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STP do do da do do do
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STP!

Counterspell do do da do do do
Counterspell do do da do do do
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Counterspell!

Lightning Bolt do do da do do do
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Lightning Bolt do do da do do do
Lightning Bolt!

This can easily be solved if reliable answers from days of yore were reprinted with earnest. Remember M11 standard? Bolt was there. Were there any out-of-control decks at the time? Not that I can recall. At least they brought Disenchant back over Naturalize...

This is also a telling sign of the neglect WotC has put into the designing of standard-level sets and focusing too much on auxiliary products. But that's the result of having so many formats that require product support. They reap what they sow...

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Talk about wallet fatigue, product fatigue, and the never-ending hype train all you want.

If Gavin previews a fetch reprint, I’ll lead the parade through the streets.

Even if the fetchlands were the only things in the common slot, people here would still complain about how much of a rip-off the product is. These forums are a paradoxical mix of broke Commander players and friends of mtgfinance. There is no winning.

sadly that is correct

no matter how good reprints/cards and the set is this is exactly what will happen heck I even know they were complaining it was too weak before dominaria revist but you can't win now they complaining they are too powerful

also, I should point out and apologizes and no offense to some but I'm certain that some of the users complaining is intentional just for attention or/and to rile up people

you guys really do try to go a long way toward discrediting and ignoring any dissent when it comes to products.

its okay to be critical of these products, in fact a lot of the time its the only thing we really can do about them.

there have been plenty of sets that felt balanced. that felt like we were getting interesting, or powerful cards, in a decent mix with less interesting and less powerful cards. those sets felt fair and they felt like they were worth our time as well as our money. its easy to take complaints over a pushed card, or complaints over extremely weak cards and label it as the fault of the entire set. what's actually being criticized is the design, and in most case it isn't the person criticizing the design of a card that's criticizing the entire set but the people who see that complaint and throw up their hands saying no one will ever be happy. totally ignoring what people are actually unhappy about to fit their own narrative.

this set isn't even out yet. there are no spoilers yet. a few of you have already created this narrative that people are unhappy with the entire set for power reasons and reprints.

you've ignored what the complaint really is.

it has nothing to do with the power or lack of power with the set. it has nothing to do with the reprints here. we have no idea what those are. no one has said anything about those aspects of the set other than the few of you who are griping that people won't ever be happy.

the complaints levied so far are solely oriented around wallet fatigue and product bombardment. that's it. that's the complaint people have right now.

that's a legitimate concern. those voices should not be silenced by putting their criticisms under something they aren't even complaining about that you've instead manufactured yourself in this false narrative.

step back and think about the community you're creating because those kinds of attitudes go along way toward making actual discussion meaningless for many, and that in turn does make people walk away.