Adding in more cavern seems to be a way to go since we're becoming more open to human creatures at the cost of mana stability against wasteland and moon affects. Im running 1 cavern in my decklist now and im thinking of going up to two once i get more money. That decklist looks good!
Hey guys, interesting deck! Coming from a D&T boards I noticed we use a card called Palace Jailer. I was wondering with the monarch mechanic in play, how does that work with solitary confinement? Would it be worth it to find cards that make you the monarch to counteract the discarding? I havent had the chance to look to see if there are artifact/ enchantments which make you the monarch besides palace jailer.
Not sure if this will work at all, but has anyone thought of a way to use palace jailer's monarch with solitary confinement? We have the tutoring recruiter and enlightened tutor.
@themanonline- Yeah I figured that its best to at-least force the BR animator guy to play around karakas while i draw for answers. I think i may side in more gy hate.
Nice report kat. I was thinking of running a palace jailer and maybe putt in gisela for a beat stick.
Im also thinking of main boarding relic warder as well since i have equipment decks and enchantments to kill in my meta.
It is odd. I typed that part a bit fast and tbh my memory is a bit hazy. I know he played a pithing needle off his own wasteland and before it resolved.. i tapped his flooded. The guys i was playing is one of my good friends and he didnt get much sleep so i think he made a mistake or two. I dont see how i could have won the match either, but that misplay really cost him. I wastelanded the flooded the next turn and he was left with a wasteland while I got ahead. The burn player confused me as well in game 1 because he said he kept a really good hand and was banking on another red source of mana. I wasnt sure why he didnt just use his red and cast an instant anyway. Then again I dont know what he had in hand.
he then plays a wasteland and plays pithing needle and names rishadan port and passes. EOT I tap down his flooded and to my surprise he doesnt crack it.
If he needled your Port, how'd you tap down his fetch?
I mean, with a misplay like not cracking his fetch when you tapped it, and the rest of your hand and your description I'm sure you would've won anyway, but that struck me as odd.
And the burn player not playing anything in response to you porting his land was also odd.
I'm seriously considering running a farie mac and two surgicals. question though, how do i get past a chancellor trigger on opening hand? I kind of want to go leyline of the void but i dnt like playing dead draws in a mono white deck.
So heres a quick overview. First legacy tournament outside a couple of times playing 3 or 4 prelease drafts.
Match 1 : U/W stoneblade 2-0
My friend and buddy running this deck and it was interesting since we were learning both our decks. We both play a home brew of junk maverick of sorts so we know eachothers new decks well.
G1- Im on the play and i manage to land an aether vial. I keep my hand with rishadan port, thalia 1.0 and draw into a waste land. I eventually lock him out with thalia and killing his no basic. He draws more lands but by time he does its too late.
I'm not sure how to side board yet but i bring in a pithing needle to name either his fetchs or his top. not sure if thats the right call- he appearantly boards in his pithing needle as well.
G2- I'm on the draw. i have mom, wastland, port , 1 plains, aven mindcensor stoneforge, thalia... Im not sure if thats the hand i want to keep against that kind of deck but i roll with it to learn. First turn I put down mom and he promptly force of willed it, pitching ponder i think. He draws and puts another land down and passes turn. I draw and play port. I try to cast thalia, and it gets FOW. I pass turn. he plays a flooded strand and passes. I draw and play my own pithing needle and name divining top and play a plains.I pass turn. On his upkeep i asked if he was doing anything he said, no. So To my surprise he does not crack the fetch land yet. he then plays a wasteland and plays pithing needle and names rishadan port and passes. EOT I tap down his flooded and to my surprise he doesnt crack it. I see this and know i can now kill his flood with my wasteland. I play waste land and kill his tapped down fetch. At this point he and I realize he wont be able to win the game and after a few more rounds of landing beaters, and a thalia 1.0 he conceeds.
Match 2- BURN 2-0
I win the play roll and go on the play.
I keep a hand with mom, vial, thalia, sfm, rishadan port, flicker, and plains. I play plains, vial and pass.
he plays mountain grim lavamancer and passes. I draw, play port and pass. On his turn I decide to port him on his upkeep. He doesnt draw a second land and ends main. End of his turn I activate vial and put in mom. I tick up vial to 2 and draw plains. I play land and vial thalia 1.0 now that i have mom. I pass and I port him on upkeep. He doesnt draw land again and proceeds to end turn. EOT I vial in SFM and get a batterskull. I tick vial to 3 on my upkeep and draw a Sword of fire and ice. I start swinging and from here on he is to far behind. He scoops a few rounds later. Later after our game he had the perfect kill hand and was banking on 2 mana. He just didnt draw land.
Out
-1 Brimaz
-1 mirran
-1 spirit
-1 aven
In
+1 COP RED
+1 Absolute law
+1 enlightened tutor
+1 RIP ???--- I wasnt sure how to board but i figured no gy for lavamancer might be worth a shot.
G2 Hes on the play I draw a no colored hand but it has enlightened tutor with wasteland and fill in land (kor haven) since i forgot to sleeve up cavern from my other deck. I decide to mulli rather than bank on drawing white mana. I go to 6 anad have 3 plains and a port with sfm and plow. Not the best i guess but i kept and scryed a port on top, i decided i wanted a t1 drop so i put it on bottom.
We start-
Plays a mountain and passes to me
I draw into a mom luckily and pay my plains and mom and pass. Eot he bolts mom.
He plays mountain and suspends a rift bolt. passes to me.
I dont remember everything else from here but he gets me down to 8 and i stabilize from there after landing a drawn absolute law with mom and sfm on the table. He drew lands and mana flooded for the rest of G2. I kill him with my little guys within a few turns.
Match 3 - BRU Animator 0-2
G1
I loose the play and keep a hand with some basics plow, mom, vial and sfm.
T1 he combos out into sire while also revealing a the beginning achancellor of annex. I decide to play it out to learn and see how br animator plays. I loose a few turns of sire beating my face.
Out
-1 batteskull
-1 sfm
-1 brimaz
-1 revoker
IN
+1 containment priest
+1 enlightened
+2 RIP
G2
I'm on the play but i have karakas so i decide to keep a hand with basics , sfm, plow and karakas.
We start and he reveals chancellor.
I made a mistake i think and played karakas too early. I pass thinking that might buy me some time.
He combos into chancellor and now i have to pay 2 for first cast and 1 more after. Stops me cold from using swords to plow.
He passes to me and i decide if i want to pitch sfm. i made another mistake and dont pitch it to the trigger holding off a potential grisel. He beats my face with chancellor and rips my hand with some discard. I play it out and loose after 3 turns of annex beating face.
Its this kind of mu i feel like surgical and maybe farie with leyline of the void might be in sb for gy hate. RiP feels really slow. Then again I dont know much about legacy to understand what to keep and what not to keep.
round 4 Eureka Omnitell- 0-2
G1- hes on the play
I dont remember the games well from this one but basically he plays a show and tell turn 2 with a petal for accel. Plays omni and plays griselbrand. From there its gg.
I carried alot of main board hate with spirit, ethersworn, and aven.
Out
-1 brimaz
In
+1 cataclysm
( In retrospect I should have sided in the containment priest. though i think it was more likely he was going for omni)
G2 I manage to wasteland and rishadan port him down and try to recruit grab ethersworn or prelate or thalia 1.0. It got countered by fow. From there it was a matter of time. I even end up with revoker off of a vial on a lotus petal at some point, but he just kept getting land off of cantrips and did show and tell into omni. Couldnt quite close the noose. emerakul came out and beat face.
Summary- 2-2-0
As a beginner I have to say I love D&T. Theres so many things you can do with the deck and I feel that some matchs i have a chance to win once i learn the cards more and pilot better. Ive been wanting to build this deck for a couple of years now. I met some cool guys and they were helpful and showing me legacy and telling me about the different decks and cards out there. There was another D&T guy there and he was cool enough to show me his build which wasn't too far off mb from mine. Helped me out alot with what to play and do for certain things. Suggested probably path to exile, another ethersworn and sword of war and peace for the sideboard. We discussed the merits of palace jailer and I think I'm gonna try that. Overall a really fun deck and one im happy to play.
Played BR reanimator as well in the shop fnm. went 2-2. Will post details later. my reanimator opponent had chancellor and insane t1 plays. Not much I could do. trying to see if i should split my 2x rip in the side to a relic of progenitus and rip.
What do we have against Br reanimator? The deck is too fast for the 2cmc answers we usully have (rip and priest)
Played against BR for the first time at a 1k on the weekend...
G1 He's on the play and reveals double chancellor then reanimates a sire of insanity.
G2 I get t1 relic followed by t3 RIP and win
G3 He t1's tidespout w/ chancellor backup.
Deck is a beast and it seems to have a pretty high percentage of T1s. I'm going to try out at least 1 fairie, might switch my relic for a grafdiggers cage too
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This is the deck list that i have now. I dont have much experience in legacy and i used to pilot a scrappy junk blade deck.
I am missing sanctum prelate, and can only afford 1 at the moment. I cant get a horizon canopy but i can switch out the korhaven slot for a mikkokoro since i have a spirit main board. Only own 1 cavern but i dont want to get to far off mana base as that is something i want consistency on. I'm caught on runing either 2 or 3 recruiters. I like having answers and i have seen aven work well in some MUs. I really have a hard time cutting the serras but i think i should just put in more better sb options. I am playing a heavy burn meta so i might get kor firewalkers possibly. We'll see how testing goes. So far on cockatrice its been working well against br reanimator with 4 wins in a row... and some success against patriot delver. I think im gonna probably cut the mirran crusader and serra avengers even though they're excellent beat sticks. I need good clocks though and evasion while keeping the mana curve low.
Hey guys. long time admirer of death and taxes. I finally decided to make the jump from a maverick gate deck over to D&T. I completed the initial deck. I'd post a deck list here but im not sure how. Anyways I'm gonna try to run it in the local shop here and come back with some results. Reading your discussions has proven very educational. Special thanks to Finn for coming up with the deck.
I'm a big fan of the soccer brand umbro. So I decided to draw a playmat for magic. I had the playmat made on inked gaming and they did a fantastic job of it. I recommend them for making custom mats if you want!
When a face down creature leaves the battlefield, it must be turned face up. After that, there is no effect that turns it back face down, so it will return to the battlefield face up.
Nice report kat. I was thinking of running a palace jailer and maybe putt in gisela for a beat stick.
Im also thinking of main boarding relic warder as well since i have equipment decks and enchantments to kill in my meta.
So heres a quick overview. First legacy tournament outside a couple of times playing 3 or 4 prelease drafts.
Match 1 : U/W stoneblade 2-0
My friend and buddy running this deck and it was interesting since we were learning both our decks. We both play a home brew of junk maverick of sorts so we know eachothers new decks well.
G1- Im on the play and i manage to land an aether vial. I keep my hand with rishadan port, thalia 1.0 and draw into a waste land. I eventually lock him out with thalia and killing his no basic. He draws more lands but by time he does its too late.
I'm not sure how to side board yet but i bring in a pithing needle to name either his fetchs or his top. not sure if thats the right call- he appearantly boards in his pithing needle as well.
G2- I'm on the draw. i have mom, wastland, port , 1 plains, aven mindcensor stoneforge, thalia... Im not sure if thats the hand i want to keep against that kind of deck but i roll with it to learn. First turn I put down mom and he promptly force of willed it, pitching ponder i think. He draws and puts another land down and passes turn. I draw and play port. I try to cast thalia, and it gets FOW. I pass turn. he plays a flooded strand and passes. I draw and play my own pithing needle and name divining top and play a plains.I pass turn. On his upkeep i asked if he was doing anything he said, no. So To my surprise he does not crack the fetch land yet. he then plays a wasteland and plays pithing needle and names rishadan port and passes. EOT I tap down his flooded and to my surprise he doesnt crack it. I see this and know i can now kill his flood with my wasteland. I play waste land and kill his tapped down fetch. At this point he and I realize he wont be able to win the game and after a few more rounds of landing beaters, and a thalia 1.0 he conceeds.
Match 2- BURN 2-0
I win the play roll and go on the play.
I keep a hand with mom, vial, thalia, sfm, rishadan port, flicker, and plains. I play plains, vial and pass.
he plays mountain grim lavamancer and passes. I draw, play port and pass. On his turn I decide to port him on his upkeep. He doesnt draw a second land and ends main. End of his turn I activate vial and put in mom. I tick up vial to 2 and draw plains. I play land and vial thalia 1.0 now that i have mom. I pass and I port him on upkeep. He doesnt draw land again and proceeds to end turn. EOT I vial in SFM and get a batterskull. I tick vial to 3 on my upkeep and draw a Sword of fire and ice. I start swinging and from here on he is to far behind. He scoops a few rounds later. Later after our game he had the perfect kill hand and was banking on 2 mana. He just didnt draw land.
Out
-1 Brimaz
-1 mirran
-1 spirit
-1 aven
In
+1 COP RED
+1 Absolute law
+1 enlightened tutor
+1 RIP ???--- I wasnt sure how to board but i figured no gy for lavamancer might be worth a shot.
G2 Hes on the play I draw a no colored hand but it has enlightened tutor with wasteland and fill in land (kor haven) since i forgot to sleeve up cavern from my other deck. I decide to mulli rather than bank on drawing white mana. I go to 6 anad have 3 plains and a port with sfm and plow. Not the best i guess but i kept and scryed a port on top, i decided i wanted a t1 drop so i put it on bottom.
We start-
Plays a mountain and passes to me
I draw into a mom luckily and pay my plains and mom and pass. Eot he bolts mom.
He plays mountain and suspends a rift bolt. passes to me.
I dont remember everything else from here but he gets me down to 8 and i stabilize from there after landing a drawn absolute law with mom and sfm on the table. He drew lands and mana flooded for the rest of G2. I kill him with my little guys within a few turns.
Match 3 - BRU Animator 0-2
G1
I loose the play and keep a hand with some basics plow, mom, vial and sfm.
T1 he combos out into sire while also revealing a the beginning achancellor of annex. I decide to play it out to learn and see how br animator plays. I loose a few turns of sire beating my face.
Out
-1 batteskull
-1 sfm
-1 brimaz
-1 revoker
IN
+1 containment priest
+1 enlightened
+2 RIP
G2
I'm on the play but i have karakas so i decide to keep a hand with basics , sfm, plow and karakas.
We start and he reveals chancellor.
I made a mistake i think and played karakas too early. I pass thinking that might buy me some time.
He combos into chancellor and now i have to pay 2 for first cast and 1 more after. Stops me cold from using swords to plow.
He passes to me and i decide if i want to pitch sfm. i made another mistake and dont pitch it to the trigger holding off a potential grisel. He beats my face with chancellor and rips my hand with some discard. I play it out and loose after 3 turns of annex beating face.
Its this kind of mu i feel like surgical and maybe farie with leyline of the void might be in sb for gy hate. RiP feels really slow. Then again I dont know much about legacy to understand what to keep and what not to keep.
round 4 Eureka Omnitell- 0-2
G1- hes on the play
I dont remember the games well from this one but basically he plays a show and tell turn 2 with a petal for accel. Plays omni and plays griselbrand. From there its gg.
I carried alot of main board hate with spirit, ethersworn, and aven.
Out
-1 brimaz
In
+1 cataclysm
( In retrospect I should have sided in the containment priest. though i think it was more likely he was going for omni)
G2 I manage to wasteland and rishadan port him down and try to recruit grab ethersworn or prelate or thalia 1.0. It got countered by fow. From there it was a matter of time. I even end up with revoker off of a vial on a lotus petal at some point, but he just kept getting land off of cantrips and did show and tell into omni. Couldnt quite close the noose. emerakul came out and beat face.
Summary- 2-2-0
As a beginner I have to say I love D&T. Theres so many things you can do with the deck and I feel that some matchs i have a chance to win once i learn the cards more and pilot better. Ive been wanting to build this deck for a couple of years now. I met some cool guys and they were helpful and showing me legacy and telling me about the different decks and cards out there. There was another D&T guy there and he was cool enough to show me his build which wasn't too far off mb from mine. Helped me out alot with what to play and do for certain things. Suggested probably path to exile, another ethersworn and sword of war and peace for the sideboard. We discussed the merits of palace jailer and I think I'm gonna try that. Overall a really fun deck and one im happy to play.
I thought about composing a magic the gathering theme.
I am missing sanctum prelate, and can only afford 1 at the moment. I cant get a horizon canopy but i can switch out the korhaven slot for a mikkokoro since i have a spirit main board. Only own 1 cavern but i dont want to get to far off mana base as that is something i want consistency on. I'm caught on runing either 2 or 3 recruiters. I like having answers and i have seen aven work well in some MUs. I really have a hard time cutting the serras but i think i should just put in more better sb options. I am playing a heavy burn meta so i might get kor firewalkers possibly. We'll see how testing goes. So far on cockatrice its been working well against br reanimator with 4 wins in a row... and some success against patriot delver. I think im gonna probably cut the mirran crusader and serra avengers even though they're excellent beat sticks. I need good clocks though and evasion while keeping the mana curve low.
1 cavern of souls
1 kor haven
1 flagstones of trokair
3 Karakas
9 Plains
4 Rishadan Port
4 Wasteland
Creatures 26
3 Flickerwisp
1 aven mindcensor
1 ethersworn canonist
1 Mangara of Corondor
1 Mirran Crusader
4 Mother of Runes
2 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Recruiter of the Guard
1 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
4 Stoneforge Mystic
1 spirit of the labyrinth
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Æther Vial
1 Council's Judgment
1 Enlightened Tutor
2 serra avenger
1 circle of protection: red
1 absolute law
1 sword of light and shadow
2 rest in peace
1 Pithing Needle
1 containment priest
1 cataclysm
1 flickerwisp
1 mirran crusader
1 recruiter of the guard
Thats going to be a lot of fun.
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