Should I share the dream where I learned that the team was shadow/sheep/Regfan?
Vaimes, Sheep, Lissa are currently my strongest townreads.
I’m liking Regfan better since he’s got his head in the game. I’m still trying to do that. I’m kind of frazzled now because I haven’t even packed yet. I’m sure I will make up for that once I get back from my trip.
I think there almost always has to be mafia in the abstainers with how the game state feels atm. Would lynch Regfan last out of the 4 but I wouldn't be surprised if he's mafia with how little he's given to the game. Would be cool if Nancy and KJ started 1v1ing, maybe.
Not Voting - 4 (Regfan, Killjoy, Roz-the_eevee, Nancy Drew 39)
Vote Lissa
Why? This post makes no sense. You’re just basically throwing down a naked vote.
i cant confidently town read like anyone in my game...
here are some of my notes:
sheep somehow has 54 posts, but nothing of meaning...
killjoy is low posting, which can come from any alignment
also his post about being scum read was weird?
but I did like his RVS vote, reminds me of token mafia, but def not something I would say makes him lock!town, or even a decent town lean
shadow attacks me because im not spamming the thread
which is just bad (probably over exaggerating here, but its still bad)
gemma is the same as sheep, except she has some decent posts, but the rest are just garbage
and reachy
roz is gunna be a ***** to read
then nancy defends herself using someones meta from an ongoing game, and its ******* atrocious...
actually the only one I truly like is Lissa
but then lissa wants to town read nancy because hur dur, her posts just are so bad, that she must be town
so then that completely ruins my town read on lissa
rhand is doing rhand things (by this I mean, the same things that made me scum read him in Arkham...)
vaimes is probably scum
regfan is still inbetween
also regfans last post was 3 days ago...
wheat town reads me, but still questions my posts, which I actually like, I cant confidently say hes town, but hes looking good
well off to work now...
Why is Vaimes scum and how is Shadiw atting you for “not spamming”? and I’m not really liking your shade on Lissa or me. I have prior history with Lissa but not playing together but in the specific game she modded that I referenced. I frequently get very emotional in games and yes, it does trigger people but nothing seemed off about her reaction to me. I might not have liked what she said nor necessarily agreed with it but no way was it insincere. The main reason I was initially so suspicious of her was because I didn’t realy buy her push on me and had I not had a meltdown over it, I’d probably still be suspicious of her. I challenge you to review my interactions with her about that and show me how her reactions to me were fake.
I don’t think I fully realized at the time how problematic those posts of mine were. I wasn’t really thinking clearly at the time or else I never would have made them.
I'm mostly suspicious of Lissa rn. Mostly cause if they were town they would already post some post wich looks obviously townish.
They are not bad of a player, but theirs posts so far could come from any aligment and it's bothering me.
Plus they townread Rhand and are voting one of shadow's voters. So from theirs PoV it looks like they think it's T/T wagons. It is possible, but I would expect town Lissa to actualy take more initiative here to change a wagon target.
I'm mostly suspicious of Lissa rn. Mostly cause if they were town they would already post some post wich looks obviously townish.
They are not bad of a player, but theirs posts so far could come from any aligment and it's bothering me.
Plus they townread Rhand and are voting one of shadow's voters. So from theirs PoV it looks like they think it's T/T wagons. It is possible, but I would expect town Lissa to actualy take more initiative here to change a wagon target.
I think you’re wrong on Lissa. Her reaction to my freak out was as genuine af. I have nailed scum purely on tone but am much better at correctly reading townreads based on that. Her response to me, is not easily fakeable.
I kinda don’t like that Vaimes and reg share the same space in my head of “worry about later”. I kinda want to pick one before the end of the day to dig into, but also kinda think that comes with its downside.
Downside?
For Vaimes, he’ll get caught as scum, and he’ll get wagoned as town and end up being way to much of a focus early on. For reg, I don’t actually know how to read him. I’ve only ever played with him once before (the hydra game), and I spectated him in a scum game here, but like he’s gonna be an asset if he’s town.
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Nancy is like...focusing incorrectly. She doesn’t seem to have a feel for the heartbeat of the game at all. I know that’s not inherently a scum only trait, but it certainly feels like she doesn’t know how to insert herself into the game. I should probably go read her again in the other game she was in here before replacing out.
I kinda don’t like that Vaimes and reg share the same space in my head of “worry about later”. I kinda want to pick one before the end of the day to dig into, but also kinda think that comes with its downside.
Downside?
For Vaimes, he’ll get caught as scum, and he’ll get wagoned as town and end up being way to much of a focus early on. For reg, I don’t actually know how to read him. I’ve only ever played with him once before (the hydra game), and I spectated him in a scum game here, but like he’s gonna be an asset if he’s town.
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Nancy is like...focusing incorrectly. She doesn’t seem to have a feel for the heartbeat of the game at all. I know that’s not inherently a scum only trait, but it certainly feels like she doesn’t know how to insert herself into the game. I should probably go read her again in the other game she was in here before replacing out.
Lol, I never should have signrd up for that. I had absolutely no clue at all wtf I was doing and was in a really bad headspace at the time. I was so embarrassed about my horribad performances in that game, I almost didn’t sign up for this one. I didn’t even bother following it tbh. Did my replacement get mislynched? Did town win?
The entire back and forth between Lissa and Nancy is like never s/s; I would especially stake like 17 Doritos that that recent conversation always takes place in scum chat, and will clear the other if one flips scum.
Kinda dislike the Doritos thing here, feels like overselling the read given what it is. It's a... pretty straightforward/easy thought and I think that kind of thing, even in as silly of a form as this one, is much more intuitive to attach to something where there's even a little actual controversy.
so ignoring my hard tunnel on Gemma, and shadow for now, still think there is there is scum there, if not both
Nancy
using someone else to explain why something you did can be townie, just feels wrong, because then it just feels like you did it because it looks townie, but I could be completely wrong here
thanks to shadow for explain the full details of /barn
and anyone else that explained it
I agree with him in that Nancy/Lissa are probably never W/W, especially not with day chat...
Vaimes called Gemma a butt, hes lock!town :3
a point on Rhand, not that I support lurkers, but him, hopping in for only one or two posts is pretty normal, honestly even his rvs vote, and how he switched to Gemma feels like Rhand from Arhkam, but Ive never seen his scum!game, and thats meta (pure meta reads are meh), but I dont particularly think his posts sound scummy either
Shadow Can we like, talk about this? I have never once read lastwhisper and thought “you know what, that makes complete and total sense”, and I’m just not sure how town!Rhand (or much of anyone) could do that to this extent.
ya god forbid someone thinks I made a coherent thought...
I will have more time to post tomorrow and Weds, I will be around
I didn’t know what else to do because she was refusing to listen to anything I said.
i sort of dislike nancy drew's confidence on townread with me tbh
not really enough progression doesnt seem that natural, like i remember nancy drew going like "sheep having me as town is acceptable" sort of didnt really see her bringing me up again until she goes sheep never scum?
Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have said that. I constzntly get into trouble for doing that. What I should have said, is that your one of my strongest townreads. In no particular order, I’m liking you, Vaimes and LW for town. Lissa may possibly be town evehthough she’s being kind of nasty and I think unfair to me.
How exactly have I been nasty?
I am playing the game in a pretty normal manner, again, if you find someone not just blindly accepting the interpretation of/meaning of things you want them to to be nasty, you are going to have a bad time with werewolf/mafia, and also like, life.
If I felt the meta dive you were suggesting would be actually useful, I would have done it. I have no doubt that the person you were describing says that saying, I do not need to fact check that. It has no value to me beyond how you have talked about it, which is sadly villagery in an infuriating sort of way. I don't doubt that it is true or at least that you believe it to be and it doesn't really make a difference to me if it actually is. That person is not you. Declaring something to be blanket NAI because it is NAI for a single person is not... how it works. Not accepting that is not unreasonable or nasty or unfair. What it in particular is not is nasty; it is simply me playing the game, and you have a very odd definition of nasty if "playing the game in a way you don't like" falls under it.
The first part was in regards to the frustration I felt trying to explain to you, why I believed your push to be wrongeaded. The “nasty” part didn’t refer to your most recent post to me, sorry. It was probably an an overreaction at the time to getting the sense that my character had been called into question but nasty much more accurately refers to another player’s gameplay on here. I know now that I broke the rules with my recent games’ comment due to sheer frustration but if it ever comes down to something ever happening like that again, I’ll just have to accept being mislynched, should it come down to that.
I’m still not completely over my extremely upsetting choking in your July light game and just to be explicitly clear, that was always the issue - not being mistakenly wolfread or even meanness but my REACTION to it. That specifically has been marring my recent games because I don’t trust myself not to let it happen again. I literally was unable to play that game properly after those Acid comments. I still don’t even know why.
Starting my case on Gemma. I’ve noticed how she persists in twisting Rhand’s questions and tries to shade LW. Her posting style sttikes me as being highly manipulative. I’m not surprised by her response to me because she’s all too aware that won’t flybwith me.
This id just the first two pages but they sound so much worse on reread.
Vaimes
What is this light ping?
Why do you like Sheep?
Why are you nitpicking buddying vs pocketing?
@Vaimes: why are you not answering this?
I find myself agreeing with LW this game, which is weird
unvote
@Gemma: Have I played with you before? I think I have, but I’m not sure. Are you always this happy? And do you always buddy up to Regfan?
Hard unvote out of RVS is also >rand scum. Interaction with the hard unvote and the question to me looks like setting up a "peaceful encounter". In other words, agenda.
More importantly, these questions will generate alignment information 2.666% of the the time. Mischaracterizing my Regfan scumread as buddying is an attempt to give his questioning some manner of relevance that it entirely lacks.
You struggle to get a read on LW, but have nothing to say when I spoonfeed you his alignment. You're dead to me.
I don’t trust you.
And by not answering my questions bit just voting me instead, you’ve confirmed my gut.
vote Gemma
Also, I do think LW is town. The weirdness comes from previous experience.
This vote is fake because his suspicions were fake.
Villager Rhand: gosh, have I played with Gemma before? She sure is happy, and memeing in RVS, that's really suspicious, oh my god I knew it, she just ignored my questions and voted me, she's a wolf!
I don’t trust you.
And by not answering my questions bit just voting me instead, you’ve confirmed my gut.
I'm too happy to be town, yeah.
What about my other questions? I’m trying to get a hold on your meta.
This is an attempt to weave villager motivation into his questioning of me. If he were a villager, he wouldn't need to explain what he was doing. Because he is mafia, he feels the need to do so, for the sake of appearances.
Er, I wasn't answering your question there. I was agreeing with your logic, that there's no way I could be this happy as town, therefore I must be mafia.
Why do you think LW is town?
I think you can be happy as both alignments.
It’s your buddying and the amount of early reads you’re spewing that worry me more.
LW is probably town because of mindmeld.
Buddying didn't occur, isn't a thing this early in the game anyway, and any concern over my reads wasn't mentioned at all before now, because he's making this all up as he goes along. There is furthermore no mafia motivation for providing reads early in the game. In fact, there is a fair bit of mafia motivation for not providing reads early in the game. He hasn't talked about my mafia motivation, because he can't. I have none, and he knows it.
Mindmeld is an entirely nondescript reason to townread someone and contains no thought. Note his townread is now qualified by "probably". Mindmeld is a mafia favorite when it comes to townreading townies, because pocketing.
Rhand is mafia.
I will finish casing her ISO and finish my thoughts but I’m not at all liking what I’m seeing so far.
@Vaimes: can you quote the Nancy posts that you think are town indicative?
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The entire back and forth between Lissa and Nancy is like never s/s; I would especially stake like 17 Doritos that that recent conversation always takes place in scum chat, and will clear the other if one flips scum.
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Just for complete clarity, /barn is short for barnacle, basically to attach oneself to an argument or point but only freeload off of it without really adding anything yourself.
Also kind of townreading you, which means I'm back to hrming at Rhand.
I have vague feelings that he's cozying up to LW.
Can we like, talk about this? I have never once read lastwhisper and thought “you know what, that makes complete and total sense”, and I’m just not sure how town!Rhand (or much of anyone) could do that to this extent.
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@Gemma: FWIW I have wheat on the scum side of null, but I often throw unalignments in my notes, and sometimes drop them in thread. It’s especially helpful because I don’t particularly like to back read late in the game.
My current read on Nancy is "lol", hence her comfy home in the lolbracket.
Re: 216, tone deafness isn't something I typically attribute with villagers but I think the complete lack of recognition that I was trolling in my early posts is something that marginally feels town to me with the way she's put it there. I actually find myself believing that she did take me seriously as a person who really was trying to make people believe that she was town by calling herself confirmed town. And I'm not at all surprised that she might be on that level, given she's from MS. What clinched it though was the way that she talked up her town game. It doesn't feel intuitive for a level 0-1 scum player to go there in her second post of the game.
Okay, good to know, for once I didn’t misinterpret anything. Lol. Why aren’t you more interested in trying to sort me?
If you know my meta in the slightest, you’d know that I frequently get mistakenly scumread on D1. There is nothing wrong in finding a post “wolfy” but for you to place a bad vote on me based on on single post doesn’t really strike me as all that villagery.
What about the rest of my ISO, do you also find that wolfy as well? FYI, someone who I play a lot with on MS, frequently uses that expression, so I guess it kind’ve rubbed off on me and yes, that player was town in every single game I’ve played with them in. I’d be more than happy to give you a link to their ISO’s in their games if you like? I had this happen in another game I was in, where I got wrongly scumread for doing something very similar.
What do you think of Lissa voting me based on her not liking a specific expression that seems obviously to me - anyway NAi but ignoring the post you quoted?
These are posts that happened.
The whole "I'm just doing this thing a townie did", is like, level 0 scum process, and she's clearly not reading the thread given her question to me about you (and later about Rhand). The worst is the third, though, which is like, a completely transparent attempt to discredit Lissa and turn me against her.
But then her gross thing with Lissa happened and I think at this point she's playing on too many levels if she's mafia and I don't think she's capable of that so I pretty much just think she's town here most of the time. It's sort of unfortunate because she's never going to eat a nightkill and she's never going to be cleared and yet I think she's probably town and I just want nothing to do with her toxicity but there she is, inexorably a mafiascum player in this game.
So yeah my read on her is "lol".
Thanks for talking about me rather than addressing my posts directly. FYI, I don’t know wtf you’ve got against MS but they’re a helluva lot nicer to me over there. What exactly is “toxic” to you about fighting off what I perceive to be an, ill-thought out push on me? I’d like to also ask @Lissa that same question.
I don't believe I ever called you toxic. I just think you have a pretty bizarre and frustrating to work with perspective that massively lacks both self awareness and any awareness of other people's perspective and also seem to have a really, really self... focused/centric POV in terms of how you perceive things other people say about you, like you seemed to think me scumreading and voting you meant you were the overwhelming center of my universe. And you seem to take me not accepting your self-clear with someone else's meta/not interpreting what you posted how you wanted as like... some sort of personal affront.
No, that was Gemma. Thank you for at least being honest with me eventhough I feel it was unnessarily hardh. What I wanted to know was why was I getting raked over the coals to stop what I perceived to be a wrong push on me? What is so wrong with that? Aren’t villas supposed to try to avoid getting mislynched? *extremely confuzzled*
Nancy, I don't really want to spend my time explaining to you how your behavior is not okay, is not why I signed up for this game. I think you should start treating Lissa a little less like trash and a little more like you might treat her if she were a person in the same room as you.
And yeah, this is a forum game and sometimes there are reasons why I don't answer people's questions exactly when they want me to or in the way that they want me to. If you want me to meet you on equal terms, a good way to start would be to meet me on equal terms first, and actually come to me from an informed position rather than expect me to feed you what you want to know about my ISO.
Feel free to continue to be passive aggressive and hostile and I'll just ignore you and play the game with people who don't screw with my mental health.
Obviously you aren’t interested in answering my questions. At least Lissa isn’t playing games and at least respects me enough tobe honest with me.
When you decide to stop induldging in ******* character assassination, I will talk to you. Otherwise. I dont desire any further communication from you. Finally, I can see the fakeness that people were referencing. Don’t worry, I won’t be fooled again. Don’t even try.
@Vaimes: can you quote the Nancy posts that you think are town indicative?
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The entire back and forth between Lissa and Nancy is like never s/s; I would especially stake like 17 Doritos that that recent conversation always takes place in scum chat, and will clear the other if one flips scum.
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Just for complete clarity, /barn is short for barnacle, basically to attach oneself to an argument or point but only freeload off of it without really adding anything yourself.
Also kind of townreading you, which means I'm back to hrming at Rhand.
I have vague feelings that he's cozying up to LW.
Can we like, talk about this? I have never once read lastwhisper and thought “you know what, that makes complete and total sense”, and I’m just not sure how town!Rhand (or much of anyone) could do that to this extent.
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@Gemma: FWIW I have wheat on the scum side of null, but I often throw unalignments in my notes, and sometimes drop them in thread. It’s especially helpful because I don’t particularly like to back read late in the game.
My current read on Nancy is "lol", hence her comfy home in the lolbracket.
Re: 216, tone deafness isn't something I typically attribute with villagers but I think the complete lack of recognition that I was trolling in my early posts is something that marginally feels town to me with the way she's put it there. I actually find myself believing that she did take me seriously as a person who really was trying to make people believe that she was town by calling herself confirmed town. And I'm not at all surprised that she might be on that level, given she's from MS. What clinched it though was the way that she talked up her town game. It doesn't feel intuitive for a level 0-1 scum player to go there in her second post of the game.
Okay, good to know, for once I didn’t misinterpret anything. Lol. Why aren’t you more interested in trying to sort me?
If you know my meta in the slightest, you’d know that I frequently get mistakenly scumread on D1. There is nothing wrong in finding a post “wolfy” but for you to place a bad vote on me based on on single post doesn’t really strike me as all that villagery.
What about the rest of my ISO, do you also find that wolfy as well? FYI, someone who I play a lot with on MS, frequently uses that expression, so I guess it kind’ve rubbed off on me and yes, that player was town in every single game I’ve played with them in. I’d be more than happy to give you a link to their ISO’s in their games if you like? I had this happen in another game I was in, where I got wrongly scumread for doing something very similar.
What do you think of Lissa voting me based on her not liking a specific expression that seems obviously to me - anyway NAi but ignoring the post you quoted?
These are posts that happened.
The whole "I'm just doing this thing a townie did", is like, level 0 scum process, and she's clearly not reading the thread given her question to me about you (and later about Rhand). The worst is the third, though, which is like, a completely transparent attempt to discredit Lissa and turn me against her.
But then her gross thing with Lissa happened and I think at this point she's playing on too many levels if she's mafia and I don't think she's capable of that so I pretty much just think she's town here most of the time. It's sort of unfortunate because she's never going to eat a nightkill and she's never going to be cleared and yet I think she's probably town and I just want nothing to do with her toxicity but there she is, inexorably a mafiascum player in this game.
So yeah my read on her is "lol".
Thanks for talking about me rather than addressing my posts directly. FYI, I don’t know wtf you’ve got against MS but they’re a helluva lot nicer to me over there. What exactly is “toxic” to you about fighting off what I perceive to be an, ill-thought out push on me? I’d like to also ask @Lissa that same question.
i sort of dislike nancy drew's confidence on townread with me tbh
not really enough progression doesnt seem that natural, like i remember nancy drew going like "sheep having me as town is acceptable" sort of didnt really see her bringing me up again until she goes sheep never scum?
Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have said that. I constzntly get into trouble for doing that. What I should have said, is that your one of my strongest townreads. In no particular order, I’m liking you, Vaimes and LW for town. Lissa may possibly be town evehthough she’s being kind of nasty and I think unfair to me.
so ignoring my hard tunnel on Gemma, and shadow for now, still think there is there is scum there, if not both
Nancy
using someone else to explain why something you did can be townie, just feels wrong, because then it just feels like you did it because it looks townie, but I could be completely wrong here
thanks to shadow for explain the full details of /barn
and anyone else that explained it
I agree with him in that Nancy/Lissa are probably never W/W, especially not with day chat...
Vaimes called Gemma a butt, hes lock!town :3
a point on Rhand, not that I support lurkers, but him, hopping in for only one or two posts is pretty normal, honestly even his rvs vote, and how he switched to Gemma feels like Rhand from Arhkam, but Ive never seen his scum!game, and thats meta (pure meta reads are meh), but I dont particularly think his posts sound scummy either
Shadow Can we like, talk about this? I have never once read lastwhisper and thought “you know what, that makes complete and total sense”, and I’m just not sure how town!Rhand (or much of anyone) could do that to this extent.
ya god forbid someone thinks I made a coherent thought...
I will have more time to post tomorrow and Weds, I will be around
I didn’t know what else to do because she was refusing to listen to anything I said.
Essentially he made an unaligned read between me and shadow early in the game and in that post put himself outside his wolf range. He's not capable of making that read at that time, it would never even remotely enter his thoughtspace to make it more difficult for him to maintain wolfreads and tinfoil teams by making them unaligned if he's mafia. He dropped another unaligned read later between me/LW which just reinforces that as his process.
Add to that Regfan's townread, you don't ever have Regfan and me both miss on a strong townread on a player like sheep. And even if you think Regfan is mafia, he's never with sheep because he knows what sheep's stature is like as mafia and he wouldn't sink his endgame on that townread early day 1, not with me in the game. He would bus him and use the cred to push the rest of his team into endgame.
So there are basically just no worlds here where sheep is mafia and you can pretty much clear him, yeah.
Vaimes, Sheep, Lissa are currently my strongest townreads.
I’m liking Regfan better since he’s got his head in the game. I’m still trying to do that. I’m kind of frazzled now because I haven’t even packed yet. I’m sure I will make up for that once I get back from my trip.
Rhand, LW, Shadow, Wheat. Roz
Why? This post makes no sense. You’re just basically throwing down a naked vote.
I’m stil suspicious of you, yeah but trying to get my head in the game and sort out more players. Thoughts on Roz? LW?
Why is Vaimes scum and how is Shadiw atting you for “not spamming”? and I’m not really liking your shade on Lissa or me. I have prior history with Lissa but not playing together but in the specific game she modded that I referenced. I frequently get very emotional in games and yes, it does trigger people but nothing seemed off about her reaction to me. I might not have liked what she said nor necessarily agreed with it but no way was it insincere. The main reason I was initially so suspicious of her was because I didn’t realy buy her push on me and had I not had a meltdown over it, I’d probably still be suspicious of her. I challenge you to review my interactions with her about that and show me how her reactions to me were fake.
I don’t think I fully realized at the time how problematic those posts of mine were. I wasn’t really thinking clearly at the time or else I never would have made them.
I think you’re wrong on Lissa. Her reaction to my freak out was as genuine af. I have nailed scum purely on tone but am much better at correctly reading townreads based on that. Her response to me, is not easily fakeable.
Lol, I never should have signrd up for that. I had absolutely no clue at all wtf I was doing and was in a really bad headspace at the time. I was so embarrassed about my horribad performances in that game, I almost didn’t sign up for this one. I didn’t even bother following it tbh. Did my replacement get mislynched? Did town win?
The first part was in regards to the frustration I felt trying to explain to you, why I believed your push to be wrongeaded. The “nasty” part didn’t refer to your most recent post to me, sorry. It was probably an an overreaction at the time to getting the sense that my character had been called into question but nasty much more accurately refers to another player’s gameplay on here. I know now that I broke the rules with my recent games’ comment due to sheer frustration but if it ever comes down to something ever happening like that again, I’ll just have to accept being mislynched, should it come down to that.
I’m still not completely over my extremely upsetting choking in your July light game and just to be explicitly clear, that was always the issue - not being mistakenly wolfread or even meanness but my REACTION to it. That specifically has been marring my recent games because I don’t trust myself not to let it happen again. I literally was unable to play that game properly after those Acid comments. I still don’t even know why.
This id just the first two pages but they sound so much worse on reread.
I will finish casing her ISO and finish my thoughts but I’m not at all liking what I’m seeing so far.
No, that was Gemma. Thank you for at least being honest with me eventhough I feel it was unnessarily hardh. What I wanted to know was why was I getting raked over the coals to stop what I perceived to be a wrong push on me? What is so wrong with that? Aren’t villas supposed to try to avoid getting mislynched? *extremely confuzzled*
Obviously you aren’t interested in answering my questions. At least Lissa isn’t playing games and at least respects me enough tobe honest with me.
When you decide to stop induldging in ******* character assassination, I will talk to you. Otherwise. I dont desire any further communication from you. Finally, I can see the fakeness that people were referencing. Don’t worry, I won’t be fooled again. Don’t even try.
Thanks for talking about me rather than addressing my posts directly. FYI, I don’t know wtf you’ve got against MS but they’re a helluva lot nicer to me over there. What exactly is “toxic” to you about fighting off what I perceive to be an, ill-thought out push on me? I’d like to also ask @Lissa that same question.
Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have said that. I constzntly get into trouble for doing that. What I should have said, is that your one of my strongest townreads. In no particular order, I’m liking you, Vaimes and LW for town. Lissa may possibly be town evehthough she’s being kind of nasty and I think unfair to me.
I didn’t know what else to do because she was refusing to listen to anything I said.
I agree with what you said about sheep. No way sheep isn’t town here.