@amicdeep:
Isn't using 5 lands that come into play tapped a bit much for this deck, whose greatest strength comes from its speed? Cycling also costs 1 mana, which for our deck is still a significant amount of mana you're not spending on creatures/pump spells or holding up for Vines etc. I would also personally play 3-4 Rancor instead of 2, but I think that's more of a personal preference and/or local meta choice.
@omer301:
If you want to know about certain tricks and tips, look in the Card Choice section of the primer on page 1. With every card, I've written useful information about that card and how it interacts in certain situations. I know I'm the one who made the primer, but I greatly recommend looking through it!
Thank you so much for replying, and yes I have read your guide and its incredibly useful. I was just asking in case he might have covered something or discovered something you haven't already mentioned since the list is quite different compared to what I've seen. Also, savage swipe is a card that isn't in your primer but is included in the list. Have you tried this card out? Lastly, what do you think is the most optimal fetch less build at the moment?
i've uped the land count slightly in the mono-budget version of the deck (sits around $80 on tcg)
the resons for this are 4 fold
first Tranquil Thicket is a really good card, and being able to cycle instant speed in the late game or having a tapland in the early game is pretty solid.
second the deck can play the better pump spell in vines over blossom (blossom is better in hyper aggro but vine is better with a larger manabase)
third playing steel leaf constantly is much less of an issue
forth Hexdrinker provides a very good way to sink mana in the mid-late game, soloing as you have the mana to make it work
cuts
1 eone, with the meta how it is dryad militant is needed and is the best turn one play, hexdrinkers are both one drops early and huge wincons late game. while eones are solid turn 1-2s but terrible top deck late game.
pump spell for another savage swipe. basically swipe is a slow pump spell that also acts as removal for a lot of the meta with your onedrops without loosing them (bob, snapcaster, thalia, meddling mage, spell queller, goblin guilds ect, are all now solid removal targets off of our pump spells.
you could probably drop a cycle land or oasis for another of the other, or another forest without much worry, (its something that will have to tested to be shore of )
but this should be a pretty optimal budget build.
Damn, thanks a bunch, its quite a different list as you have a 23 land mana base. Also, no pelt collector huh. I know this is a pretty simple and linear deck but over the course of playing this deck, have you come across any tips/tricks regarding the deck? Like using Vines on an opponents creature.
How about Rise from the Tides as a win condition?
Looking at some of your cards other cards you have a lot of clones. Keiga, the Tide Star seems fun, just sacrifice the legendary cloned copy to steal their creatures
Thanks for the suggestions, which cards do you recommend I swap out for those two cards? Also, any other changes?
Hi, I'm fairly new to MTG (Started like a month ago) and got my first commander deck last week. My friend sold me most of the components for the deck and I had some cards lying around. This is what I've come up with and it isn't really that good and I would like some help improving the deck. Also, here is a list of all the mono blue cards I currently have List of cards
Decklist:https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/need-help-baraltalrand-deck/
The group I play with is mostly casual. Some of the commanders I've seen were Atraxa, Aminatou, Breya, Meren of Clan Nel Toth, Saheeli, Animar, Mizzix, Phelddagrif, etc
Budget would be less than $5 per card preferably. I am trying to be as budget as possible and trying to work with the cards I currently have
Lastly, I want to know of deck win conditions, currently just know of token generation with talrand and counter spell spam
Thank you so much for replying, and yes I have read your guide and its incredibly useful. I was just asking in case he might have covered something or discovered something you haven't already mentioned since the list is quite different compared to what I've seen. Also, savage swipe is a card that isn't in your primer but is included in the list. Have you tried this card out? Lastly, what do you think is the most optimal fetch less build at the moment?
Damn, thanks a bunch, its quite a different list as you have a 23 land mana base. Also, no pelt collector huh. I know this is a pretty simple and linear deck but over the course of playing this deck, have you come across any tips/tricks regarding the deck? Like using Vines on an opponents creature.
Thanks for the suggestions, which cards do you recommend I swap out for those two cards? Also, any other changes?
Decklist: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/need-help-baraltalrand-deck/
1x Aligned Hedron Network
1x Baral's Expertise
1x Baral, Chief of Compliance *CMDR*
1x Blighted Cataract
1x Brainstorm
1x Cancel
1x Capsize
1x Chaos Wand
1x Clash of Wills
1x Clone
1x Coastal Breach
1x Commit / Memory
1x Confirm Suspicions
1x Control Magic
1x Counterspell
1x Crush of Tentacles
1x Cryptic Serpent
1x Curse of the Swine
1x Deny Existence
1x Desertion
1x Disallow
1x Disdainful Stroke
1x Dismiss
1x Dissolve
1x Essence Scatter
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Flood of Recollection
1x Insidious Will
33x Island
1x Jace Beleren
1x Jace's Sanctum
1x Memorial to Genius
1x Mind Stone
1x Mind's Dilation
1x Negate
1x Niblis of Frost
1x Opt
1x Overwhelming Denial
1x Plea for Power
1x Ponder
1x Preordain
1x Primal Amulet
1x Prism Ring
1x Pull from Tomorrow
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Rewind
1x Saheeli's Artistry
1x Scatter to the Winds
1x Scourge of Fleets
1x Serum Visions
1x Sol Ring
1x Sphinx of Magosi
1x Sphinx of the Final Word
1x Sphinx's Tutelage
1x Stormtide Leviathan
1x Stunt Double
1x Swan Song
1x Syncopate
1x Talrand, Sky Summoner
1x Torrential Gearhulk
1x Treasure Cruise
1x Turn to Frog
1x Unsubstantiate
1x Unwind
1x Vizier of Many Faces
1x Wash Out
1x Worn Powerstone
The group I play with is mostly casual. Some of the commanders I've seen were Atraxa, Aminatou, Breya, Meren of Clan Nel Toth, Saheeli, Animar, Mizzix, Phelddagrif, etc
Budget would be less than $5 per card preferably. I am trying to be as budget as possible and trying to work with the cards I currently have
Lastly, I want to know of deck win conditions, currently just know of token generation with talrand and counter spell spam
Thank you very much for the help