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  • posted a message on Embodiment of Agonies (Amaz Preview)
    It also looks like, judging by the example on the card, phyrexian Mana costs would also be different.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Embodiment of Agonies (Amaz Preview)
    If only this checked across all yards instead of only your own... would thar be too powerful Wink


    Well, now we know what the next -Goyf will be.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Embodiment of Agonies (Amaz Preview)
    Quote from Minoke »
    708.4b. The mana cost of a split card is the combined mana costs of its two halves. A split card's colors and converted mana cost are determined from its combined mana cost.

    Example: Assault/Battery's mana cost is {3}{R}{G}. It's a red and green card with a converted mana cost of 5. If you cast Assault, the resulting spell is a red spell with a converted mana cost of 1.

    Right from the rulebook - so Embodiment will see a split with a mana cost combined.


    Fair enough. I wasn't sure if they'd covered this. Thanks!

    Now it makes me wonder how long they've been sitting on a card like this. It's pretty unique.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Embodiment of Agonies (Amaz Preview)
    Split cards have one *CMC* in every zone except the stack, but this card is very clearly NOT checking for CMC per the parentheses text, hence my question. This is a whole new thing they're doing.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M20] Kethis, the Hidden Hand - One Hand in the Grave
    There's also Primevals' Glorious Rebirth as a crazy combo with Hermit Druid. Mana intensive to be sure but it'd surely be funny to do. Add in Akroma's Memorial for haste as well.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Embodiment of Agonies (Amaz Preview)
    Quote from Pants_On_Head »
    This is so bizarre...but it seems pretty good. Especially with the split cards and hybrid mana cards in standard, it's not really unreasonable for this to be a 3 mana 5/5 flying deathtouch as early as turn 4 or 5.


    Would split cards give two counters?

    And suddenly that funky overload discard spell from Horizons has a new purpose.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Agent of Treachery (Commanderin' podcast)
    I really wish this was a Wizard. Still, crazy fun with blink effects.
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  • posted a message on Core 2020 Name and Number Crunch
    Quote from AtraxianShade »
    Whelp, Cavalier of Dawn means no mythic mono-white angel...


    Maro said the Cavaliers would be a cycle.

    Wedge legends

    Mono planeswalkers.


    There’s 15, but Maro said there’s a twist elsewhere. So no mono white mythic angel at least.


    The twist was about the planeswalkers. It was the extra Chandras at Rare and Uncommon.
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  • posted a message on Mu Yianling, Sky Dancer NGA preview
    Quote from the n00b king »
    Quote from Buffsam89 »
    Quote from bravado1219 »
    Quote from Flamebuster »
    Saying that a card is bad is just as silly as saying a card is good at this point because we haven't seen it in play or in action yet. After that then arguments favouring either side are acceptable and more valid.


    'buster


    I don't disagree with this in principal, but it's also not absolute. We've been playing with a lot of these cards for a long time and understand how they interact. I would say--understanding there's more M20 to be spoiled that could change this--we can look at the meta and cards spoiled so far and can at least make an educated guess about a new card's power level.


    The current meta is an important qualifier here. Lost of cards in this meta will be gone come rotation, and this card has a full ~15 months to fill in somewhere. So, unless you have a crystal ball, you cannot speak in absolutes, one way or the other. Then combine that with -

    i mean this in the nicest way possible but the majority of you are quite terrible at evaluating cards.


    and your left with where we’re at now. At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter how good or bad a card is, people will still play it. Nobody is passing out medals to people who guess right about “trash tier” labels. It’s just nonsense and literally adds nothing to the discussion.


    I forgot this forum will close, but others will pop up and i'll show up there. I am not afraid of eating crow if I'm wrong, but i'm 100% sure I'm not.

    A lot of folks like to live in magical Christmas land and that's fine. But to argue that this card is good is only to delude one-self. Hell, spend your hard earned dollars on playable stuff. This card fits in zero archetypes. Creatures are too good these days that giving one -2 power really doesn't do anything.

    The difference with Sarkhan is staggering.

    1) Sarkhan makes your other planeswalkers into threats immediately
    2) The 4/4 dragon actually kind of has text because if you attack the walkers, it will deal one damage to your guys. It's not great, but it's something
    3) Sarkhan will essentially win you the game over 2 turns. This card, does not.

    Tapping your lands to draw card is good, but if you get to a point where you can do that AND cast spells, you've already won the game.

    My point is that folks tend to over evaluate cards at the onset without thinking of how they can be applied in existing archetypes. Sure, there'll be rotation in October (4 months from now), but you got a LOT of magic to play between then and now. And at this stage, the card is unplayable.

    Additionally, I'm not sure why it's an issue to express an opinion to what appears to be the popular opinion? I provide reasons why i think this card is bad and what to be shown scenarios (applicable ones) where it is good and no one has done this. No one has shown me an existing deck that wants to play this that is better than anything else they can play in that spot.

    Is this a site where we can have meaningful discussions or just be fan boys that can't handle constructive criticism?


    One thing you're missing (or ignoring) is that it's pretty damn obvious that no one before your initial post in this thread was talking about this card in a competitive light. No one even mentioned the word until your post #35, and really only one post before that hinted at any sort of competitive viewpoint.

    Not everyone is going to like or rate cards because they play well competitively.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Leyline of Abundance (MovistarESports preview)
    Quote from thatmarkguy »
    Quote from Mishotem »
    Quote from thatmarkguy »
    Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura, get off the bench! We're puttin' you back on the roster!

    Now it's just a T2 infinite. T0 this, T1 Breeding Pool and Birds of Paradise, T2 Breeding Pool, one of those auras, and you have one spare floating mana to activate the Aura and go infinite.


    Throw in Urza and an Ornithopter for t3/t4 redundancy. All you need then is an outlet for all that green mana. Helix Pinnacle? Smile


    This is the outlet, too. You use all that green mana to put a million counters on your birds/thopter and swing.


    Crazy.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Leyline of Abundance (MovistarESports preview)
    Quote from thatmarkguy »
    Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura, get off the bench! We're puttin' you back on the roster!

    Now it's just a T2 infinite. T0 this, T1 Breeding Pool and Birds of Paradise, T2 Breeding Pool, one of those auras, and you have one spare floating mana to activate the Aura and go infinite.


    Throw in Urza and an Ornithopter for t3/t4 redundancy. All you need then is an outlet for all that green mana. Helix Pinnacle? Smile
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  • posted a message on Yarok The Desecrated (MTGGoldfish preview)
    Aminatou is jealous.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Masterful Replication (Esports Gazzeta preview)
    End of opponent's turn, all your artifacts become Karnstructs? I think that'd work, right?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Goyf in m20
    Where is the pic from?
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Mu Yianling, Sky Dancer NGA preview
    Urza makes artifacts tap for U, Yanling makes islands tap for cards. Blue seems to have some real boundary issues.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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