Quote from Galen Wood »“We can’t live in a country where the cops tell you what to do that’s Nazi Gestapo type stuff,” Wood said. “That’s not where we live.”
Quote from Ryperior74 »You kidding right
Why is there panic there’s gonna be thousands available from websites who sell magic cards
Quote from 5colors »Cool so again nothing suggests Garruk changed his views on humans in general jus t him opening up to the Kenriths family.
Quote from 5colors »No? Again hunters aren't the most liked by other humans and as we see might be hired as mercenaries but not something intricate to their ways of life. If you mean the military, Vivien says a few times people have a right to defend themselves as long as they don't kill unless they need too and even uses them to show the differences with how the hunters are seen.
Quote from 5colors »Now this is really going into baseless speculation. We don't know when they reach Kylem or if thats where Garruk is nor nothing would suggest that he would stay with them in the city once he sees they are doing ok as he still gonna wantlook for both Oko and Liliana.
Umm look at the cards name, its a poacher and thus likely selling the pig meat on the black markets.
Ummm thats what happens?
And a great way to show how Vivien and Garruk could have approached the conflict yet both just play with the concept nearly the same.
Quote from 5colors »And again nothing supports Garruk changing his view on humans just him growing to care for the Kenriths. He offers to look for the twins since as he (and we) know they now can travel the multiverse which can be dangerous. Nothing suggests he is going to return to society or embraced it just his pack now includes the Kenriths.
The Ikoria hunters aren't noble hunters gathering food for humans, they are game and sport hunters who hunt for a black market network and the hunters we saw aren't above killing people if it would get them a profit. They are barley even welcomed into the cities showing even other humans disagree with what they do and their methods. Nothing is touched on any hunter who hunt to strictly to feed (as the cities are said to have farms) and considering the hunters is putting what they get on the black market I doubt they helping the truly hungry. Nothing is touched on hunters who need to hunt to survive.
On that note...do the Ikoira normally eat monster meat? As far as I'm aware Lukka and his gang left the monster they killed and nothing is brought up on the body. Lukka even gives an oral report on what the monsters was and now it acted which doesn't seem like they bring in the bodies to study. Lukka mentions wanting chicken and rabbit meat with his meal with Vivien (not chicken-rabbit but as separate animals) implying there is a degree of normal-ish meant but nothing about monster meat.
Also...maybe I'm dirty minded but ummm an exotic animals horn for medical reason sounded like a aphrodisiac references which imo don't think animals should be killed for.
And in an other article (as talked about before) had Vivien also praising Skysaild for trying to avoiding monster attacks so honesty that blaring inconsistency making it hard to figure out that point.
While I might be wrong I find it hard to believe Vivien can't save an animal in the arc bow without it dying and again out of character to have Viviens made thing go against her nature without it being brought up as a character conflict.
And as the bow is made of a mix of Smaragdi and Nura magic so again I don't see the group that Vivien was born into being okay with the bow only working on dying animals as well. Seems similar to Kiora bonding with the essences of sea monsters to make powerful aether copies.
Okay so Vivien comes respects the Jirina the basically war lady of the height of human civilization on Ikoria. Would you think that if Vivien got to know a techno mage who thinks nature is icky who ...idk lost their home plane or was a victim of bolas she couldn't show respect and form a form of bond with them? Does every character need to have a meaningful connection to people they at a level fundamentally disagree with to show they are able to have character bonds and growths?
Quote from 5colors »Nothing suggests the Kenrith fixed Garruks hating/distrust of humanity. Its just the fact the Kenrith family has earned his respect. Again going back to the point you brought up, like Vivien, Garruk would have probity not trust two royal teenagers who's kingdom was built on driving back the wilds, same as how Vivien has shown affection and such for humans who she respects. And nothing say pre-cursed Garruk wound't have grown fond of the Kenrith either if given the chance to know them, not that its not character growth but not something Garruk is able to do that Vivien isn't.
Your really saying "humanity is evil for exploring nature" Vivien would willing let any animal dye so she could use it for the arc bow instead of trying to save it? We even see an example of this on Ikoria where she let the dinosaur that attacked her and Lukka after they had hurt it enough to make it run even thought its size and power would have been great for the arc bow.
And maybe this where the confusion comes from a bit. I'm mostly comparing Vivien to what he knew of pre-cursed Garruk and even still as said I don't see Garruk bond with the Kenrith as him now not hating humanity just finding humans he feels like he can now trust. I think they could grow to be more different and the last two books has show a better split (and shown with your papa wolf/lone wolf comparison) but still I think their roles and story potential is too similar, even more so now they have had Vivien growing out of the the possible hero/villian role they where maybe going with and Garruk losing his curse and return to mono-green.
Quote from 5colors »I'd say your assuming too much on mono-green Garruk. Nothing says he didn't kill people and gain one of the the first big thing he does is go after Liliana for killing one of his bonded beasts. He might have not hurt innocents like Vivien did on Ixalan, but he was willing to seems to kill people who crossed him or his beasts.
I also think the protective nature Garruk has the Kenriths isn't showing him being protective of humanity in general. The story goes over how the twins had show him kindness, with Will even risking his life to save him from drowning, and how their love for their parents reminded of his love for his father and mother. He still dislike people its just the Kenriths where able to earn his respect, Vivien is shown to be similar to the humans who gain her respect.
And looking through Ikoira what did Vivien do that would have been all that different from what Garruk would have done give him the same motivations. While your right he likely would have gone after monster to bond with, we saw Vivien did similar things with the arc bow. Vivien was a very passive character in the story with Lukka being the protagonist villain driving the events. Her role was basically the beast mage who helped Lukka to the Ozolith, joined up with the bonders to lead them help fight against Lukka and track down a walker who was corrupting the crystals.
Again replace Garruk with Vivien here and I see similar results going on and again I dislike how similar to each other the two are in what roles they can fill in stories and cards.
Quote from Darksteel_Eye »The Godzilla monsters all have a second card title under the main title that correlates to another legendary creature from the set. Are there some specific rules for these and why they are like that? Is it to trigger the same thing, to hypothetically get 8 cards with the same effect on your deck with diff titled cards?
Quote from Ryperior74 »Quote from HighHolder »Confused, is lutri banned in commander or not?
Ofcoarse lutri is it’s because the companion is a 100§ approved for any deck and it’s a dualcaster mage so any deck would do it
Quote from HighHolder »Confused, is lutri banned in commander or not?
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Oh look a buff to tainted pact decks. Also yeah, thats all folks for changes.
What does Tainted Pact have to do with Brawl bannings?
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Oh look a buff to tainted pact decks. Also yeah, thats all folks for changes.
Quote from 5colors »@Vivien v Garruk- Idk I have issues with Vivien being to similar to Garruk since the only difference is I *believe* Garruk does kill his hunts (though the example we saw he bonded with a monster not sure if he ended up killing it or healed it after). We only seen mono-green Garruk a few times as well, his origin story with his father being killed and him summoning beasts as an adult to kill the Sheriff who killed his dad (and he had the beasts destroy the town as well...so basically the first story we see with Vivien) and then him trying to kill Liliana after he killed one of his bonded beasts. I mean you could literally swap out Vivien out for Garruk for those stories, heck you could swap out Vivien for Garruk in this story. Also add in with Garruk retuning to being mono-green card-wise they will be really similar, thought thats a whole other issue they share with other walkers.