The problem with stealing cards, is that they dont do enouf for you usually. If a whole deck is build around a certain ability, you can steal a few.cards from they that wont do alot for you since your not build around it. Sure if you steal a spell that was gonna kill you allthen you win the game.
But that wouldnt be a fun way for him to win the game, nor will it be a fun game for you to win.
Sure stealing an eldrazi and hitting them in the face with it is fun, but what are you gonna steal agianst an token deck or agianst edric small evasive creature deck.
Plus playing with your opponents cards is not what they like seeing. A guy at my fnm insta scoops the moment you steal his commander just so you dont get to use it, even for 1 turn
It also depends alot at what fnm place you play.
I moved 2 weeks ago and started playing at a diffrent fnm area.
Before i would win 20-30* of the time and adjust my decks to that.
Nothing to strong or oppresive.
At the new location, i havnt won yet or even come close to being the leader at the table at any given time.
They used way more expensive cards at the other fnm store, but here everything in the deck serves the purpose of making the deck work as best as possible. At the old fnm store i felt people added alot more good cards instead of going for the rough cards that make you win earlier.
Im in the proces of finding new decks/strategies, but ive been playing for 2 years only so im also searching premade decks, testing them online and seeing what works and what doesnt.
Im the ignorant player on the post above me
Kinda liking the concept of grenzo.
Just not have infinite or near infinite combos.
Is grenzo any good without the infinite combos?
I can understand it is alot less strong but my FNM, and tbh myself, doesnt like infinites combos.
Yeah i started this thread thinking id write it about the salt and what to do incase it happens. But didnt know for sure if i was at fault or if he was just targetting me
Ye. Thats also a smart option. Casting a second spell in my priority like bandage, preventing 1 dage and drawing a card. And when that resolves i can make it indestructable. Thanks that makes alot of sense
Alright. So sneaking in an indestructable spell after a boardwipe of yourself is not possible, that makes the indestructable spell a huge waste if the boardwipe gets countered. Good to know, thanks.
We dont really pass priority when we cast spells but just ask if anyone wants to response to it.
Not sure if i want to introduce that priority passing and possibly ruin the casually way we play. But it would be helpfull for my learning if i ever decide to play competitive
In advance, im not english raised so there will be some/alot of typos.
I was playing edh today with my feather the redeemed deck and a player got really salty with me because in his head i played wrong, so id like to explain them here and see if i played them right.
1st thing:
Played a boardwipe, blasphemous act. When no1 countered it and every1 said ok i said in responce ill made my commander indestructable with a 1 plains instant.
2nd thing:
Other player then mr salty tried to destroy 3 non creature cards with that 9/9 green creature that gives you a 3/3 elephant. He targetted my aria of flame with 5 counters on it. Then something of another opponent, that player picked up a token and put his card in gj. Then thought for 5-10 seconds and said he didnt wanna target another target. I said in responce ill play 3 instants and it turned out to be enouf damage from aria to kill the 9/9 creature playing owner so the other player had to put his card back from gj.
These were both in the same game in witch i was going pretty well, drawing the right answers and ended up winning the last game of the night (after losing 4 games).
He got real salty after it saying that he didnt like me and after asking him he said it was because of above 2 examples.
He said because the other player already put his card in his gj, i was to late to respond to it (he said that after the game, not during)
And we didnt discuss the first example because i didnt wanna escalate it further and just appoligized saying that ive been playing for half a year now and still make mistakes and it was my second fnm playing this deck.
I know every1 gets salty every now and then and its rough if certain cards you play dont get any value while others do. But my deck was mostly derping around the other games while he was pretty strong.
I can understand he doesnt like playing agianst my deck cause it has alot of answers on target destroy cards and some other effects, but it wasnt happening the preveous games, plus hes playing a ninjiutsu deck where he was burning every1 for up to 13 damage some turns so i didnt interfere with his plan at all night.
Alright. Ive switched the commander out for the commander who can counter stuff with menace. Still really strong but i get less hated for it.
Im still the archenemy if i get a few mana rocks going but i dont feel like such a dick for it
Wew. Just had my first fnm night, i get why the deck is called why i have no friends. Hot damn was i archenemy nr1 at every table.
Not 100% sure this is my cup of thee but it sure is strong. Not alot of interaction with other players but ita diffrent then im used to play
Thanks for the elaborated response. Gives me something to think about. Imgonna start using your deck. Just spend 1200 euro on cardmarket. Thinking of buying a mischras toy workshop and letting my wife alt it into a mischras workshop
Cant look at the decklist on my phone since its to far to the right so might name some cards that are already in.
I like the interaction between karn silver and the cards that makes everything an artifact. Then with carn you can pay 1 mana and destroy an enemy land.
You can pull that combo by copying 1 wishcounter with rings.
Also, it that betrays works really well with our commander and all is dust
Heya, liking this deck but i dont like infinite combos.
Kinda new so would like to ask what cards are in the deck for sole reason to combo with so i can remove those and add more other creatures or protection or haste givers?
Yeah, i have a few of those players at the fnm where i go to, they say they have a mid power deck and win on turn 3, turn 5 if they get bad cards. And then hold their wincon in their hand saying, i wont win yet. Not fun at all. I avoid them haha, dont like infinite combos anyway
Ok, ive read the guide and its pretty awesome. The commander guild only talks about giving enemies hippos to attack each other and playing cards that give enemies attackinv you with your hippos bad value.
This was a nice read, thanks. I will play a bunch with the 3 decks amd then see what style i like and maybe use your budget version
Tbh i dont think i could pull your deck off yet.
When i have a removal spell i want to play i usually ask the players what i should remove it on, who is the biggest treath ect. Maybe in a few months of actively playing.
Ive also been practicing playing magic through the webcam on discord. Its pretty fun
But that wouldnt be a fun way for him to win the game, nor will it be a fun game for you to win.
Sure stealing an eldrazi and hitting them in the face with it is fun, but what are you gonna steal agianst an token deck or agianst edric small evasive creature deck.
Plus playing with your opponents cards is not what they like seeing. A guy at my fnm insta scoops the moment you steal his commander just so you dont get to use it, even for 1 turn
I moved 2 weeks ago and started playing at a diffrent fnm area.
Before i would win 20-30* of the time and adjust my decks to that.
Nothing to strong or oppresive.
At the new location, i havnt won yet or even come close to being the leader at the table at any given time.
They used way more expensive cards at the other fnm store, but here everything in the deck serves the purpose of making the deck work as best as possible. At the old fnm store i felt people added alot more good cards instead of going for the rough cards that make you win earlier.
Im in the proces of finding new decks/strategies, but ive been playing for 2 years only so im also searching premade decks, testing them online and seeing what works and what doesnt.
Im the ignorant player on the post above me
Just not have infinite or near infinite combos.
Is grenzo any good without the infinite combos?
I can understand it is alot less strong but my FNM, and tbh myself, doesnt like infinites combos.
We dont really pass priority when we cast spells but just ask if anyone wants to response to it.
Not sure if i want to introduce that priority passing and possibly ruin the casually way we play. But it would be helpfull for my learning if i ever decide to play competitive
I was playing edh today with my feather the redeemed deck and a player got really salty with me because in his head i played wrong, so id like to explain them here and see if i played them right.
1st thing:
Played a boardwipe, blasphemous act. When no1 countered it and every1 said ok i said in responce ill made my commander indestructable with a 1 plains instant.
2nd thing:
Other player then mr salty tried to destroy 3 non creature cards with that 9/9 green creature that gives you a 3/3 elephant. He targetted my aria of flame with 5 counters on it. Then something of another opponent, that player picked up a token and put his card in gj. Then thought for 5-10 seconds and said he didnt wanna target another target. I said in responce ill play 3 instants and it turned out to be enouf damage from aria to kill the 9/9 creature playing owner so the other player had to put his card back from gj.
These were both in the same game in witch i was going pretty well, drawing the right answers and ended up winning the last game of the night (after losing 4 games).
He got real salty after it saying that he didnt like me and after asking him he said it was because of above 2 examples.
He said because the other player already put his card in his gj, i was to late to respond to it (he said that after the game, not during)
And we didnt discuss the first example because i didnt wanna escalate it further and just appoligized saying that ive been playing for half a year now and still make mistakes and it was my second fnm playing this deck.
I know every1 gets salty every now and then and its rough if certain cards you play dont get any value while others do. But my deck was mostly derping around the other games while he was pretty strong.
Not sure if it matters but the deck is roughly a budget version of:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-04-19-some-deck/
I can understand he doesnt like playing agianst my deck cause it has alot of answers on target destroy cards and some other effects, but it wasnt happening the preveous games, plus hes playing a ninjiutsu deck where he was burning every1 for up to 13 damage some turns so i didnt interfere with his plan at all night.
Im still the archenemy if i get a few mana rocks going but i dont feel like such a dick for it
Not 100% sure this is my cup of thee but it sure is strong. Not alot of interaction with other players but ita diffrent then im used to play
I like the interaction between karn silver and the cards that makes everything an artifact. Then with carn you can pay 1 mana and destroy an enemy land.
You can pull that combo by copying 1 wishcounter with rings.
Also, it that betrays works really well with our commander and all is dust
Kinda new so would like to ask what cards are in the deck for sole reason to combo with so i can remove those and add more other creatures or protection or haste givers?
This was a nice read, thanks. I will play a bunch with the 3 decks amd then see what style i like and maybe use your budget version
Tbh i dont think i could pull your deck off yet.
When i have a removal spell i want to play i usually ask the players what i should remove it on, who is the biggest treath ect. Maybe in a few months of actively playing.
Ive also been practicing playing magic through the webcam on discord. Its pretty fun