Quote from MTG_Bob »A recent $1k in my area was won by Mono Red Phoenix. There were 2 of the Pyromancer decks in the T8, a BG Rock, Devoted Devastation, Thopter Sword, and 2 UR Phoenix. I haven't seen the results of one from yesterday and we have a $5k coming up in a few weeks that I'd be interested in playing in if I believe I can get a shot at a T16.
I've been seeing an increase in Tron at the weekly tournament. Is Tajuru Preserver a worthwhile SB card for us in that matchup, and if so, what do we pull?
*Edit* Eldrazi Tron won this weekend's $1k. I'm thinking that Tajuru Preserver will be a great help against All is Dust, since that is the only board sweeper they run.
Quote from MTG_Bob »I've been trying to outrace them as much as possible. I think with the Bridge from Below banning, my area will go to even more Infect/Burn/UW Control then before since there won't be as much of a need for graveyard hate. Perhaps it is time to shelf Elves again until they come up with something that makes them truly impressive once again? Which sucks, I enjoy playing the deck and they aren't played locally by anyone else.
Quote from MTG_Bob »I'm running pretty much the same list Simon DS posted last, but I'm not making headway. I'm not running the Peatlands, since I already own a playset of the Woodland Cemetery, but other than that deck is the same.
The current meta in my area is heavy Infect, followed by UW Control and Burn/Mono Red Phoenix. I can't seem to even get started before I'm either dead or they control the board state. Any suggestions?
Quote from thesedaiv »Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis i saw. As this deck uses LOTS of green. And possibly black, and it poops oit creatures, would this be an affective beatstick?
Quote from Melves72 »I am looking at 2 cards. One for the side and one for the side/main
This last is Icon of Ancestry
is an artifact at cost 3 that is not removed by mass removal, allow to filter the best creature etc.
I would test it in the spots of lead the stampede
Only for the side I would test Thought Distortion
It is a non counterable sorcery that, if we are able to solve in the 3/4 round totally destroy decks like
UWx control, storms, tron etc.
Moreover, there is leyline of the void. It is not new. But I am very happy to see its re-print
Quote from drew02k »How bad is mono-red phoenix for this deck and strategies or cards do we play to help with it?
Quote from coastiemike »Here’s my list. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-06-17-fWM-gb-elves/#c3509441
Is Nurturing Peatland needed in this list? I’ve been trying to figure what I would pull out to add it and nothing really jumps out.
Quote from Farodin666 »@Simon DS nurturing peatland is great. I fear taking too much damage when drawing too much. Having some burn, mono red phoenix, 8whack and some other aggro decks in meta. I really understand to maximize on them.
what's your take on sideboarding against phoenix?
Planning to playtest a lot this weekend against my ur phoenix friend who´s won the bye for gp frankfurt in germany.
Quote from FoodChainGoblins »I also assumed that you had "Burn type decks" in your meta, so I didn't question the 3 Nurturing Peatland. In that case, I personally do believe that 3 is correct. You don't ever really want 2 of those out as your only lands ever. I have felt that pain before, mostly with Devoted Druid Company.
Me personally, I'd side my 2 Dismember and my 2 Surgical Extraction. I personally don't think that Damping Sphere does enough and it further waters down Company, which I hate, hate, hate to take out ever.
My current SB is
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2 Shaper's Sanctuary2 Heroic Intervention1 Fracturing Gust2 Dismember2 Surgical Extraction1 Scavenging Ooze1 Essence Warden2 Reclamation Sage2 Damping Sphere
I know for sure this is not the best current SB. I personally would make sure every deck I play runs 2-3 Ravenous Trap, as the Hogaak Vine deck is insane. I'm not sure what else I'd do to reconfigure the SB, as I don't play Elves regularly. I usually play the other 2 decks or Humans.
I guess I should clarify that the first 4 cards should not be necessary in a GP meta. My meta has tons of people trying to interact, although occasionally those people "disappear" and it becomes not so much like this.
Quote from Farodin666 »@foodchaingoblins
RG breach is difficult for elves. g1 you can race them, but g2/3 is too much mass removal. Have an urge to play thoughtseize again for combo and those decks.
Maybe a good call for the london mulligan ruling.
Funny note: last tournament I got the t3 kill against storm and g2 he fizzled his combo and I won that matchup. He has the best score overall the tournament results right now.
What are your thoughts on the nurturing peatland amount? I think i go for 3.
Mainboard pretty hoogland list. I like beast whisperer, but I want to play more aggressive with clancallers
2 reclamation sage
1 collector ouphe (want not more because i want to keep rec sages against some prison decks in meta)
3 damping sphere
3 dismember (tried out trophies, but dismember is better against phoenix. its liek carddraw for them)
2 thoughtseize (combo)
1 lead the stampede (decided to have 3 in my deck, the canopy land should be compensate the cut of 1 of them)
2 surgical extraction (only gy deck, I dont side in against phoenix)
1 scavenging ooze (third ooze in the deck.. think its fine over other options)
Yesterday I trained against ur phoenix and had beaten a local guy. talked about sideboarding and went with this:
+3 damping sphere
think it may be the best sideboarding plan with this configuration. what do you think?
Quote from timvanderlinden »Thanks Simon DS!! And congrats on your win.
I'll definitely consider your recommendations. I hate to cut my Nettles. But maybee we should for consistency indeed.
Quote from Fossil Firebird »Here's my current Elf deck (I call it "The Mother of All Elf Decks" on TappedOut). I was waiting to rebuild it after Modern Horizons came out, hoping that Elves would get some love. Sadly, they did not. I still want to build Elves, but not sure which way to go at the moment. I'm thinking of mainboarding Heroic Intervention as the deck's most serious weakness is to board sweeps—now, of course, it bounces back better than most from that, but it's still a consideration. An early sweep is far more troublesome than a later one, and Heroic would fairly easily negate that. I used to run Lead the Stampede, but ended up going with an experimental build in Genesis Wave. This has won me games (though I have yet to tournament test it) many times: X=7+ is absolutely savage and easy to manage. Hits lands, creatures, and if Akroma's Memorial comes with it (or I have already put it out), everything can go that turn. They can attack with flying, vigilance, trample, protection, etc., then all tap for mana to fuel Ezuri's power.
The idea was to have redundant win conditions. Marwyn, a very underappreciated card, has my favorite Elf art and is also a mana-producing wincon-enabler, and can herself turn into a wincon as she powers up. Of course, Ezuri is the classic method of Elves getting so strong they tear planes in half and beat opponents with each piece. Joraga Warcaller is also another great mana sink, especially with Cavern, and also further enhances Marwyn. I can hard-cast Akroma's Memorial or get it off of a Genesis Wave, and it also turns my Elves into beaters even without EZ E.
Winding Way now merits some consideration, and the sideboard definitely needs help here. I'm not sure what to sideboard. Damping Sphere and the like, I think, but I wanted to sort out the main 60. I've considered Primal Command both for grave hate and for getting its other uses.
I'm also thinking it needs at least one Boseiju, Who Shelters All, to help punch through those critical Waves and CoCos against control.
At any rate, fellow Elves, I would welcome thoughts, suggestions, and green mana!
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Creatures (33)4 Llanowar Elves4 Elvish Mystic4 Heritage Druid4 Joraga Warcaller4 Dwynen's Elite4 Elvish Archdruid4 Marwyn, the Nurturer4 Ezuri, Renegade Leader1 Reclamation SageInstants (4)4 Collected CompanySorceries (3)3 Genesis WaveArtifacts (2)2 Akroma's MemorialLands (18)4 Cavern of Souls14 ForestSideboard (15)2 Beast Within4 Heroic Intervention2 Natural State2 Reclamation Sage2 Relic of Progenitus2 Sorcerous Spyglass1 Tajuru Preserver