Quote from boombox_smk »Quote from Tiro of Meletis »Boreal elemental not being a Snow Creature really hurts.
I had the same feeling.
Quote from Tiro of Meletis »Boreal elemental not being a Snow Creature really hurts.
Quote from Buffsam89 »
That’s not exactly the case here, not in the slightest, really. There are people here from all walks of MtG life, be it casuals, EDH buffs, modern players, standard die-hards, and just general enthusiasts that see these cards however they deem fit. Not one person said “OMG, THIS WILL BREAK STANDARD” so, to me, that doesn’t warrant a “WTf, you guys suck at evaluating cards, it’s unplayable trash”.
IMHO, at no point should the words “unplayable” pop up during spoiler season, unless the card is mechanically broken. You make yourself look like quite a fool when, in fact, all cards get played to some degree. Nobody is hurt by somebody saying “cards good, could be played with X,Y,Z, I’ll play it”, etc. However, by throwing the “trash” label into cards, people will become defensive, and rightfully so. You don’t know any better than I do whether the card is good or bad, so why even say something baseless like that? It halts all relevant discussion and turns into the BS that was flagged with red text. For what? A tire pump? A feeling of superiority? “Good” is a pretty subjective term, bad/garbage/unplayable really aren’t.
As for your meta example, they are constantly evolving. Besides that, a very small sliver of the MtG populace actually compete at high levels and “net deck” their strategies. For Joe Blow, this could very well be the card to make his deck win at his LGS. Or maybe it makes its way into a sideboard somewhere.
I get it, people only want to play with the most proven strategies, but those aren’t the only strategies. We’ve seen it countless times, where a jank homebrew succeeds at dethroning the “known” meta.
TL;DR: I just don’t see the point in negative comments during spoiler season. If the cards not for you, great, move along. No reason to try and “flex” your MtG acumen in an online forum. Because really, nobody values your opinion more than you will, and that goes for everybody. But saying “Hey, I’ll play this card” does nothing more than make it known that it will, in fact, be played.
Quote from italofoca »
There is always cards that slips everyone's radars and cards that people hype that don't see any play. It's always like this because cards can only be evaluated in a vacuum but whether or not they see play depends on what will be released in the future and how the environment shapes up. It even depends on out-of-the-game factors like how much people are spending in the game.
You can't use playability to measure quality because playability depends on many factors other then quality. Your claim that this card does not see any play in any of the current meta decks is futile for many, many reasons: (i) the current meta is not solved; (ii) this card is not part of this format; (iii) no one can predict how the meta shifts with a new set with any degree of certainty, this is hard fact of reality; (iv) even if you could, M20 is not fully spoiled; (v) there are local variation of meta, even in high level competition, and you can't possibly account for all this.
It's not people that are bad at evaluating cards, it's just that they don't use your evaluation criteria because it is useless.
Quote from Ryder052 »Actually the last thing I'd see her in is aggro. She buys you time when she hits the field, makes big birds when you need them and has a gamewinning ult if you let her stick for 3 turns. At 3cmc, this screams slow blue midrange or control.
To everyone who says she's not competitive, how many 3cmc walkers have ever been printed who can close to win the game with their ult AND get to activate it relatively early? Liliana, the Last Hope comes close, but Mu is better at it.
Quote from Flamebuster »Saying that a card is bad is just as silly as saying a card is good at this point because we haven't seen it in play or in action yet. After that then arguments favouring either side are acceptable and more valid.