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Thankfully, Gamasutra got to the Eurogamer links before stories about God of War 2, Gran Turismo 4 Online Edition and information about Killzone PSP were replaced with the following: “The information that previously appeared here has been removed under the threat of legal action from Sony Computer Entertainment Europe.”
The stories allegedly came from “leaked marketing documentation” and indicated that Kratos is back and God of War 2 will be released stateside in February 2007 for the PlayStation 2 with a European release soon to follow. According to the documents, Gran Turismo 4 Online Edition will be released in the second quarter of this year and feature six player online play, worldwide rankings and replay upload options. The usual fleet of cars will be there, this time around 700 vehicles with 50 tracks to race on. We mentioned the Killzone details earlier this morning.
Quote from Kraj »If you drive down the same stretch of road at 15 miles per hour over the speed limit for years is that a valid defense when you finally get a ticket? No.
Quote from FuturameMeetsMagic »The world will be ruined when money is put above Morality!
Quote from MillMaster »But your premise is that a company should do ANYTHING it can to keep even ONE customer. Of course I know that customer satisfaction is everything to a business. But your ignoring the conflict that your premises initiates. I’m a customer of Magic too, and I think that shutting down unofficial spoilers is good, and I am boycotting all pre-releases until they do. You’re a customer that thinks Wizards is evil because they choseto protect their copyrights using heavy handed legal tactics. Now if your premises that every single customer counts is to be upheld, what should Wizards do?
Wizards will side with the majority.
If destroying the life of 1 man will save 1 wholesalers business, then they will probably do it.
Quote from Talen Lee »Sapph, yeah, but you have to remember, the tournament-playing Magic scene is barely 20% of the audience. If that.
Quote from MillMaster »To say there is nothing illegal about passing on information you assume to have been obtained illegally and you know to be protected by copyright (look at the bottom of the playtest cards) is just ignorant. And being ignorant of the law does not exempt you from it. Just because something is being reported as news does not mean all copyright and trade-secret laws are nullified. The fake-card argument holds no water either.
This is just pure nonsense. Your acting as if these companies should lose money just to keep customers. If a company does something to protect itself, that is much better than keeping customers but not making profit. To a company making MONEY is the most important thing, not keeping customers as you believe.
Quote from Azerbaijan »[/font]I'm just trying to see if you would really demand that Wizards write R_E a formal C&D letter before suing, when their dislike of leaks is well-known in the online Magic community, where R_E is being described as a pillar.
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Quote from Mortal Wombat »Oh please. A boycott is not going to be enough to stop the Hasbro juggernaut. I remember I tried boycotting Disney after the Anaheim Angels beat the Yankees in 2002. It didn't go very well. Never boycott big companies.
Quote from Azerbaijan »Wizards wasn't very nice about the way they handled the suit, no doubt. Would you have been happier if they'd warned RE first? Does Maro's column bad-mouthing leaks suffice? What about the article warning that discussing unreleased cards is illegal?
Quote from Maro »My comments today are directed at the sources of the leaks, not the press that reports them.
Quote from HAWKEYE7 »To shape the discussion and discredit the opposing voices is a standard formula used in the court of public opinion.
Make no mistake, some of what we are seeing here is exactly that.
It is Spin pure and simple.
Keep drumming the point that RE committed a crime.
keep repeating that Wizards is well within it's rights to act as it has.
Attempt to discredit those who disagree and are pointing out these tactics as conspiracy theorists.
Continue to drive the point that Wizards/Hasbro are so big and the Magic community is so much more then what happens here that any dissent by people here will not amount to a blip on the screen and thus is not worth the effort.
That he(RE) is up against a Billion dollar a year plus corporation and it is futile for him to continue to fight.
Repeatedly fly the balloon that all RE has to do is give up his sources and all this will go away like MAGIC.
This is their real goal. To quickly and inexpensively nail whoever is leaking the information.
You rarely see this kind of spin oputside of polital campaigns at least not this first hand.
I think Wizards/Hasbro is wrong.
They are wrong in their approach to their problem of an information leak.
I think that they are wrong to try to fiancially bankrupt a man who's actions so many of their loyal fans eagerly encouraged and supported.
I think that they are wrong in underestimating the damage to their game these actions are causing. I, for one, will not be purchasing any products made by their company again.
and finally I think this embarrassing attempt to spin this debacle only shows how out of touch they are with their fans.
Simply because they have the legal right to do something does not make it the right thing to do. Had they approached this problem of theirs a different way they would not need to engage in damage control now.
Quote from MillMaster »Do you really expect us to believe that you follow this same doctrine for every product you consume in your life? What kind of car do you drive, what kind of clothes do you wear? What kind of food do you eat, hell.. what web-browser are you using? Almost every company out there has probably used tactics like these (or worse in most cases) to protect its products and investments. I just dont buy this as an honest argument.
Quote from The Fallen Evincar »
Ah, it's simply because I forgot (somehow, I go crazy sometimes. ) to list Public Enemy, De La Soul, and Run DMC, I give plenty dap to the old school, and I'm a big NWA fan, no doubt.
And silly me, I forgot the Fugees and the Mitchell Brothers as well! I must've written it pretty quickly on the fly.
So my revised list...
The Beastie Boys
The Mitchell Brothers
De La Soul
...simply shows the difference, more or less, is your lacking in the underground, which you should give a looksee sometime for the hell of it. Non-Phixion, Hieroglyphics, the Def Jux crew, and KMD come highly recommended.
Also, I hope you weren't implying the ones I listed are more orientated with bling or such rap, since absolutely none of them are really, except maybe Mobb Deep or D-Block, but even then, no, not really, they're more gangster along the lines of NWA. There aren't many bling rap groups in existence to tell the truth, save The Inc., Ruff Ryders, and G-Unit...
Nothing really to get into an arguement about.
Quote from The Fallen Evincar »
And do you mean best artists ever, or literally groups, not single artists?
If you mean groups...
The Beastie Boys
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