Quote from rianalnn& clearly Annie has cut & paste the roles for this game directly from the MS wiki
I just noticed this - exactly what "extra leverage" were you referring to? What leverage was there in the first place?
(The answer is none.)
Hold on. You said yourself that you "remembered that you forgot the investigation, but decided to send it in despite not believing it'd work". You also said something else, but I ccan't remember what right now. I'll try again after I've gotten some sleep.
How does that align with what you're saying now?
For those who do not want to read, joboman made up **** and when I called him to back it up, he started going "it's there if you actually look, your job not mine to look". It was pretty blatantly obvious. Oh, and there, he had "no reason" to do that. Oh, and there he was scum.
So yeah, joboman, you are that bad.
I just included this because I find it so amusing that you're attempting to argue this.
"I had this completely different role therefore he's lying."
Quote from MafiaScumWiki »Some theme games made survival a win condition for the townies also, so they had to eliminate the mafia and survive.
Quote from Sepiriel »Problem with that Jobo is that THAT is not my role. My role, for all intent and purposes, is a Neutral Survivor however instead of being Neutral, my Alignment is Town.
Quote from Sepiriel »Again I am a Town Survivor, I can win either with the town or by surviving until the end of the game, thats what i meant by win with either team.
Not a fun role but i have tried to make the best with what i've got.
You are a Town Survivor
You have no abilities other than a vote during the day.
You win if you survive to the end of the day and the town wins. If you die and the town wins, or if you stay alive but the town loses then you lose.
the reason for that is obviously clear but its been discussed to death by Rian already so i dont think it needs repeating.
Additionally the fact i would be Neutral and hence would not be able to accomplish 50% of my wincon that way means it would make no sense to have a neutral alignment (look at Nai for example)
For me survivor IS a harder role to win with, I like lasting until the end regardless of the fact i win with the rest of the town (i make it a personal goal of mine to last as far into the game as possible),
but a survivor is a) a role most people consider expendable/useless/usually not counting towards the tally of town vs scum for purposes of standard Scum Win (or at least i understood the role to not count)
and b) its the first time i play one, not surprising since its my 4th game all together, and i always consider a new role as difficult to win with.
And in all honesty your case on me is about as valid as your case against Rian.
Quote from The Ice KingConsidering that nuetral survivor is a really cruddy role by itself, assuming sepir is really a survivor, I would be more inclined to believe that sepir could have the alternate win, rather than the tougher win.
Failing to produce a result last night
, lying about a vig shot to produce a claim from Rianalnn,
lying about Vezo being a cop at first, etc.
Seeing as how you haven't produced a "real" result outside of barning Vezo's Seppel case,
I fail to see why we should expect results from you in the future.
Despite the fact that Arcadic and Infinis got town results on Rianalnn, you still seem to believe that him and Arcadic have concocted a conspiracy to get you lynched.
Yet you didn't send in an investigation on Shalako last night, but Rianalnn.
And today, you're not voting Shalako, and while he finds you scummy, he's not voting you. Anyone else see this?
@Joboman: The case against you is real.
Your play this game has been illogical,
as your actions do not gel with your supposed role of cop.
he's been thoroughly uncooperative and deceitful.
lack of results
, illogical cases on townies (Ria + Arcadic),
and weak barning,
he still can't account for why he barned Vezo and claimed cop at the most opportunistic time possible.
Being on the wagon of a scum outed by a cop investigation gives you 0 clearance whatsoever.
Having an investigation of a scum can give clearance.
If you knew it was going to cause problems, why did you do it in the first place, regardless of alignment?
You've outed yourself when vezokpiraka's investigation might have been enough, you've wasted an investigation on yourself, and you've forgot to submit an investigation. Then you threaten a vig shot that you don't have. Clearly you are playing "that bad."
What you are saying, in essence, is
"I don't make stupid mistakes as scum."
which is untrue and WIFOM.
Quote from The Ice KingYour WIFOM is the nice way of putting your really horrible phrasing and wording if you truly are town (which I doubt).
While I admit I am a bit of a newbie, so I may be putting a bit too much into this, (someone other than Joboman has to tell me this) but I feel like your actions, and specifically your quote of this:
I am guessing you have been playing for quite a while, so you should realize this means nothing more than trying to convince people off your wagon. You missed the cutoff, and came up with some story that annorax allowed a late submission? There is no way any mod would allow that as the day starts for several reasons (and i wouldn't doubt it if someone from the mafia team actually pmed annorax to ask if that was really allowed)
Surely even you realize, that the same things that could "confirm" you as a sane cop, could also "confirm" you as a scum, right?
Vote stands unless someone does the "Nai Slip".