I am glad you talked about this. She has overperformed for me in testing for Standard Constructed in Arena, and I have also thought about her in cube due to so many powerful spells making her just as good in a solid control cube deck as constructed. Think she should be seriously tested by every cubist.
For example, at a total of 1UUU mana this card better be cryptic command or better, however it is not. Too many blue spells with UU in their cost to be reused in cube. The UU cost of this card is a serious weakness and that alone is the reason why I don't think it is 540 and less cubable. That extra colored cost is very real and plenty of cards don't make the cut for that reason alone at at 2 and 3 cmc (or similar triple mono-colored cost at 4-5 cmc).
If this card just had an ETB that said "draw a card", would you cube it? I would and that 1/4 body is pretty nice. The fact that board parity is not broken when you pump up one of your and one of their creatures makes her ETB good. You can also pump up two creatures at times to draw 2, so that is nice.
Teferi does absolutely nothing special and has no specific niche nor offers any archetype support.
I disagree. He is versatile and goes in both Midrange and Control shells. Who cares about niches when most of the cards we choose is based on power and value. What niche does FI go in? What about DS? SV is literally another wrath. Baloney. Plus Teferi does support ramp in its colors.
You can say the same thing for half of the WU Top 10. SV is just another wrath, boring. DS is a slightly better O-ring. Zzzzzz. Mage is a better Jellyfish. SR is an over-costed draw spell that works good in only control shells. The unique +1 and UA on a stick makes Teferi at least as interesting as Dragon and Spell Queller.
From a good stuff perspective, he is around 5th. The reason I brought up FI is the fact that I would not put another 3 drop over Teferi, I don't think SQ and DS are necessarily better anyways. FI directly competes with Teferi at 5 CMC, more so than the other WU cards and that is its biggest problem.
Would play Teferi over all these:
- Detention Sphere
- Dragonlord Ojutai
- Spell Queller
- Sphinx’s Revelation
I have no idea why people are downplaying this card. It is much better than Unraveler Jace. The bounce hitting any non-land permanent is huge, bouncing another PWer for example is really nice. The fact that you "Unexpectanly Absent" the permanent, gives you card advantage and three turns before you see it again. BTW, that same cost for UA is also 5 cmc, but with this card, you have a PWer left behind that can start ticking up next turn. Plus Oneing while drawing a card is good, but untapping of lands makes Teferi's +1 better than big Jace or Ob. It won't be uncommon to have a counterspell or removal up on the same turn and you get an extra draw to find something too. Teferi is artificially a 3 CMC PWer. I would play Teferi if Fractured Identity was not printed. This card is definitely testable and is probably the 5th best WU card. Also, he is better than Venser for sure, wtf Venser blows, only good for cute ETB shenanigans. I think LSV built an ETB deck once in MTGO cube and still did not take Venser saying it was that bad.
A turn 5 Damnation is worse than a turn 4 Damnation. The first counter won't do anything if you have no creature. This can be Disenchanted. Cute card, but it does not make the cut for me.
If I'm playing a reanimator deck, I think I'd rather see my target back in the grave than exiled for three turns.
That is a good point, if I'm playing a cheat deck with no graveyard synergies then Darigaaz is better, with graveyard synergies, Overlord is better. So the question is this: are your sneak, show, eureka, etc. decks using graveyard reanimation more than those using a ramp secondary theme?
Those cards are still good cube cards and do not change their quality too much despite losing a step. Superfriends do get a little bit better, and it was already good if you could pull it off/have the fixing. Is it time to add extra burn spells that hit PWers? I already play all 3 "Incinerates".
Certainly worth testing over Hellkite. Extra value with Sneak is nice and my cheat decks with green sometimes do have a ramp side-theme. For 1 less mana, 1/1 less in stats is a good trade. I don't ever remember regenerating the Hellkite.
I disagree. He is versatile and goes in both Midrange and Control shells. Who cares about niches when most of the cards we choose is based on power and value. What niche does FI go in? What about DS? SV is literally another wrath. Baloney. Plus Teferi does support ramp in its colors.
You can say the same thing for half of the WU Top 10. SV is just another wrath, boring. DS is a slightly better O-ring. Zzzzzz. Mage is a better Jellyfish. SR is an over-costed draw spell that works good in only control shells. The unique +1 and UA on a stick makes Teferi at least as interesting as Dragon and Spell Queller.
Would play Teferi over all these:
- Detention Sphere
- Dragonlord Ojutai
- Spell Queller
- Sphinx’s Revelation
That is a good point, if I'm playing a cheat deck with no graveyard synergies then Darigaaz is better, with graveyard synergies, Overlord is better. So the question is this: are your sneak, show, eureka, etc. decks using graveyard reanimation more than those using a ramp secondary theme?