past about how good it is for scum to push on Voxx's player archetype while not giving reads on anybody else but it's also something scum have been terrified to do historically. I think it's some net townpoints, but not enough to dig him out of his hole. His engagement with Colin seems fine, but he hasn't done much else.
I did read/skim TubbaFett's ISO in his other scumgame but I don't think it's indicative. He did change his tone a lot - he's using first person a lot less this game - but I don't think his approach to the game has changed all that much. He hasn't done anything dramatic like post readslists or try to learn votal analysis for this game, and minor changes could easily be knowing that he would be exposed as scum in Low Fantasy before this game ended.
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@TubbaFett What are your top 3 townreads and top 3 scumreads and why? If Voxx is on the list, feel free to name drop them and skip the explaination.
This all presupposes that my intent when I was making this post was to give the thread insight into my slots state of mind. Like, you seem to think that... when I was making the post, the thoughts running through my head should have been relating to the concequences of my post... which is a scum mentality. You're presupposing I'm scum and going from there. You're tunneling. Try to look at these things objectively. It's hard to take you seriously while you're thinking like this about me.
Your counterargument strikes me as nonsensical I'm going to skip that for now because I think this next question will clear that up too:
What was your intent when making #142 and your content up to (not including) #286?
Like, you're literally calling questions relevent to, at the bare minimum, my mindset this game noise. That's jsut factually incorrect.
Tell me what you got out of some of the questions in #142, or some other post of yours before #286. I have a hard time believing you got anything meaningful out of it.
Reaverb: Your play this game has felt more about pushing to lynch people rather than pushing to find alignments. For instance Tubba; you pushed him for a certain progression he made, then when you realized your missed a post, you didn't really reevaluate that read so much as seem disappointed you couldn't push him more. You've also been a little jumpy/preemptive with keeping people from pushing you. Your first two posts of the game are an example of this, as well your post where you throw out percentage likelihoods of Colin and KJ being scum then immediately cover it with "but those are just eyeball'd, don't hold me to them".
Just reading through your posts there's a bunch of small markers all over that are scummy in a vacuum as well, and not a lot of indicators of a townie mindset that I can see.
1) I as very disappointed when my King Torg progression turned out to be factually wrong. I thought I had a caught a scum, then it turns out I hadn't. It also indicated even if my reads contain factual errors the thread isn't going to be able to help me correct them, and having other players check my work is my favorite part of posting reads in-thread.
2) I hate getting pushed for all the same reasons Voxx does, plus I actually get mislynched occasionally so it's even worse.
#186 is very similar to #142 in style, it also has lots of noise and little signal. Not going to break it down like #142 unless somebody wants me to, but the only good thing in the post is his read on Voxx (which is a towntell, building a read on a false premise so you can undermine it later when convenient is a theoretically good scum strategy but I've never actually seen somebody do it).
#223 is very similar to #142 and #186, although it also adds asking me a bunch of questions for scumreading him, which is something I didn't notice earlier.
He continues the pattern of noise-without-activity until #286 (once again I can break down any singe specific post but if I tried to dissect his entire ISO I'd be here for hours). In reaction to my noise-without-signal read, he posts a readsposts.
Readsposts aren't always good, but one thing they are very good is forcing players to draw conclusions. Killjoy's only clear positions before #286 were Voxx!Town, Osie!scum and hesitatingly scumreading DoTA and myself based on a specific response to a question. he didn't draw any line with the other players - just did snapshot reads that could be remixed or dismissed later.
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Voxx: I've given reasons for this, and his later posts have held true to it. He's trying to solve the game, Voxx style.
Colin: hasn't posted much, but I like where his head is at. He's critically thinking. Potentially a little biased because a lot of that has gone into thinking I'm town and defending me.
Bear: Similar to Colin, Critically thinking, but less so.
Vaimes: This is MOSTLY sheeping Voxx. He seems pretty sure that Vaimes is town, and I've had a bunch of trouble reading Vaimes. So I'm trusting Voxx on this for now.
Shadow: His early posts were giving me town vibes, like I said... plus the speed of the early wagon on him makes me think it was probably a wagon on town. That said, Vaimes did make a good point that shadow asking who on his wagon is scum and not doing the work is weird. Also he doesn't want to lynch either of the major wagons, which is also weird.
Tubba/King Torg/Jenna: None of these have really made a large impression on me.
REaver: I don't fully understand where he's coming from. Like, he thinks I'm scum for not posting a reads list, but never asks me for one. Also his 214 feels off.
DotA: Been over this. Not really scum but specifically doesn't really feel town, which I don't like.
Osie: I plan later today to make a post on this. Suffice it to say his mindset feels scummy to me.
This makes me feel slightly worse about scumreading Killjoy but it's not strong. All the underlines are places he keeps using weasel words that don't actually mean anything. "Critically thinking" isn't something verifiable. I think a Townie would be more likely to say something along the lines of "..though process on X and Y is critically thinking because Z and W etc." Flatly asserting somebody is "critically thinking" is not going to convince anybody of that fact. Bold is things already stated in thread.
I do like that he specifically ranked players. That is at the very least something we can cross-reference later and does fit with his stated views of the gamestate. He did not, however, take the opportunity to elaborate on his reads or even bring in very much of the comments he made on the thread in his previous activity.
His next "big" post is his Osie post, which is very too-little-to-late for trying to swing the lynch, so it seems like something he posted because he had already put the work in:
So, faking a post restriction is NAI. So I don't care about that.
Osie first got on my radar with the vote on Voxx. It felt... off. Like he was just trying to do... something.
Osie's 118 is the next thing that bothered me. Its a train of thought post, Except some of the questions are meaningless (how much wood could a woodchuck chuck?)
The Reads list in 129 is another thing. Its full of weak townreads and fence sitting.Gives him the freedom to mostly go anywhere with his reads should he need to.
The whole post on Jenna seems ridiculous. IDK if Osie just didn't think that through, but what I (and now Vaimes) have alluded to is that the way she's doing this isn't something scum would necessarily do.
I pointed out 220. 200 posts into the game where quite a bit has happened and his best lynches are all based on his tinfoil worlds instead of ACTUAL things.
245, 277 are just barning Voxx. 277 in particular I'm annoyed he's not here to answer my question becuase it's very important.I need him to answer what behavior he objected to. It looks outwardly like he's just trying to copy Voxx with no reasons of his own.
The only thing thats giving me pause here (that I'm realizing right now) is that, ISOing him... nothing seems town.Like... nothing. Its all either superficial or scum.So. Shrug?
But all this stuff still adds up to scum, I think.
First, I am surprised he did not specifically deny my #296. He states he saw not reason to Townread Osie, but doesn't discuss my reasons for townreading Osie.
Second, note this readspost is very independent of the things he's been commented on. I believe Killjoy had mentioned 118 and 220 recently, but I'm not entirely sure (no post numbers in quotes). This is indicative - even Killjoy isn't particularly using his stream-of-conciousness style comments.
I do think this is still a Town Points Post (tm). It's just suppressed by the things I don't like and then killjoy's net is brought down by his other content.
#405 is then a return to stream-of-conciousness low impact-ism.
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@Voxx Can you talk more about your townread on Killjoy and the case here?
He wants to look Town more than he actually wants to help Town.
I want to bring up #142 and #186 again.
I've said in the past they're bringing up old posts just to look Town and not actually trying to solve the game. Let's dissect #142.
It's composed of 13 posts and response by Killjoy. Coloring to be explained later. In order:
Quote 1 - Vaimes - A question to Vaimes Killjoy never follows up on.
Quote 2 - Voxxicus - Vox townread based on a single post
Quote 3 - Osie - Asks about Vaimes meta
Quote 4 - Colin - compliments Colin's joke post
Quote 5 - King Torg - compliments Torg's joke post
Quote 6 - Reaverb Tau (myself) - Killjoy states they are townreading Shadow for "town vibes"
Quote 7 - Osie - States they don't like Osie's Voxx vote. They give no reasons for not liking the vote, and do not say how much that makes them think Osie is scum
Quote 8 - Shadow - Tries to establish Voxx-shadow meta relationship
Quote 9 - Voxx - States that DotA and Osie are anti-aligned with Shadow, and there was probably a scum on the Shadow wagon
Quote 10 - Voxx - Asks how confident Voxx is in their Vaimes read, and asks for Voxx's Osie read
Quote 11 - King Torg - Asks King Torg what they think is the motivation for a DoTA post given DoTA is scum
Quote 12 - DoTA - asks about more information of why DoTA thinks Shadow's phrasing when talking about the lynch is seems scummy.
Quote 13 - Jenna - asks Jenna who the most likely scumbuddy of Osie is.
Post ends with Killjoy voting Osie
First note he didn't actually say that all much, it looks like a big wall of text with the quotes but it's a couple paragraphs with long explanations.
Second, what he did say was not particularly +EV Town. Brown are things which are clearly not helpful. Orangish-yellow are questions that are somewhat helpful but clarify things which would likely be cleared up if they ever became relevant. Purple are reads which have little justification and don't commit to anything - Killjoy is free to walk them back at any time, and they cannot be challenged by players who think they are wrong because there's no clear premises and chain of logic. The Red comment repeats ideas already well established in-thread. Blue is a couple questions I just think are weak and establish minutiae not particularly relevant to discussion - nobody is seriously going to lynch Shadow based on just some poor wording.
I'm not saying you can't have multiple scumspects, I am saying that talking about 3 people you find scummy and then voting a fourth you don't even mention is scum behavior.
I've talked on why I scumread Killjoy before, I'm planning to make another post on him in the next day or so. I hate having my vote doing nothing. I also think you're putting too much weight on "might be scum with DoTA", I don't want to lynch either of you this Day phase.
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But really though, you think my back and forth with Voxx is scum theater, or even that we are both scum individually? I just don't buy that.
Voxx has done nothing remotely outside of his scum range. I don't know you hugely well except that you're good at both town and scum, and you don't appear to have done much outside of get wagoned (which I said from the start might have been an intentional distancing measure) and given reads without many reasons. I don't know which Voxx/you exchange you're referring to, but nothing struck me as significantly indicative of anti-alignment when reading through it.
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Number of posts shadow has made without explaining his scumread on me after trying to get me lynched D1: 5
In my experience a "reads-post" would be more indicative of scum. It gives more room for maneuverability and it's lazier. The post felt really good to me. When I read it I felt comfortable, like it's a natural post rather than a constructed one. As I've said earlier I'm an emotional player, so that's going to skew things which can be read multiple ways at times. Either way, I think the post is a good measuring stick showing Killjoy's thought process which can be used to compare future posts and interactions.
Could you give an example of something you think Killjoy has committed to? Give an example of something Killjoy could post that you would call a walk-back. Because right now he hasn't committed to any reads except Voxx being Town, which was justified with false premises anyway.
I am caught up with the thread now, if I haven't answered a question please bring it up.
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Number of posts shadow has made without explaining his scumread on me after trying to get me lynched D1: 3
Your suspicion of me/Voxx as a team is laughably ridiculous and just not a thought I believe you would have as town; annnnnnd then voting a person you haven't even mentioned in this post after spouting 3 other people you think are scum? Nope.
If it's "laughably ridiculous" then you should be able to explain why it's wrong, shouldn't you?
Killjoy is another scumread of mine. Tunneling on a single world is obviously anti-Town behavior.
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Since shadow seems to love dodging questions, I'm going to put this as a signature on all my posts until he properly explains his scumread on me.
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Number of posts shadow has made without explaining his scumread on me after trying to get me lynched D1: 3
@Voxx
Regarding your feelings on Bear, I'm inclined to take your word for it, I've no previous experience with them so everything you say could be true and a perfectly valid reason to put vote pressure on them. However, I dont think you are going to be able to bring enough people on with what is essentially a meta read to make a lynch happen there. Talk to me about Osie, Tau, Dot and Colin. Does your meta offer you any insight on those players?
@Tubba Fett
Why are you inclined to take Voxx's word for anything? Are you townreading Voxx? If so, why had you not mentioned it before this post? Why didn't you vote A Bear here?
First sentence is "I feel like Killjoy is reading the thread, and therefore and Townreading him" ???
Second/Third sentences are....I don't know where or how much forum mafia you've played in the past but necroquoting (neologism by me, pretty clear analogy to necroposting) is something I've seen from scum more often than Town. For the exact reasons you mentioned, it helps players look Town while being significantly less +EV Town than most other types of content. Also, a good amount of the content in #142 was the equivalent of Killjoy responding to a post with "lol".
Fourth sentence "presents a lot of opportunities for the other players to interact with him": That would be a lot better accomplished with a reads-post, and having everybody start arguing about necroquotes tends to degrade Town conversation more than it actually helps.
Final sentence is fine, although asking questions as scum isn't rocket science.
lolwut?
First sentence: That wasn't his argument. His argument was that i had a clear train of thought.
Second/Third: Why is specifically the way I entered the game scum vs. town? Your arguments of "He could do that as scum" are kinda flimsy, and are easily countered with "he could do that as town though." Why are you so intent on scumreading me for this, and why didn't you bring this up earlier?
Fourth: I could have, but I didn't. This is what I did. Just because I didn't enter the game like you would have doesn't make me scum.
This all seems out of nowhere. I'm not sure where it came from. I was null in 149 and now I'm scum?
Your content up until your readspost was all things that are more effective at making somebody /look/ Town rather than /actually helping Town/ (relative to most other types of content). Nitpicking specific ancient posts makes it looks like you're evaluating everything in-thread, but it's much less effective than scanning ISOs for particular patterns of behavior or specifically ranking players in a way that can later referenced or discussed.
I put you as null in #149 because I thought it might have been a 1-shot catch-up post, but then #186 was almost identical in style. I think townreading you for that post is still weird.
I think you're pretty obviously agenda pushing, given how much you're focusing on persuading with theatrics rather than logic.
In particular I have no idea why you ISO'd Tubba(#502) and Jenna(#514) but not DoTA, your highest townread who has been aggro'd more than either. I would like you to make your case on town!DoTA similar to those posts.
The question I'm asking myself right now is "Is pizza trying to seize the lynch because he thinks town is wrong or is he scum covering for his buddy DoTA?"
I'm going to compile all my cases against DoTA together at some point this Day phase (yay extension) so you can respond to it, but I'm not remotely convinced by you pointing to a single post.
Uh do you think I've been undiplomatic and ateing? That definitely wasn't my intent.
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@Shadow "weak" was your first and last point. I find it weird that you're giving multiple interpretations of my actions without discussing probabilities /which interpretation you think is more likely.
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Still working on my votal analysis (expect it tomorrow) but anybody (@grapefruit21 @Jenna) who thinks DoTA/Torg are buddies should look closer at their D1 interactions King Torg got on DoTA early and stayed there all Day. I really doubt they're w/w.
By "empirical evidence" I was expecting Jeanna to quote the posts that made them feel off on Vaimes.
(For the class: The rest of this Killjoy post convinced me he has done this)
So here's where I am right now:
Jenna
(Really large gap here)
Shadow/Voxx
King Torg
grapefruit (r. Bear)
Killjoy/Colin
TubbaFett
DotA
Vote: DoTA
Anyway I am slightly irked by Killjoy being on this wagon, which probably means it's time to break out the votal analysis.
On the players I'm willing to lynch toDay:
I dislike DoTA for the same reasons as I disliked him Day 1, plus this Day phase he completely abandoned his "read through everybody's ISOs in inverse order of length" project.
TubbaFett's scumread of Voxx seems designed to screw with me personally because I have talked in past about how good it is for scum to push on Voxx's player archetype while not giving reads on anybody else but it's also something scum have been terrified to do historically. I think it's some net townpoints, but not enough to dig him out of his hole. His engagement with Colin seems fine, but he hasn't done much else.
I did read/skim TubbaFett's ISO in his other scumgame but I don't think it's indicative. He did change his tone a lot - he's using first person a lot less this game - but I don't think his approach to the game has changed all that much. He hasn't done anything dramatic like post readslists or try to learn votal analysis for this game, and minor changes could easily be knowing that he would be exposed as scum in Low Fantasy before this game ended.
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@TubbaFett What are your top 3 townreads and top 3 scumreads and why? If Voxx is on the list, feel free to name drop them and skip the explaination.
What was your intent when making #142 and your content up to (not including) #286?
Tell me what you got out of some of the questions in #142, or some other post of yours before #286. I have a hard time believing you got anything meaningful out of it.
I've never seen anybody in a debate give their piece while /completely ignoring/ the opposing arguments. It strikes me as fake.
2) I hate getting pushed for all the same reasons Voxx does, plus I actually get mislynched occasionally so it's even worse.
#186 is very similar to #142 in style, it also has lots of noise and little signal. Not going to break it down like #142 unless somebody wants me to, but the only good thing in the post is his read on Voxx (which is a towntell, building a read on a false premise so you can undermine it later when convenient is a theoretically good scum strategy but I've never actually seen somebody do it).
#223 is very similar to #142 and #186, although it also adds asking me a bunch of questions for scumreading him, which is something I didn't notice earlier.
He continues the pattern of noise-without-activity until #286 (once again I can break down any singe specific post but if I tried to dissect his entire ISO I'd be here for hours). In reaction to my noise-without-signal read, he posts a readsposts.
Readsposts aren't always good, but one thing they are very good is forcing players to draw conclusions. Killjoy's only clear positions before #286 were Voxx!Town, Osie!scum and hesitatingly scumreading DoTA and myself based on a specific response to a question. he didn't draw any line with the other players - just did snapshot reads that could be remixed or dismissed later.
#286:
This makes me feel slightly worse about scumreading Killjoy but it's not strong. All the underlines are places he keeps using weasel words that don't actually mean anything. "Critically thinking" isn't something verifiable. I think a Townie would be more likely to say something along the lines of "..though process on X and Y is critically thinking because Z and W etc." Flatly asserting somebody is "critically thinking" is not going to convince anybody of that fact. Bold is things already stated in thread.
I do like that he specifically ranked players. That is at the very least something we can cross-reference later and does fit with his stated views of the gamestate. He did not, however, take the opportunity to elaborate on his reads or even bring in very much of the comments he made on the thread in his previous activity.
His next "big" post is his Osie post, which is very too-little-to-late for trying to swing the lynch, so it seems like something he posted because he had already put the work in:
First, I am surprised he did not specifically deny my #296. He states he saw not reason to Townread Osie, but doesn't discuss my reasons for townreading Osie.
Second, note this readspost is very independent of the things he's been commented on. I believe Killjoy had mentioned 118 and 220 recently, but I'm not entirely sure (no post numbers in quotes). This is indicative - even Killjoy isn't particularly using his stream-of-conciousness style comments.
I do think this is still a Town Points Post (tm). It's just suppressed by the things I don't like and then killjoy's net is brought down by his other content.
#405 is then a return to stream-of-conciousness low impact-ism.
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@Voxx Can you talk more about your townread on Killjoy and the case here?
He wants to look Town more than he actually wants to help Town.
I want to bring up #142 and #186 again.
I've said in the past they're bringing up old posts just to look Town and not actually trying to solve the game. Let's dissect #142.
It's composed of 13 posts and response by Killjoy. Coloring to be explained later. In order:
Quote 1 - Vaimes - A question to Vaimes Killjoy never follows up on.
Quote 2 - Voxxicus - Vox townread based on a single post
Quote 3 - Osie - Asks about Vaimes meta
Quote 4 - Colin - compliments Colin's joke post
Quote 5 - King Torg - compliments Torg's joke post
Quote 6 - Reaverb Tau (myself) - Killjoy states they are townreading Shadow for "town vibes"
Quote 7 - Osie - States they don't like Osie's Voxx vote. They give no reasons for not liking the vote, and do not say how much that makes them think Osie is scum
Quote 8 - Shadow - Tries to establish Voxx-shadow meta relationship
Quote 9 - Voxx - States that DotA and Osie are anti-aligned with Shadow, and there was probably a scum on the Shadow wagon
Quote 10 - Voxx - Asks how confident Voxx is in their Vaimes read, and asks for Voxx's Osie read
Quote 11 - King Torg - Asks King Torg what they think is the motivation for a DoTA post given DoTA is scum
Quote 12 - DoTA - asks about more information of why DoTA thinks Shadow's phrasing when talking about the lynch is seems scummy.
Quote 13 - Jenna - asks Jenna who the most likely scumbuddy of Osie is.
Post ends with Killjoy voting Osie
First note he didn't actually say that all much, it looks like a big wall of text with the quotes but it's a couple paragraphs with long explanations.
Second, what he did say was not particularly +EV Town. Brown are things which are clearly not helpful. Orangish-yellow are questions that are somewhat helpful but clarify things which would likely be cleared up if they ever became relevant. Purple are reads which have little justification and don't commit to anything - Killjoy is free to walk them back at any time, and they cannot be challenged by players who think they are wrong because there's no clear premises and chain of logic. The Red comment repeats ideas already well established in-thread. Blue is a couple questions I just think are weak and establish minutiae not particularly relevant to discussion - nobody is seriously going to lynch Shadow based on just some poor wording.
To be continued tomorrow.
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Please re-read post #221
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Voxx has done nothing remotely outside of his scum range. I don't know you hugely well except that you're good at both town and scum, and you don't appear to have done much outside of get wagoned (which I said from the start might have been an intentional distancing measure) and given reads without many reasons. I don't know which Voxx/you exchange you're referring to, but nothing struck me as significantly indicative of anti-alignment when reading through it.
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Number of posts shadow has made without explaining his scumread on me after trying to get me lynched D1: 5
I am caught up with the thread now, if I haven't answered a question please bring it up.
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Number of posts shadow has made without explaining his scumread on me after trying to get me lynched D1: 3
Killjoy is another scumread of mine. Tunneling on a single world is obviously anti-Town behavior.
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Since shadow seems to love dodging questions, I'm going to put this as a signature on all my posts until he properly explains his scumread on me.
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Number of posts shadow has made without explaining his scumread on me after trying to get me lynched D1: 3
@Tubba Fett
Why are you inclined to take Voxx's word for anything? Are you townreading Voxx? If so, why had you not mentioned it before this post? Why didn't you vote A Bear here?
I'm used to asking for reads list being considered rude due to the effort involved. Does that not apply here due to the Day length?
Your content up until your readspost was all things that are more effective at making somebody /look/ Town rather than /actually helping Town/ (relative to most other types of content). Nitpicking specific ancient posts makes it looks like you're evaluating everything in-thread, but it's much less effective than scanning ISOs for particular patterns of behavior or specifically ranking players in a way that can later referenced or discussed.
I put you as null in #149 because I thought it might have been a 1-shot catch-up post, but then #186 was almost identical in style. I think townreading you for that post is still weird.