I would rather just play the 3 drop rhino that makes all your dudes indestructible. its way easier to pod into and ATM i don't think were worried too much about life. i haven't played baloth in my board for a long long time and i do just fine against the aggro match we have finks and that's all you really need for the aggro match-up.
all these statements just agree with me that this deck should just be called junk pod, because yes a lot of the time going for the value plan over the combo plan is better, but having the combo lets you switch routes seamlessly sometimes, but lets talk about the deck and now what it should be called. Is it a common beliefe that the archangel combo isnt needed any more? because i have considered just running archangel for the value, its an awesome engine with finks just pumping everything up.
i understand that i still run two melira and 3 sac outlets, thats how i win 60% of my games in combo, but the direction that some of these lists are going doesnt seem like they want to combo any more and they just want to play value. which is good. but comboing is also very good.
your MB is pretty similar to mine. and ive played a ton with my list, you can probably cut the pilgrim for now and run a third voice, hes pretty amazing in almost any match up. including decks that are about to get pretty popular, like zoo fae and living end.
the hardest matches i find to be are [with a good pilot] tron - in any form[u/w r/g or some other nonsense brew], and UWR control, easily the two roughest matches.
SO, did some playtesting against a pretty classic build of fae, and I wrecked them. with my build I posted earlier. and its a pretty damn good match. bitter blossom is of no concern to us. he played it turn two three games in a row and it really did no good against me. just made a few dudes then I comboed. So all in all its a pretty good match for us.
I must say a few months back i let my friend borrow my deck, he played it to good success but he cut the aristocrat and i played his exact 75 just to see how it performed and i can honestly say i lost at LEAST 4 games because i had no two drop sac outlet. only seer.
I combo off a lot, either infinite life against a deck i know cant do infinite damage then kill them later or just kill them on the spot, aggro route comes [to me at least] if i know im going to have a really rough time comboing off or the combo route is looking grim.
Here is the list i have run for the past 5-6 months with very few changes.[with hierarch replacing shaman]
the thrun and the sin collector might and probably will come out for two scavenging ooze.
You'll notice i also dont play the archangel combo in my deck i feel its just too cute, and i play in a meta filled with mono blue tron and UWR control. So more voice less durdle is better. I was going to cut the Maw for archangel and not play feeder, but now that deathrite is gone that is probably not going to happen. I play a pretty old school version of the deck. just because there are new cards that we can play in the deck doesnt really make it better. thats how i feel about archangel combo.
I do expect the meta to flood with GY based decks and zoo decks. not BB decks. if BB becomes a real problem Golgari Charm can make its way into my SB.
On a side note a few cards ive been curious about trying are magus of the abyss and gaddock teeg. gaddock is probably bad for the deck, but hes soooooooo goood possibly even KotR
HAS EVERY ONE CUT CARTEL ARISTOCRAT?
i feel like thats one of the better cards in the deck. but maybe its just how i play.
I still run it but as I've said before I feel like it's the worst creature in my deck. Having a sac outlet at the 2 slot is very useful though.
I feel like i go and get aristocrat more often just because i can pod my birds into it and then get a sac outlet. it has won me more games than it has lost me and if youre running the archangel combo it gives you a way to get unblockable damage in.
since were on the topic of bug pod is there any sample lists that we could possibly start working off of? i mean a lot of the deck stays but there are some pretty sweet cards like glen elendra archmage
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might as well just call this junk pod
the hardest matches i find to be are [with a good pilot] tron - in any form[u/w r/g or some other nonsense brew], and UWR control, easily the two roughest matches.
I combo off a lot, either infinite life against a deck i know cant do infinite damage then kill them later or just kill them on the spot, aggro route comes [to me at least] if i know im going to have a really rough time comboing off or the combo route is looking grim.
Here is the list i have run for the past 5-6 months with very few changes.[with hierarch replacing shaman]
3 noble hierarch
1 orzhov pontiff
1 ranger of eos
1 linvala, keeper of secrets
2 viscera seer
4 kitchen finks
2 melira, sylvok outcast
2 murderous redcap
3 voice of resurgence
1 shriekmaw
1 cartel aristocrat
1 reveillark
1 quasali pridemage
1 eternal witness
3 chord of calling
2 thoughtseize
23 land package
1 kataki, wars wage
1 thalia, guardian of thraben
1 voice of resurgence
1 aven mindcensor
1 sin collector
1 thrun, the last troll
1 sigarda, host of herons
2 thoughtseize
3 abrupt decay
3 dismember
the thrun and the sin collector might and probably will come out for two scavenging ooze.
You'll notice i also dont play the archangel combo in my deck i feel its just too cute, and i play in a meta filled with mono blue tron and UWR control. So more voice less durdle is better. I was going to cut the Maw for archangel and not play feeder, but now that deathrite is gone that is probably not going to happen. I play a pretty old school version of the deck. just because there are new cards that we can play in the deck doesnt really make it better. thats how i feel about archangel combo.
I do expect the meta to flood with GY based decks and zoo decks. not BB decks. if BB becomes a real problem Golgari Charm can make its way into my SB.
On a side note a few cards ive been curious about trying are magus of the abyss and gaddock teeg. gaddock is probably bad for the deck, but hes soooooooo goood possibly even KotR
I feel like i go and get aristocrat more often just because i can pod my birds into it and then get a sac outlet. it has won me more games than it has lost me and if youre running the archangel combo it gives you a way to get unblockable damage in.
i feel like thats one of the better cards in the deck. but maybe its just how i play.
Also i feel like in a BUG build Time of need could be put to some serious use, there are a ton of powerhouse creatures in those colors like Kira, great glass-spinner or Sygg, River cutthroat or Varolz, the scar-striped