- Bojuka Bog: I think you are right and i will try it.
- Blooming Marsh: I can understand the worry, especcialy regarding the fact, that we do play a high curve, so i will try to cut the 2 Blooming Marsh for Bojuka Bog and probably the 9th Fetchland.
- Kalitas: I do not like to build up synergies on the board, if you know what i am trying to say. I like Baneslayer Angel and Thragtusk because they are great on their own, gain life and fight aggro beat down.
- Surgical Extraction / Extirpate: I think they are worse against Hogaak / Dredge then Nihil Spellbomb. Spellbomb can stop delving. Also, Dredge and Hogaak both have to many different Threats that on or two surgical effects are not enough, i fear.
- Creeping Tar Pit: The idea behind Hissing Quagmire was to have a recursive Removal with Life from the Loam, but i can see it beeing to slow and sometimes you also want a better clock. So i will probably add Creeping Tar Pit or Celestial Colonnade.
- Path to Exile over Fatal Push: I like Fatal Push more since the deck plays lot more black then white spells and mana sources.
- Stony Silence and Terastodon: I can see your points and will adapt these.
- The Wraths: This is the point I am not sure about. Since we already play 4 Gifts and some number of higher converted mana cost spells, i don't like the idea of also having 3 Wrath effects in the Main Board. Also: The sweeper of choice is usually Elesh Norn and you also have a lot of Spot Removal and Discard. Wraths can somtimes also be a nonbo with our creatures, especially Sylvan Caryatid. If i find the space, i will maybe try one or more Wraths in teh Side Board.
Hello everyone. After a long break from the Deck i am back to brewing with 4 Color Gifts. I enjoy the Rock Style Version of the Deck that splashes blue for Gifts and Snaps. Here is my list:
My thoughts:
- First: I am not sure about the Manabase and the Side Board
- I think Sylvan Caryatid is the best Ramp Creature. Not only because of Phoenix but also because of Wrenn and Six.
- I don't think that Iona is a maindeckable card anymore, so i put it into the Side Board.
- The third Fatal Push could also be the second Path, but i like to have a Turn one black spell (either Push ord Discard)
- Lingering Souls and Liliana of the Veil are Center Pieces of the Deck so i want at least 3 of both. Lingering Souls is also a nice completion to nearly every Gifts Pile
- I like Thragtusk and Baneslayer Angel as hardcastable threads that can stop agressive strategies and in the case of Thragtusk also generate value
- 2 Abrupt Decays are an idea to fight Teferi, Time Raveler and Wrenn and Six and some Side Board Hate
- 4 Nihil Spellbombs instead of Leyline because we don't clock our opponent and need to draw stuff
- I am still a fan of the Loam / Crime Package against UW Control.
- Bojuka Bog: I think you are right and i will try it.
- Blooming Marsh: I can understand the worry, especcialy regarding the fact, that we do play a high curve, so i will try to cut the 2 Blooming Marsh for Bojuka Bog and probably the 9th Fetchland.
- Kalitas: I do not like to build up synergies on the board, if you know what i am trying to say. I like Baneslayer Angel and Thragtusk because they are great on their own, gain life and fight aggro beat down.
- Surgical Extraction / Extirpate: I think they are worse against Hogaak / Dredge then Nihil Spellbomb. Spellbomb can stop delving. Also, Dredge and Hogaak both have to many different Threats that on or two surgical effects are not enough, i fear.
- Creeping Tar Pit: The idea behind Hissing Quagmire was to have a recursive Removal with Life from the Loam, but i can see it beeing to slow and sometimes you also want a better clock. So i will probably add Creeping Tar Pit or Celestial Colonnade.
- Path to Exile over Fatal Push: I like Fatal Push more since the deck plays lot more black then white spells and mana sources.
- Stony Silence and Terastodon: I can see your points and will adapt these.
- The Wraths: This is the point I am not sure about. Since we already play 4 Gifts and some number of higher converted mana cost spells, i don't like the idea of also having 3 Wrath effects in the Main Board. Also: The sweeper of choice is usually Elesh Norn and you also have a lot of Spot Removal and Discard. Wraths can somtimes also be a nonbo with our creatures, especially Sylvan Caryatid. If i find the space, i will maybe try one or more Wraths in teh Side Board.
4 Sylvan Caryatid
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Thragtusk
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Discard:
1 Raven's Crime
1 Thoughtseize
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Collective Brutality
Spot Removal:
1 Path to Exile
3 Fatal Push
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Assassin's Trophy
Value:
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Unburial Rites
1 Life from the Loam
3 Lingering Souls
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Windswept Heath
2 Polluted Delta
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Watery Grave
1 Temple Garden
1 Breeding Pool
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Shambling Vent
1 Hissing Quagmire
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Swamp
1 Plains
1 Forest
1 Island
2 Blooming Marsh
4 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Collector Ouphe
2 Damping Sphere
1 Plague Engineer
1 Celestial Purge
1 Nature's Claim
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Terastodon
1 Timely Reinforcements
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
My thoughts:
- First: I am not sure about the Manabase and the Side Board
- I think Sylvan Caryatid is the best Ramp Creature. Not only because of Phoenix but also because of Wrenn and Six.
- I don't think that Iona is a maindeckable card anymore, so i put it into the Side Board.
- The third Fatal Push could also be the second Path, but i like to have a Turn one black spell (either Push ord Discard)
- Lingering Souls and Liliana of the Veil are Center Pieces of the Deck so i want at least 3 of both. Lingering Souls is also a nice completion to nearly every Gifts Pile
- I like Thragtusk and Baneslayer Angel as hardcastable threads that can stop agressive strategies and in the case of Thragtusk also generate value
- 2 Abrupt Decays are an idea to fight Teferi, Time Raveler and Wrenn and Six and some Side Board Hate
- 4 Nihil Spellbombs instead of Leyline because we don't clock our opponent and need to draw stuff
- I am still a fan of the Loam / Crime Package against UW Control.
I am ready for your thoughts.