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  • posted a message on Need Help Creating Izzet Chaos
    Quote from tstorm823 »

    I understand that is the point of the card being annoying, it really doesn't serve any other purpose. That is when I draw the line of using the it's "your fun so I can't say anything" bull***** excuse of running this garbage. Can you tell I hate this card? It's like I get it, we all get it, the player gets off making people mad and crave reactions, but sooner or later that player is gonna get reeeeeeal tired of actually counting out permanents and players each time any targeted spell happens. Just do everyone a favor and don't play Grip of Chaos.


    I disagree entirely. The card is an excellently oppressive symmetrical effect, like Rest In Peace or Torper Orb. Grip of Chaos shuts down a ton of stuff. Like, Spellskite is a good card. Redirecting targets is a desirable effect even to eat a single removal spell. To screw up everything that targets is incredible. You shut down removal, you shut down voltron decks, you turn off nearly all of the game's infinite combos. So first question: do you really see no other purpose than being annoying? Like, I've had an opponent weep at the inefficacy of their Ghost Quarter because I had Grip of Chaos out, the same way one might weep at a Runescarred Demon with Torpor Orb out, and that brings me to my second question: why, in your experience with Grip of Chaos, do people keep targeting things willy nilly? If someone is casting a targetted spell trivially with only a chance it will benefit them at all, blame them for wasting time. If someone is playing something completely relevant, it's no longer a trivial waste of time because it's now it's a high tension roulette game, and that makes some seriously cool board states.


    Oooo, counter points, I like it.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Need Help Creating Izzet Chaos
    Quote from Yugiy »

    You really like having to count every single permanent and player and do math every. single. targeted spell? Grip of Chaos isn't cool dude. The lolz I am being a troll thing was done years ago, and is really only cute for about one game until you realize how insanely annoying it is and how much it slows the game down.


    I play with a lot of artifact/enchantment hate. I don't anticipate it lasting very long, even with targets being reselected. Pretty much everyone in my play group runs a global wipe of one card type or another. You are right though, it would get annoying. But maybe that's the point?


    I understand that is the point of the card being annoying, it really doesn't serve any other purpose. That is when I draw the line of using the it's "your fun so I can't say anything" bull***** excuse of running this garbage. Can you tell I hate this card? It's like I get it, we all get it, the player gets off making people mad and crave reactions, but sooner or later that player is gonna get reeeeeeal tired of actually counting out permanents and players each time any targeted spell happens. Just do everyone a favor and don't play Grip of Chaos.

    Lol I got you. I have a Frozen Aether I can sideboard for it.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Need Help Creating Izzet Chaos

    You really like having to count every single permanent and player and do math every. single. targeted spell? Grip of Chaos isn't cool dude. The lolz I am being a troll thing was done years ago, and is really only cute for about one game until you realize how insanely annoying it is and how much it slows the game down.


    I play with a lot of artifact/enchantment hate. I don't anticipate it lasting very long, even with targets being reselected. Pretty much everyone in my play group runs a global wipe of one card type or another. You are right though, it would get annoying. But maybe that's the point?
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Need Help Creating Izzet Chaos
    Yeah Hive Mind should be obnoxious.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Need Help Creating Izzet Chaos


    Really liking the first four. Thanks for the ideas on those.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Your favorite panic buttons
    I've actually stopped The Ur-Dragon from killing two people with a Mirrorweave onto my Harabaz Druid. Normally I would have saved it for my Hagra Diabolist and blown up the table, but it felt like the right thing to do at the time. Other than that, Elvish Piper into Bane of Progress never fails to earn some groans.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Need Help Creating Izzet Chaos
    Hi guys,
    I'm working on an Izzet deck revolving around heavy draw, alt wins, and chaos. I already have Possibility Storm, Wild Evocation, Cowardice, and Psychic Battle, but what are some other global effect cards that could really ruin somebody's day while I draw to victory?
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Just For Fun: What is the Hardest You've Comboed Out in a Turn?
    I play a few decks that can pop off suddenly, like Kruphix, Ruric, and Tazri. For me, the craziest turn I've probably ever taken was dumping 60-75% of my creatures out through draw and Wild Pair in Ruric Thar. It required copious amounts of mana from Sakiko and Neheb, but the game immediately flipped from "ima kill you next turn because you can't block flying" to "alright, he just put 25 creatures out and can definitely block flying."
    Whabout you?
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on things you say to downplay a threat
    Most of the time I just complain the turn before I know I'm about to drop a potential bomb, like "man, I'm really stretched on mana." Or I'll pick up somebody's card (asking when necessary, mind you) and loudly exclaim "Woooooooww... That's crazy!" And promptly follow it up with potential combos that player might have to let everyone else know that someone has something far scarier than whatever I'm holding on to.

    It's all about being proactive.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Help Me Pick a Commander
    I actually play a Noyan deck, and though it is very fun, it's incredibly hard to maintain your board in anything other than a table of budget decks. Player's willing to buy Damnations and Path to Exiles are highly likely to have answers to you beefing your lands.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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