Are there ANY kicker cards worth using besides Phyrexian Scuta? They tend to overprice kicker costs for some reason. I'd like to see that mechanic pushed a little more.
Time will tell how effective these modular cards will be. Like mentioned above, if they go too far with them, they could break formats like companion did, so I appreciate the caution.
Is it possible we have a mirror of what happened post-mirrodin? After the power level of Eldraine, Theros 2.0 and some other sets last year, is Wizard's dialing it back to Kamigawa levels of card power?
I appreciate the ebb and flow of the game. I just hope MDFC's don't become a regular feature and turn the game into something else like pokemon. I have always hated DFC's and still don't play with any. I hope I can keep it that way.
If Zendikar has 350ish cards, there's either a ton of lands/artifacts/multi color cards or lotus cobra is probably not 193. That would be approximately 40-45 cards of each color and 150+ lands/artifacts/multi color. And no colorless spells, because those go first.
So what does it all mean.
Actually that seems about right at 193. If you take a look at say green from double masters green subsided in the 151-188 out of 332
this is 193/280 (280 cards in the set) and since the ordering is Colorless > WUBRG > Multicolor > Artifacts > Lands, and we can assume a few more green cards after that, we're looking at say 60-70ish Multicolor+artifacts+lands, which for a land themed set feels about right.
350 is a lot and tends to be reserved for sets like Double masters now (those numbers being a bit inflated by the glut of alternate art and special printing cards tied to the set). 270-280 is the normal range for a set like this.
My bad- good lookin out. So I guess these are legit.
If Zendikar has 350ish cards, there's either a ton of lands/artifacts/multi color cards or lotus cobra is probably not 193. That would be approximately 40-45 cards of each color and 150+ lands/artifacts/multi color. And no colorless spells, because those go first.
Talk about wallet fatigue, product fatigue, and the never-ending hype train all you want.
If Gavin previews a fetch reprint, I’ll lead the parade through the streets.
Even if the fetchlands were the only things in the common slot, people here would still complain about how much of a rip-off the product is. These forums are a paradoxical mix of broke Commander players and friends of mtgfinance. There is no winning.
sadly that is correct
no matter how good reprints/cards and the set is this is exactly what will happen heck I even know they were complaining it was too weak before dominaria revist but you can't win now they complaining they are too powerful
also, I should point out and apologizes and no offense to some but I'm certain that some of the users complaining is intentional just for attention or/and to rile up people
you guys really do try to go a long way toward discrediting and ignoring any dissent when it comes to products.
its okay to be critical of these products, in fact a lot of the time its the only thing we really can do about them.
there have been plenty of sets that felt balanced. that felt like we were getting interesting, or powerful cards, in a decent mix with less interesting and less powerful cards. those sets felt fair and they felt like they were worth our time as well as our money. its easy to take complaints over a pushed card, or complaints over extremely weak cards and label it as the fault of the entire set. what's actually being criticized is the design, and in most case it isn't the person criticizing the design of a card that's criticizing the entire set but the people who see that complaint and throw up their hands saying no one will ever be happy. totally ignoring what people are actually unhappy about to fit their own narrative.
this set isn't even out yet. there are no spoilers yet. a few of you have already created this narrative that people are unhappy with the entire set for power reasons and reprints.
you've ignored what the complaint really is.
it has nothing to do with the power or lack of power with the set. it has nothing to do with the reprints here. we have no idea what those are. no one has said anything about those aspects of the set other than the few of you who are griping that people won't ever be happy.
the complaints levied so far are solely oriented around wallet fatigue and product bombardment. that's it. that's the complaint people have right now.
that's a legitimate concern. those voices should not be silenced by putting their criticisms under something they aren't even complaining about that you've instead manufactured yourself in this false narrative.
step back and think about the community you're creating because those kinds of attitudes go along way toward making actual discussion meaningless for many, and that in turn does make people walk away.
Ok... but... hear me out- You don't HAVE to buy everything. This year, yeah, there's been a lot of product, but SO MANY reprints. Maybe I suck at EDH, but my best decks haven't changed in a WHILE - I don't feel the need to run out and get every new card that COULD fit in there. Legacy has stayed relatively similar, minus the normal shakeups from expansions, and the rest of the formats don't have any added stress due to products like Jumpstart, because new cards aren't legal there.
So yeah, it's a lot of stuff. And while most of us are in this hobby because we are collectors, I think the hobby itself has gotten so big, it's time to stop trying to get 4 of every card ever printed as a default- I gave up buying new stuff that I don't need just to have it. My collection has thanked me and gotten a lot sexier, now that I can buy a $100 reserve list card instead of a box of Jumpstart- I just needed to reframe how I collect.
If you're like me and have been playing for a while it's easy to remember the days of Big-Small-Small-Core sets in one year which was a LOT easier to "collect em all!" than it is nowadays. (I remember when Coldsnap was an "extra set" in the year- it was AWESOME having an extra thing to buy in between expansions)
You can't blame Wizards and Hasbro for making products to sell- that's literally what they're here to do. It's almost like saying "Damn this restaurant for having so many tasty things on their menu! Making me fat because I have to order my 7 favorite meals! How am I to sustain this!?!?"
Take a deep breath guys, buy more singles, have more fun with boosters, and just enjoy the game- I'm just thankful they haven't ruined it (yet).
More evidence of a hastily compiled product with nothing but a cash grab mentality.
Rosewater basically confirmed it with the "well we had a hole in the product line for the year" as in we can't go two months without gouging our customer base.
They just jammed some crap together and came up with a gimmick to try and sell it.
And doesn't this card have a religous connotation. Should'nt it be banned? <sarcasm>
Religious connotations aren't the reason for the bans before. So maybe you should go back and read the statement from Wizards again?
But yeah, it would be actually playable in vintage and maybe legacy in that case. Not sure if good, but playable.
Is it possible we have a mirror of what happened post-mirrodin? After the power level of Eldraine, Theros 2.0 and some other sets last year, is Wizard's dialing it back to Kamigawa levels of card power?
I appreciate the ebb and flow of the game. I just hope MDFC's don't become a regular feature and turn the game into something else like pokemon. I have always hated DFC's and still don't play with any. I hope I can keep it that way.
We got this far down before someone said Harry Potter for Strixhaven. Totally sounds like Harry Potter. Bet they even play Quiddich or whatever.
I am here for this Time Spiral. That was my favorite block of all time.
I wonder how these reprints will affect card prices.
My bad- good lookin out. So I guess these are legit.
So what does it all mean.
Because that would be a palatable secret lair name.
Ok... but... hear me out- You don't HAVE to buy everything. This year, yeah, there's been a lot of product, but SO MANY reprints. Maybe I suck at EDH, but my best decks haven't changed in a WHILE - I don't feel the need to run out and get every new card that COULD fit in there. Legacy has stayed relatively similar, minus the normal shakeups from expansions, and the rest of the formats don't have any added stress due to products like Jumpstart, because new cards aren't legal there.
So yeah, it's a lot of stuff. And while most of us are in this hobby because we are collectors, I think the hobby itself has gotten so big, it's time to stop trying to get 4 of every card ever printed as a default- I gave up buying new stuff that I don't need just to have it. My collection has thanked me and gotten a lot sexier, now that I can buy a $100 reserve list card instead of a box of Jumpstart- I just needed to reframe how I collect.
If you're like me and have been playing for a while it's easy to remember the days of Big-Small-Small-Core sets in one year which was a LOT easier to "collect em all!" than it is nowadays. (I remember when Coldsnap was an "extra set" in the year- it was AWESOME having an extra thing to buy in between expansions)
You can't blame Wizards and Hasbro for making products to sell- that's literally what they're here to do. It's almost like saying "Damn this restaurant for having so many tasty things on their menu! Making me fat because I have to order my 7 favorite meals! How am I to sustain this!?!?"
Take a deep breath guys, buy more singles, have more fun with boosters, and just enjoy the game- I'm just thankful they haven't ruined it (yet).
Edit... until you zoom in.
Religious connotations aren't the reason for the bans before. So maybe you should go back and read the statement from Wizards again?