If you believed the people who say this was a terrible rule change, then yes, Clones are worthless in every format imaginable. Apparently their sole purpose for existence was as a Hero's Demise.
Which means the following must be true:
1) These creatures are so good that we have to kill them, but not so good that we would want to have our own copy in play.
2) Hero's Demise is a format superstar (barring, of course, Geist and Thrun who have certainly gained some power).
Further limit copies of cards in your deck. Only allow one or two cards with 4x copies, then make the rest 2x and 3x sets to add some variety and lower consistency a bit. That lets you keep playing good decks without always winning - and keeps the games fresher with higher variety.
My deck isn't quite on the same level as yours. And again, we're talking HIGHLANDER. I'm not one of those "I've been playing since the beginning and I have a real job" kinda people.
Liliana isn't appropriate for your deck given the lack of reanimation. Olivia could definitely be right for you, however.
Yep, I've settled on just Olivia and will be shortly making a blog post about it! Thanks for the input though.
You mean just regular Highlander...without the Elder Dragon prefix? People still play that?
This one box single-handedly made up for the other...7 boxes...
What isn't shown is a foil Unburial Rites. The Mythic Dragon is also foil (0-3 getting mythic foils that are either Liliana/Garruk/Geist/Skaab - got Olivia, Angelic Overseer, and now Balefire Dragon).
Within the next week or so I might post my what's probably around 3000$ highlander deck. Yes, in our manly man's world, we play the manly format known to real men as Highlander. No garbage, no crying - take a stack of 100 cards and sling away 1v1.
Nice box. My jap foil rare was a Manor Gargoyle. =/ But my box was insane - 2x Snapcaster, Lily, Garruk, Skaab, Mikaeus, Olivia, 3x Duals, plus jap foil Diregraf Ghoul, Forbidden Alchemy, and Gatstaf Shepherd.
I'm excited to see your commander deck. I hope you've checked out my blog - sounds like we are on the same page as far as pimping AND playing is concerned. No crying in our group either, though we do usually play multiplayer still.
I still can't decide what to pick up for my Commander from Innistrad - I'm starting to lean towards nothing! Olivia is pretty sick though.
Alright, been playing with a couple decks whose creatures are all or near all DFCs.
Having THAT MANY checklists in a deck makes for a lot of difficulty.
1) Hard to go through and ensure there's the proper number of cards for each DFC. It is harder to count and track than normal cards.
2) You better trust who you're playing against. Real, real, real easy to put four Garruk checklists in an all DFC deck and only have two Garruks in your giant pile of DFCs. How is someone supposed to know you have four checklisted Garruk when there's only two in your pile. Even if they check and you say "Yeah, there's two" it is hard to go through the whole deck to check.
Also, is that what we are reduced to now? Going through each other's DFC decks and DFC piles and making sure everything is on the up and up?
Real easy to cheat. Real hard to verify
3) Ugly, ugly, ugly. Sorry, but part of the charm of magic is the illustrations and fantasy of the cards. A hand full of checklists is booooooring and ugly.
Conclusion: They should have at least offered the option of one sided versions or token-like cards for each DFC in addition to the checklist.
Why is it that you aren't just putting opaque sleeves on your decks full of DFCs? Seems like it would solve all of your problems.
Quick clarification - is your friday tournament a Standard FNM tournament? If so, you've got to update to the newest standard environment. Zendikar block rotated out.
If it's just a casual tournament where anything goes, then you won't need to worry about that.
If he's playing a mono-green deck, simply play Glissa, the Traitor. Unless he's packing Prey Upon, there's no way he can win the game with her on defense outside of a big Overrun.
Because having DFC's is more important to the game then being able to draft.
Seriously though can we now admit that DFC's were a mistake? No, probably not, as we are getting at least two more sets of them. Admitting it was a mistake will have to wait until after that I guess.
DFCs have literally nothing to do with this change. This change is related the amount of product allocated to stores and the new form in which prereleases are run.
Fairly certain it was Elspeth, Knight-Errant at the Shards prerelease. I had 2x Manaplasm and curving those into Elspeth to Angelic Blessing and beat for 8 in the air on turn 4 was pretty brutal.
Well, my main question about WotC was if they have higher prices for higher rarity when they sell them to retailers.
Also, if retailers really "increase the price and wait", how do they manage the thousands of cards that are available?
They cannot have a higher price for a higher rarity when they sell nothing of higher rarity. Wizards only sells sealed product. What is in the product is random based on distribution. There are no "rare" boxes that Wizards sells - sealed product rarity (and, more importantly, the associated price increase) occurs after a length of time has passed during which the supply decreases significantly faster than the demand, as the influx of new players and the tendency of players to hold on to cards rather than put them back into the market causes the demand to move much more slowly, and Wizards only prints a set number of runs of a product before it is no longer printed (thus no longer feeding the supply and allowing it to drop off).
I don't even feel like posting many pictures, if even at all, considering we lost like 400$ cracking product.
7 Boxes (4 russian, 3 japanese):
3 Snapcaster, 0 Liliana, 1 Garruk...with an average of 5 mythics per box...
Does liliana even exist? I have yet to actually see one IRL with all the packs I've seen opened - pre-release, release, prize packs, purchased packs, etc.
Yes, she does - I have 5, 1 Japanese.
That's too bad that your pulls weren't too great. I cracked one Japanese box and got at least double the value. 2x Snapcaster, Liliana, Garruk, Skaab Ruinator, 3x duals, and a bunch of rares. Pimp foils were Forbidden Alchemy, Invisible Stalker, Diregraf Ghoul, and Gatstaf Shepherd.
Which means the following must be true:
1) These creatures are so good that we have to kill them, but not so good that we would want to have our own copy in play.
2) Hero's Demise is a format superstar (barring, of course, Geist and Thrun who have certainly gained some power).
Yep, I've settled on just Olivia and will be shortly making a blog post about it! Thanks for the input though.
You mean just regular Highlander...without the Elder Dragon prefix? People still play that?
Nice box. My jap foil rare was a Manor Gargoyle. =/ But my box was insane - 2x Snapcaster, Lily, Garruk, Skaab, Mikaeus, Olivia, 3x Duals, plus jap foil Diregraf Ghoul, Forbidden Alchemy, and Gatstaf Shepherd.
I'm excited to see your commander deck. I hope you've checked out my blog - sounds like we are on the same page as far as pimping AND playing is concerned. No crying in our group either, though we do usually play multiplayer still.
I still can't decide what to pick up for my Commander from Innistrad - I'm starting to lean towards nothing! Olivia is pretty sick though.
Why is it that you aren't just putting opaque sleeves on your decks full of DFCs? Seems like it would solve all of your problems.
If it's just a casual tournament where anything goes, then you won't need to worry about that.
Yes. As long as the Battlesphere has infect before the ability resolves, all damage will be dealt as poison counters.
DFCs have literally nothing to do with this change. This change is related the amount of product allocated to stores and the new form in which prereleases are run.
"How much mana will you have left after paying for Seething Song?"
"Four red".
"Okay, Force of Will it."
Pretty sure that works pretty well for giving you enough turns to win and/or draw another counterspell.
They cannot have a higher price for a higher rarity when they sell nothing of higher rarity. Wizards only sells sealed product. What is in the product is random based on distribution. There are no "rare" boxes that Wizards sells - sealed product rarity (and, more importantly, the associated price increase) occurs after a length of time has passed during which the supply decreases significantly faster than the demand, as the influx of new players and the tendency of players to hold on to cards rather than put them back into the market causes the demand to move much more slowly, and Wizards only prints a set number of runs of a product before it is no longer printed (thus no longer feeding the supply and allowing it to drop off).
He said it wasn't dominant in his post?
Yes, she does - I have 5, 1 Japanese.
That's too bad that your pulls weren't too great. I cracked one Japanese box and got at least double the value. 2x Snapcaster, Liliana, Garruk, Skaab Ruinator, 3x duals, and a bunch of rares. Pimp foils were Forbidden Alchemy, Invisible Stalker, Diregraf Ghoul, and Gatstaf Shepherd.
Diabolic Intent might also be what you are looking for unless you are already playing it.