the cardigans - first band on the moon will get stuck in your head and never get out but it's good music instead of fall out boy
or you could pick up some fiery furnaces but i think it might be just me who they're catchy to
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1 - Goblinboy - Black Lotus, Magus of the Moon, Glowrider
New Trick/Old Trick
2 - Death_By_Beebles - Black Lotus, Magus of the Moon, Glowrider
ShouldIShowMyFaceAroundHere.dec?
3 - r_x_ - Black Lotus, Magus of the Moon, Glowrider
I'll be boring
4 - Tlaon - The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Eladamri's Vineyard, Treetop Village
TET!
5 - Shadowlord - The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Eladamri's Vineyard, Treetop Village
TET
6 - chaosjuggler - The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Eladamri's Vineyard, Treetop Village
Good Metagame Choice.dec
7 - WhammWhamme - The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Eladamri's Vineyard, Treetop Village
[TET is the only possible name for this]
8 - andelijah - Black Lotus, Quicksand, Sporesower Thallid
*Will someday make a deck that works*
9 - Chimpanzee - Savannah, Durkwood Baloth, Swords to Plowshares
A True Beast
10 - Crusher - Black Lotus, Channel, Platinum Angel
here it is
11 - marit - Sheltered Valley, Mishra's Factory, Epochrasite
Hooray for Lands
12 - Halinn - Black Lotus, Channel, Nullstone Gargoyle
From the skies we ascend
13 - SumPhatGuy - Mishra's Workshop, Steel Golem, Wheel of Torture
Oldie But Goodie.dec
14 - Wrath_of_DoG - Black Lotus, Wipe Away, Anurid Scavenger
Old Faithful
15 - silasw - Mishra's Workshop, Steel Golem, Wheel of Torture
"Will it work this time?"
16 - Iammars - Scrubland, Sleeper Agent, Brainwash
Stupid Mole
17 - Dusk_ - The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Mishra's Workshop, Chimeric Idol
Worth a Shot
X|1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7
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1|X-3-3-6-6-6-6-0-3-3-2-3-3-6-3-6-3 = 62
2|3-X-3-6-6-6-6-0-3-3-2-3-3-6-3-6-3 = 62
3|3-3-X-6-6-6-6-0-3-3-2-3-3-6-3-6-3 = 62
4|0-0-0-X-2-2-2-0-0-6-0-6-6-6-6-6-6 = 48
5|0-0-0-2-X-2-2-0-0-6-0-6-6-6-6-6-6 = 48
6|0-0-0-2-2-X-2-0-0-6-0-6-6-6-6-6-6 = 48
7|0-0-0-2-2-2-X-0-0-6-0-6-6-6-6-6-6 = 48
8|6-6-6-6-6-6-6-X-0-0-6-3-0-0-0-6-6 = 63
9|3-3-3-6-6-6-6-6-X-6-4-0-0-6-0-2-6 = 63
0|3-3-3-0-0-0-0-6-0-X-6-1-6-0-6-2-0 = 36
1|2-2-2-6-6-6-6-0-1-0-X-2-0-6-0-6-6 = 51
2|3-3-3-0-0-0-0-3-6-4-2-X-1-6-1-6-0 = 38
3|3-3-3-0-0-0-0-6-6-0-4-6-X-6-3-6-3 = 49
4|0-0-0-0-0-0-0-6-0-6-0-0-0-X-0-6-0 = 18
5|3-3-3-0-0-0-0-6-6-0-4-6-3-6-X-6-3 = 49
6|0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-2-2-0-0-0-0-0-X-0 = 4
7|3-3-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-6-6-0-3-6-0-6-X = 36
1. andelijah - *Will someday make a deck that works* - 63
1. Chimpanzee - A True Beast - 63
3. Goblinboy - New Trick/Old Trick - 62
3. Death_By_Beebles - ShouldIShowMyFaceAroundHere.dec? - 62
3. r_x_ - I'll be boring - 62
6. marit - Hooray for Lands - 51
7. SumPhatGuy - Oldie But Goodie.dec - 49
7. silasw - "Will it work this time?" - 49
9. Tlaon - TET! - 48
9. Shadowlord - TET - 48
9. chaosjuggler - Good Metagame Choice.dec - 48
9. WhammWhamme - [TET is the only possible name for this] - 48
13. Halinn - From the skies we ascend - 38
14. Dusk_ - Worth a Shot - 36
14. Crusher - here it is - 36
16. Wrath_of_DoG - Old Faithful - 18
17. Iammars - Stupid Mole - 4
Congrats to andelijah and Chimpanzee for winning 3CB #108!
Congrats to marit and andelijah for "Coolest Deck"
Congrats to Chimpanzee for "Coolest Deck Title" (I guess)
Watch list:
Wheel of Torture
Banned cards:
PLEASE CHECK YOUR DECK BEFORE SUBMITTING
The Rack
Form of the Dragon
Barren Glory
Leonin Squire
Show and Tell
Misguided Rage
Balance
Restore Balance
Strip Mine
Ghost Quarter
Wasteland
Glacial Chasm
Blackmail
Brain Pry
Coercion
Pulse of the Dross
Cabal Therapy
Mesmeric Fiend
Abandon Hope
Nezumi Shortfang
Meddling Mage
Voidstone Gargoyle
All ante cards
Any card that forces your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn.
Any non-mass-produced card (Proposal, 1996 World Champion, etc.)
Unglued
Unhinged
Banned Decks:
*Any deck that can feasibly force your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn. (The word force here is important. Mind Bomb is still legal, unless combined with Mindslaver ) (NOTE: Remove-From-Hand effects count as discarding)
*Any deck that can feasibly win on the first turn. (i.e. no matter who goes first, your deck cannot goldfish before the start of their second turn)
The Next Tournament
The next tournament starts right now and will be tabulated on the closing day. PM your submissions to me by Saturday, September 22 at midnight PST and results will be posted soon thereafter.
THE NEXT TOURNAMENT IS A SPECIAL FORMAT
The first letters of the names of the cards you use must be the first three letters of one of the names of the cards you use. For example: Black Lotus, Lightning Bolt, Anurid Scavenger. The cards start B L A, and Black Lotus starts BLA.
This is kind of a weird format, so I'll only run it one week.
If you have any questions about this format, about the rules, or simply want to see some statistics about the game, visit 3cb.DratItAll.com The Embarrassingly Crappy Looking Out of Date 3CB page!
On the page, you'll find links to all the 3CB's. I won't be updating the all-time rankings anymore though.
Also, everyone, Listen Up:
New format for suggesting corrections:
I'd sincerely appreciate all suggestions being in that format. Having the decklist number of what I'm correcting in the post makes things 100% easier for me. Thanks.
ANYway,
Feel free to discuss this week's and next week's 3CB in this thread and post any questions you may have! Good Luck!
-Goblinboy
Watch list:
Nuttin'
Banned cards:
PLEASE CHECK YOUR DECK BEFORE SUBMITTING
The Rack
Form of the Dragon
Barren Glory
Leonin Squire
Show and Tell
Misguided Rage
Balance
Restore Balance
Strip Mine
Ghost Quarter
Wasteland
Glacial Chasm
Blackmail
Brain Pry
Coercion
Pulse of the Dross
Cabal Therapy
Mesmeric Fiend
Abandon Hope
Nezumi Shortfang
Meddling Mage
Voidstone Gargoyle
All ante cards
Any card that forces your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn.
Any non-mass-produced card (Proposal, 1996 World Champion, etc.)
Unglued
Unhinged
Banned Decks:
*Any deck that can feasibly force your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn. (The word force here is important. Mind Bomb is still legal, unless combined with Mindslaver ) (NOTE: Remove-From-Hand effects count as discarding)
*Any deck that can feasibly win on the first turn. (i.e. no matter who goes first, your deck cannot goldfish before the start of their second turn)
The Next Tournament
The next tournament starts right now and will be tabulated on the closing day. PM your submissions to me by Saturday, September 15 at midnight PST and results will be posted soon thereafter.
If you have any questions about this format, about the rules, or simply want to see some statistics about the game, visit 3cb.DratItAll.com The Embarrassingly Crappy Looking Out of Date 3CB page!
On the page, you'll find links to all the 3CB's. I won't be updating the all-time rankings anymore though.
Also, everyone, Listen Up:
New format for suggesting corrections:
I'd sincerely appreciate all suggestions being in that format. Having the decklist number of what I'm correcting in the post makes things 100% easier for me. Thanks.
ANYway,
Feel free to discuss this week's and next week's 3CB in this thread and post any questions you may have! Good Luck!
-Goblinboy
#14 - Jack Power
Remove Water on the Knee: Collect $1000 fee!
Unmask
Sickening Shoal
Dryad Arbor
#16 - Goblinboy
Not Really Trying
Mishra's Factory
Mox Jet
Sphere of Resistance
Should be 4-1 in his favor instead of 2-2. If he goes first, he can Unmask my Mox.
Tony Stark.dec
Mishra's Workshop
Wheel of Torture
Steel Golem
Yep, this deck is pretty good.
2 - Amadi
Why isn't trinisphere on banned list?
Trinisphere
Mishra's Workshop
Steel Golem
Trinisphere isn't that great in a format where Workshop is the best card.
3 - Tlaon
Iron Man
Mishra's Workshop
Steel Golem
Wheel of Torture
Yep, this deck is pretty good.
4 - WhammWhamme
No Name
City of Brass
Granger Guildmage
Sea's Claim
City of Brass in a deck that intends to use mana over and over doesn't seem like a great idea. Undiscovered Paradise probably would have done better.
5 - Knowledge
MEH.dec (loses to Discard)
Mishra's Workshop
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs
Yep, this deck is pretty good.
6 - SumPhatGuy
CRUSH SMASH!!.dec
Maze of Ith
Hollow Trees
Crush of Wurms
Maze was pretty much a superstar this round. It was also pretty funny how many times Crush was actually flashed back. I don't remember that happening very often the last time I saw storage land/Crush.
7 - Jack Power
There's no need to fear...
Scrubland
Encroach
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
The Encroach deck everybody knew SOMEONE was going to play! Turned out to be a pretty good idea.
8 - Wrath_of_DoG
Nothing but a hound dog
Karakas
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Swords to Plowshares
Honestly I'm not sure why this did so poorly this week. Probably all the land control and an overall lower level of creatures.
9 - Charm_Master3125
Have no fear, Underdog is here!
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Karakas
Leyline of Singularity
See above
10 - krizzlybear
Underdog.dec
Karakas
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Leyline of Singularity
See above, also spooky name similarities
11 - Caldera42
Vindicate.dec
Mishra's Factory
Orzhov Basilica
Vindicate
Vindicate turned out to be a lot better than random creature kill this week, with plenty of lands and artifacts around. Good call.
12 - Dusk_
This is my Boomstick
Sheltered Valley
Mishra's Factory
Powder Keg
Keg had kind of a hard time getting going for some reason. Still a solid list though.
13 - chaosjuggler
Slow Rakdos
Lotus Bloom
Lotus Bloom
Rakdos the Defiler
Sadly, without the first-turn play, lots of decks have time to prepare for Rakdos and deal with him.
14 - andelijah
No Lotus? Fine. I'll go after the lands instead.
Taiga
Durkwood Baloth
Raze
This one surprised the hell out of me. Baloth is a great threat to combine with Raze, since it allows you to skirt around StP and the like.
15 - Goblinboy
It's Been A While
City of Traitors
Isochron Scepter
Raise the Alarm
I don't know WHY I expected a less Workshop-heavy environment, but that's what I built this for. Not a single Treetop Village! This deck does beat TET, by the way.
16 - magicianofthought
A Team Draw 7 Production: Stan Lee
Smokestack
Gods’ Eye, Gate to the Reikai
Mishra's Workshop
This deck is pretty much a mise deck. The opponent can just not play anything, and if you want your win condition you have to waste all your other stuff. This deck can only win games against decks that lose to a vanilla 1/1, which isn't a lot (or anything in this week).
17 - silasw
Kryptonasite
Mishra's Workshop
Sphere of Resistance
Epochrasite
This deck surprised me with how well it did, but it shouldn't have. The wins were 100% Sphere. Epochrasite was good at pulling out some draws versus Isamaru decks, but other than that (and versus the LED deck, which this lost to anyway) it was a dumb 1/1. I like the possibilities of the guy in this format, but it'd be nice to pair him with a sacrifice outlet.
18 - Frooog
Tabernacle is Bad Vs. Lands
Lion's Eye Diamond
Arrogant Wurm
Basking Rootwalla
I'm surprised this deck didn't do very well. Like it expected, very few Tabernacles. Maybe Nether Spirit would have been better this week, given the lack of goes-to-the-graveyard type removal. The Rootwalla didn't do much except slightly speed up the clock sometimes.
19 - ikkleste
Hulk Smash!? No, Gorrila Crack!! (ewww >.< Gorrila crack)
Simian Spirit Guide
Crack the Earth
Dryad Arbor
The Spirit Guide would have been much much better as a Mox. As is, once you lay the Arbor you can't Crack or you lose your only win condition. Like the Smokestack deck, this can only actually win games if the opponent loses to a vanilla 1/1.
20 - Username
A Team Draw 7 Production: Stan Lee
Smokestack
Gods' Eye, Gate to the Reikai
Mishra's Workshop
See #16
21 - Chimpanzee
He's Got Wurms
Maze of Ith
Hollow Trees
Crush of Wurms
See #6
22 - ThunderHog
Pwning Scepter!!!
City of Traitors
Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix
Wow, four of the same deck. Helix was a slightly better choice than Raise the Alarm (harumph!). The deck was very much hurt by the high amount of land and artifact destruction this week.
23 - Halinn
Thunder and lightning, very very frightening
City of Traitors
Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix
See Above
24 - death by aggro
Da Boomstick
City of Traitors
Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix
See Above
25 - Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
I'm going to beat you with a stick.
Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix
City of Traitors
See Above
X|1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0-1-2-3-4-5
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1|X-6-3-6-6-6-3-6-6-6-6-6-3-6-3-2-3-6-6-2-6-3-3-3-3 = 109
2|0-X-0-6-0-0-3-6-1-1-0-4-6-2-6-2-1-3-6-2-0-6-6-6-6 = 73
3|3-6-X-6-6-6-3-6-6-6-6-6-3-6-3-2-3-6-6-2-6-3-3-3-3 = 109
4|0-0-0-X-0-2-1-2-2-2-2-2-0-0-6-6-0-0-2-6-2-6-6-6-6 = 59
5|0-6-0-6-X-6-3-6-6-6-0-0-6-4-6-2-6-6-4-2-6-0-0-0-0 = 81
6|0-6-0-2-0-X-4-6-6-6-2-6-6-0-0-2-6-6-6-2-2-0-0-0-0 = 68
7|3-3-3-4-3-1-X-4-4-4-6-6-0-3-3-6-3-0-6-6-1-3-3-3-3 = 81
8|0-0-0-2-0-0-1-X-3-3-0-2-6-2-0-2-1-6-6-2-0-0-0-0-0 = 36
9|0-4-0-2-0-0-1-3-X-3-2-2-6-0-6-2-4-6-6-2-0-0-0-0-0 = 49
0|0-4-0-2-0-0-1-3-3-X-2-2-6-0-6-2-4-6-6-2-0-0-0-0-0 = 49
1|0-6-0-2-6-2-0-6-2-2-X-2-6-0-2-4-2-6-2-4-2-6-6-6-6 = 80
2|0-1-0-2-6-0-0-2-2-2-2-X-6-1-2-2-2-3-2-2-0-6-6-6-6 = 61
3|3-0-3-6-0-0-6-0-0-0-0-0-X-6-6-2-0-6-2-2-0-6-6-6-6 = 66
4|0-2-0-6-1-6-3-2-6-6-6-4-0-X-6-4-2-0-6-4-6-6-6-6-6 = 94
5|3-0-3-0-0-6-3-6-0-0-2-2-0-0-X-6-0-6-2-6-6-3-3-3-3 = 63
6|2-2-2-0-2-2-0-2-2-2-1-2-2-1-0-X-0-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 = 38
7|3-4-3-6-0-0-3-4-1-1-2-2-6-2-6-6-X-3-2-6-0-6-6-6-6 = 84
8|0-3-0-6-0-0-6-0-0-0-0-3-0-6-0-2-3-X-6-2-0-0-0-0-0 = 37
9|0-0-0-2-1-0-0-0-0-0-2-2-2-0-2-2-2-0-X-2-0-2-2-2-2 = 25
0|2-2-2-0-2-2-0-2-2-2-1-2-2-1-0-2-0-2-2-X-2-2-2-2-2 = 38
1|0-6-0-2-0-2-4-6-6-6-2-6-6-0-0-2-6-6-6-2-X-0-0-0-0 = 68
2|3-0-3-0-6-6-3-6-6-6-0-0-0-0-3-2-0-6-2-2-6-X-2-2-2 = 66
3|3-0-3-0-6-6-3-6-6-6-0-0-0-0-3-2-0-6-2-2-6-2-X-2-2 = 66
4|3-0-3-0-6-6-3-6-6-6-0-0-0-0-3-2-0-6-2-2-6-2-2-X-2 = 66
5|3-0-3-0-6-6-3-6-6-6-0-0-0-0-3-2-0-6-2-2-6-2-2-2-X = 66
1. Death_By_Beebles (1) - Tony Stark.dec - 109
1. Tlaon (3) - Iron Man - 109
3. andelijah (14) - No Lotus? Fine. I'll go after the lands instead. - 94
4. silasw (17) - Kryptonasite - 84
5. Knowledge (5) - MEH.dec (loses to Discard) - 81
5. Jack Power (7) - There's no need to fear... - 81
7. Caldera42 (11) - Vindicate.dec - 80
8. Amadi (2) - Why isn't trinisphere on banned list? - 73
9. SumPhatGuy (6) - CRUSH SMASH!!.dec - 68
9. Chimpanzee (21) - He's Got Wurms - 68
11. chaosjuggler (13) - Slow Rakdos - 66
11. ThunderHog (22) - Pwning Scepter!!! - 66
11. Halinn (23) - Thunder and lightning, very very frightening - 66
11. death by aggro (24) - Da Boomstick - 66
11. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! (25) - I'm going to beat you with a stick. - 66
16. Goblinboy (15) - It's Been A While - 63
17. Dusk_ (12) - This is my Boomstick - 61
18. WhammWhamme (4) - WhammWhamme - 59
19. Charm_Master3125 (9) - Have no fear, Underdog is here! - 49
19. krizzlybear (10) - Underdog.dec - 49
21. magicianofthought (16) - A Team Draw 7 Production: Stan Lee - 38
21. Username (20) - A Team Draw 7 Production: Stan Lee - 38
23. Frooog (18) - Tabernacle is Bad Vs. Lands - 37
24. Wrath_of_DoG (8) - Nothing but a hound dog - 36
25. ikkleste (19) - Hulk Smash!? No, Gorrila Crack!! (ewww >.< Gorrila crack) - 25
They get the red from the land and two green from the Vineyard.
About 200 pounds
Not really, also one of the goals of the deck was to cast colossus.
Don't worry, if I was doing it there would be just as many errors
#1 vs #8
Is: 3-3
Should be: 2-2
Whichever one goes first has the first chance to play Vineyard. But if they do, the other person gets to swing first and will win. So, nobody plays Vineyard and the game ties.
#2 and #6 vs #5
Is: 3-3
Should be: 4-1 #5 favor
If #2 goes first, he Unmasks the Gargadon and ties when the Crack makes him sac his Arbor. If #5 goes first, Gargadon hits turn 11 with 12 life left and he wins.
#3 vs #14
Is: 0-6 #14 favor
Should be: 2-2
He doesn't play Isamaru or lets it die. If I activate Factory, he StPs it. Draw. Or he plays Isamaru, pays for it, never attacks, and if I swing with Factory he blocks.
#3 vs #16
Is: 6-0 #3 favor
Should be: 2-2
Vindicate targets the Karakas. If Isamaru swings, Factory activates, pumps itself, blocks. If Factory swings, Isamaru blocks it.
#4 vs #14
Is: 0-6 #14 favor
Should be: 2-2
He doesn't play Thallid, then he StPs my Factory if I activate it.
#5 vs #9
Is: 6-0 #5 favor
Should be: 2-2
If #5 suspends Gargadon, #9 plays Island/Flying Men. If #5 plays Crack, 9 sacs the Flying Men and waits for the Gargadon to hit play, then Chains it, where it can't be played again (no Mountain). If he does not play Crack, this happens:
5: Mountain, Gargadon (10)
9: Island, Flying Men
5: Gargadon 9
9: Swing (20-19)
(continue)
5: Gargadon 1
9: Swing (20-11)
5: Gargadon comes into play, is Chained, Gargadon 10.
9: Swing (20-10)
5: Gargadon 9, Crack (sac Mountain, Island), Gargadon 8
9: Swing (20-9)
(continue)
5: Gargadon 1
9: Swing (20-2)
5: Gargadon in play, swings (11-2)
9: Swing (11-1)
5: Swing (2-1)
9: Swing (win)
So, #5 will play the Crack before all this happens and the game will tie.
#5 vs #10
Is: 4-1 #10 favor
Should be: 6-0 #10 favor
If #5 goes first,
5: Mountain, Gargadon 10
10: Paradise, Hatchling 4
5: Crack, Gargadon 8
10: Hatchling 3
5: Gargadon 7
10: Hatchling 2
5: Gargadon 6
10: Hatchling 1
5: Gargadon 5
10: Hatchling swing (20-17)
5: Gargadon 4
10: Hatchling swing (20-14)
5: Gargadon 3
10: Hatchling swing (20-11)
5: Gargadon 2
10: Swing (20-8)
5: Gargadon 1
10: Swing (20-5)
5: Gargadon swing (11-5)
10: Swing (11-2)
5: Gargadon swing (2-2)
10: Swing (win)
#5 vs #12 and #15
Is: 2-2
Should be: 4-1 #12 favor
If #12 goes first, he drops Tongs first. If 5 suspends Gargadon, 12 can drop Bridge and win (sacs Workshop to Crack). If 5 does not suspend Gargadon and Cracks right away, 12 can sac Workshop and win off of Tongs (can't suspend Gargadon, no Mountain).
#5 vs #18
Is: 6-0 #5 favor
Should be: 3-3
If #18 goes first,
18: Forest, Mentor
5: If he plays Crack, Forest is sacced and Mentor swings for the win. So he suspends Gargadon 10
18: Make a token
5: Crack, (sac Forest/Mounta, Gargadon 8)
18: Make a token (use other token for mana)
This continues until Gargadon hits. Then, 18 will have enough tokens to make a new one each turn to block Gargadon, and swing with the rest. If Gargadon does not swing, 18 makes enough tokens for Colossus and wins.
#16 vs #18
Is: 3-3
Should be: 4-1 #16 favor
If #18 goes first,
18: Forest, Mentor
16: Factory
18: Token
16: Basilica
18: Token #2
16: Factory, Vindicate the Mentor.
Two tokens versus a Factory. If Factory swings, it's blocked and killed. If tokens swing, they're blocked and killed.
I don't think I win anymore
Edit: Dusk posted while I was calculating
Edit:
Lotus/Treasure Hunter/Magus goes:
6-6-6-4-2-3-3-6-6-2-6-4-6-6-3-6-6-0 = 78
which would have won. Also that Llanowar Mentor deck is super super cool.