Hi patbou_clone, i've red what you wrote in previous messages. I strongly agree with 99% of what you wrote, but i think that rally the wings can really be a new way of winning the match. Of course, you need the white mana, and this means having 6-7x of gemhide/manaweft, in order not to change the land.
But i think you know a lot better than me the pratical problems a sliver deck must face; for the first time i correctly read the Sidewinder sliver, and only now, after years, i undestand that if you've 3 slivers, enemy creature get -3-3. This is amazing.
I agree as well on the problem of Virulent Sliver that is, most of the time, just a plan B. Sidewinder can easily become the new one-drop.
I've created the same deck of your,except for the cavern of souls (no money), but i'm disappointed that we cannot use Collected Company. In some way, i'd like to put in the deck the already-quoted 6-7x of manaweft/gemhide, in order to cast the collected.
thank you for your posts, i really learnt a lot of this deck by reading them
My opinion on your deck is that, playing only creature, and not even playing a necrotic sliver, if they cast something like Ghostly prison, you just lose the game without doing anything. Yes, you've Spiteful Sliver and 2x Lavabelly Sliver but you cannot count just on these cards.
If you really want to play just creature, i'd add 4xdiffusion sliver and 2x necrotic sliver, just in case you've to destroy something.
I don't know. With Descendants' Path you're not sure you're going to have a new card in your hand/battlefield and if you do, it's just one. With Lifecrafter's Bestiary, if you've a gemhide in the battlefield you can cast and pay that green mana, and repeat the process, if you've other creature. Of course, you pay more, but you've more
i see your point, metallic mimic could be really slow, by not buffing other on field slivers. Maybe it could be good with spells that remove our slivers from the game and make them come back, i don't know.
BTW, since a lot of decks (mine included) have 4x Galerider Sliver and 4x Cloudshredder Sliver, i'm starting using Rally of Wings. For 2 manas, you can untap all slivers, and if you have Gemhide or Manaweft, you can tap them again for mana. Moreover, it is very useful when attacking with all your creatures and biting the opponent. Let him/her attack with all his/her creatures and then, untap all of your...with +2+2.
What do you think about this card? Sometimes, for me, it has been a victory card.
Fireball can be used even on our Spiteful Sliver, if we have 2 of them on the field, meaning the double of the damage on the opponent.
Moreover, i want, but i know it's very slow, create a sliver deck with card like:
Ghostly Prison + Dormant Sliver, so we can focus on drawing a lot of card, and creating the mana for the combo above.
I've seen that no one talk about Basal Sliver, that, with 4-5 slivers on the field, tapped with Manaweft sliver can produce 15 mana. Has this combo any chance to win, by using Fireball, or you think that's impossible?
MOREOVER, in a fast sliver deck, why don't you use metallic mimic? It is not a true lord, since he doesn't boost immediately, but he puts +1+1 counter, and you don't lost them when he goes into graveyard
But i think you know a lot better than me the pratical problems a sliver deck must face; for the first time i correctly read the Sidewinder sliver, and only now, after years, i undestand that if you've 3 slivers, enemy creature get -3-3. This is amazing.
I agree as well on the problem of Virulent Sliver that is, most of the time, just a plan B. Sidewinder can easily become the new one-drop.
I've created the same deck of your,except for the cavern of souls (no money), but i'm disappointed that we cannot use Collected Company. In some way, i'd like to put in the deck the already-quoted 6-7x of manaweft/gemhide, in order to cast the collected.
thank you for your posts, i really learnt a lot of this deck by reading them
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/autodiscard-card-sliver/
It uses Dregscap sliver + Screeching Sliver + Intruder Alarm + Experimental Frenzy and it works pretty cool, but i don't know how to make this fast. Any idea?
If you really want to play just creature, i'd add 4xdiffusion sliver and 2x necrotic sliver, just in case you've to destroy something.
Generally, i think your deck is slow: you don't have aether vial, collected company, and you've just 4x Manaweft sliver, but this is just my opinion ^^.
Sometimes i think that this deck cannot draw enough creatures, still having a lot of mana to spend. What do you think?
BTW, since a lot of decks (mine included) have 4x Galerider Sliver and 4x Cloudshredder Sliver, i'm starting using Rally of Wings. For 2 manas, you can untap all slivers, and if you have Gemhide or Manaweft, you can tap them again for mana. Moreover, it is very useful when attacking with all your creatures and biting the opponent. Let him/her attack with all his/her creatures and then, untap all of your...with +2+2.
What do you think about this card? Sometimes, for me, it has been a victory card.
I really liked the Sliver deck of patbou_clone, due to its speed.
But i wonder: is it possible to play a "combo" sliver with Basal Sliver + Fireball and Blasphemous act + Spiteful Sliver?
Fireball can be used even on our Spiteful Sliver, if we have 2 of them on the field, meaning the double of the damage on the opponent.
Moreover, i want, but i know it's very slow, create a sliver deck with card like:
Ghostly Prison + Dormant Sliver, so we can focus on drawing a lot of card, and creating the mana for the combo above.
I've seen that no one talk about Basal Sliver, that, with 4-5 slivers on the field, tapped with Manaweft sliver can produce 15 mana. Has this combo any chance to win, by using Fireball, or you think that's impossible?
MOREOVER, in a fast sliver deck, why don't you use metallic mimic? It is not a true lord, since he doesn't boost immediately, but he puts +1+1 counter, and you don't lost them when he goes into graveyard