I think a lot of the argument against Proph is rooted in his D1 play being "too clean"/TMI influenced - and while I've seen this pan out before, I don't think I necessarily agree with it here. A lot of the reads Proph's been criticized for were pretty consensus - ZDS town, CropCircles wolf, etc etc - and I think Proph's general tone, while HR described it as "timid", actually comes across so calmly as to appear very assured in his conclusions, which is always gonna set off TMI alarm bells whether or not it's correct.
My read on Silver is essentially that he went from a wolf essentially having given up when he realized he wasn't gonna be able to get me over, to grasping at any straw he could find trying to push Proph over the top. If I'm correct, HR's renewed push towards Proph was basically a lifeline for him - BUT (and I have to give Grape credit for this one) Silver's wolfread on Proph is preeeeetty level one, and it's odd to go from what's essentially a negative space read on me to a level 1 read on Proph. Plus I personally don't think the scenario Proph thought was happening with the votes was all that outlandish, given that I think the setup he described is pretty standard on MC - and yeah, he maybe shoulda checked, but I don't think it's suspicious for him to not have? Villagers are lazy, it happens.
I'm prepared to be wrong, and I'll congratulate Proph and buckle down for F3 if I am, but I think Silver's the more likely hit here (and Grape agrees with me).
I think I said later on "Will vote in :55 assuming votes haven't changed" in 507, and then Axel voted in 512. That's why I didn't change my vote.
But if you were trying to avoid no lynch, why wouldn't you change your vote?
I was a dummy on Day 1 and didn't realize that the game was majority lunch; I thought it was plurality. So I didn't move my vote onto ZDS when Axel voted CC for fear of a tied No Lunch.
So it was a tied no lynch. Even if I bought the explanation that you believed it was plurality lynch in the case of no majority, it still doesn't explain why you failed to change your vote.
i think this is a miss but i'd rather not wind up not eliminating anyone
Vote ZeDorkSlipeur
Why vote ZDS instead of Joe Terry, whom you had previously voted to avoid no lynch, when they had the same amount of votes on them?
I'll reread to see if I can confirm this in either direction, but if I recall correctly (and it was like a month ago, so bear with me) I was townreading both JT and ZDS at the time; I suspect that I felt my reason to townread JT was stronger/less susceptible to being wrong, and thus preferred to vote ZDS isntead.
There's also a chance I didn't realize JT was a viable wagon - I recall having wrist issues around that time and making a conscious effort to spend as little time in thread as I could get away with - but I'm not sure if that's accurate or not. Long phase games, man.
higurashi was good and I'm now on ep 2 of umineko
but still, strong wolf performance from a rough situation. fun game
gg proph
##Vote: Prophylaxis
i just didn't expect to be the one holding the hammer lmao
ok
hardconfirming myself town
proph sell me on highroller wolf i guess
ok
i'm gonna refresh my memory on why i was hard clearing highroller but i assume what happens here is proph and i cross and HR is the decider
tl;dr i'm gonna vote silver
I think a lot of the argument against Proph is rooted in his D1 play being "too clean"/TMI influenced - and while I've seen this pan out before, I don't think I necessarily agree with it here. A lot of the reads Proph's been criticized for were pretty consensus - ZDS town, CropCircles wolf, etc etc - and I think Proph's general tone, while HR described it as "timid", actually comes across so calmly as to appear very assured in his conclusions, which is always gonna set off TMI alarm bells whether or not it's correct.
My read on Silver is essentially that he went from a wolf essentially having given up when he realized he wasn't gonna be able to get me over, to grasping at any straw he could find trying to push Proph over the top. If I'm correct, HR's renewed push towards Proph was basically a lifeline for him - BUT (and I have to give Grape credit for this one) Silver's wolfread on Proph is preeeeetty level one, and it's odd to go from what's essentially a negative space read on me to a level 1 read on Proph. Plus I personally don't think the scenario Proph thought was happening with the votes was all that outlandish, given that I think the setup he described is pretty standard on MC - and yeah, he maybe shoulda checked, but I don't think it's suspicious for him to not have? Villagers are lazy, it happens.
I'm prepared to be wrong, and I'll congratulate Proph and buckle down for F3 if I am, but I think Silver's the more likely hit here (and Grape agrees with me).
##Vote: SilverCrys3467
There's also a chance I didn't realize JT was a viable wagon - I recall having wrist issues around that time and making a conscious effort to spend as little time in thread as I could get away with - but I'm not sure if that's accurate or not. Long phase games, man.
Lemme find Highroller's question but I think I'm just gonna be lazy and vote Silver.
take 2
https://forums.darklordpotter.net/threads/joat-2-15er-a-mafia-game.39492/