MTG Salvation

Quote from tifo86

Both of them did't finish well...imo rug build is too rely on specific plan that need multiple key cards
In fact I found RUG's early game is awkward .....sometimes you can do aggro when you have some nice draw,but most of time you are on the defensive end... and your win con usually can't help the board situation in time....

Sorry but I don't care whether they finished first or last. I was just trying to gather more ideas and insight as to playing RUG Pod. As I stated earlier, I mentioned them only to [possibly] get more lists into the discussion as I am intrigued in playing something different from the norm. I do apologize as I should have just posted their list instead of names, but I figured it's not that hard to look these kinds of things up.

Here's their decklist for reference. They had SB a little different but the only MD difference was +1 GSZ -1 Forest.


Here's another list (it placed well a couple weeks back):


I do see your point about the early game could be awkward and being on the defensive end. I guess maybe it could depend on your build. In looking at various RUG Pod builds, it seems there are a few spots to play around with and put whatever you want. Should I be more controlling with mana leaks, fixing with ponder, or maybe removal (bonfire, vapor snag)? I am also considering another wolf run over the refuge. Thoughts?

Quote from tifo86

How was leak&captain?I really worried the mana might be to tight to tap/untap...

It's fine if you plan ahead what you're going to do. I feel like playing the mana leak MD can surprise some people game 1. You could at least bluff them out, make them play around counter magic lol.

Captain can serve multiple roles IMO. Untapping Pod multiple times doesn't seem fair. You can stop one of their guys from attacking (maybe something with sword or that has been soulbound). If they are land cut on a color, tap it during upkeep. I had my Vorapede tapped from my own stolen Frost Titan (Zealous Conscripts), but I just untapped it and swung for lethal lol.

I would also like to mention that Todd Anderson and David McDarby both played RUG Pod @ SCG Nashville. This mention is just to add more decklists into the discussion.

Played RUG pod in game day. We had about 15 or so people.
Only lost to naya pod in finals (beat this person during round 2). It just came down to what we drew I guess lol.
Didn't get to Navi blink like I wanted to, but Captain was awesome multiple chains untapping pod. Any feedback welcomed...

So it contains kit-kats? Break me off a piece of that hellvault seal...

I remember at GP Orlando, one of the side events was a TCGPlayer sealed event (even more memorable because a judge announced "Attention SCG Players" LoL). Anyways, the guy had a cell phone call during a match. He was really adamant about taking this call. The judge asked him a few questions, and after a discussion coming to the conclusion it was not to be taken. Obviously the guy appeals to the head judge. More questions were asked, I think some were like "Are you active military or medical personnel? Is the call a life or death situation?" etc.

By now this guy is getting really upset, as his answers are not helping his cause. He also didn't want to reveal the nature of the call. In the end, the head judge came to the same ruling as the previous judge not to take the call. Afterwards, not sure about how it went down, but he ended up going to the restroom and I'm assuming took his call in there.

Anyways, I can understand not wanting to reveal your personal stuff, but I can also see how the questions were relevant in the acceptance of the phone call. I do like the new rules updates. Guess I'm going to have to go over everything just to make sure I don't miss anything now.

I played this at FNM, went 3-1-1 with 53 ppl and ended up 10th place. I never did get the full combo. Deathmantle was fun bringing back Solemn and Slime lol. Twisted was ok, at very least a cantrip, but saved me from 3/1 legionnaire and 2/1 snapcaster lol. Negates from nowhere for the blowout too.

Back again. Made in U.S.A

Box #4
Left Side
Increasing Savagery / Chosen Markov Foil Increasing Vengeance
Increasing Devotion / Hinterland Hermit
Requiem Angel / Loyal Cathar
Deranged Outcast / Scorned Villager Foil Burden of Guilt
Dungeon Geists / Mondronen Shaman
Ghoultree / Chosen Markov
Grafdigger's Cage / Afflicted Deserter
Geralf's Messenger / Wolfbitten Captive
Call to the Kindred / Hinterland Hermit
Drogskol Reaver / Scorned Villager
Fiend of the Shadows / Hinterland Hermit
Curse of Bloodletting / Chalice of Life Foil Stormbound Geist
Middle
Call to the Kindred / Scorned Villager
Curse of Misfortunes / Loyal Cathar Foil Wakedancer
Sorin / Afflicted Deserter
Beguiler of Wills / Chalice of Life
Curse of Bloodletting / Chosen Markov
Geralf's Mindcrusher / Soul Seizer
Increasing Ambition / Chosen Markov
Increasing Confusion / Hinterland Hermit Foil Sightless Ghoul
Curse of Echoes / Loyal Cathar
Hellrider / Loyal Cathar Foil Burning Oil
Increasing Devotion / Soul Seizer
Alpha Brawl / Scorned Villager Foil Geralf's Messenger
Right Side
Curse of Echoes / Soul Seizer
Vault of the Archangel / Hinterland Hermit Foil Clinging Mists
Thalia / Scorned Villager
Gravecrawler / Lambholt Elder Foil Ravenous Demon
Feed the Pack / Hinterland Hermit
Archangel's Light / Loyal Cathar
Zombie Apocalypse / Lambholt Elder
Helvault / Scorned Villager
Havengul Runebinder / Chalice of Life
Sudden Disappearance / Chosen Markov
Curse of Misfortunes / Elbrus Blinding Blade
Increasing Vengeance / Chosen Markov

All these boxes were Made in U.S.A. Also shortcut some of the names as I had to do this in a timely fashion. I'll add another box later. Seems to be about 6-8 foils per box, 6-7 Mythics per box, and maybe 1 emblem token per case. Not sure on the emblem, but we did open over 2 cases worth of product. Box #2 and #3 from same case. Hope this helps!

Box #1
Left Side
Dungeon Geists / Chosen Markov
Feed the Pack / Hinterland Hermit
Jar of Eyeballs / Mondronen Shaman Foil Faith's Shield
Thalia / Chalice of Life
Increasing Devotion / Chosen Markov
Gravecrawler / Elbrus Blinding Blade
Increasing Confusion / Hinterland Hermit Foil Altar of Lost
Curse of Misfortunes / Scorned Villager Foil Break of Day
Call to the Kindred / Hinterland Hermit
Mikaeus / Afflicted Deserter Foil Afflicted Deserter
Increasing Savagery / Huntmaster of Fells
Requiem Angel / Soul Seizer Foil Vorapede
Middle
Thraben Doomsayer / Hinterland Hermit
Requiem Angel / Chosen Markov
Fiend of the Shadows / Scorned Villager Foil Wild Hunger
Increasing Savagery / Afflicted Deserter Foil Hinterland Hermit
Grafdigger Cage / Lambholt Elder
Markov Blademaster / Scorned Villager
Lost in the Woods / Loyal Cathar Foil Highborn Ghoul
Seance / Lambholt Elder Foil Zombie Apocalypse
Sorin / Loyal Cathar
Sudden Disappearance / Chosen Markov
Zombie Apocalypse / Wolfbitten Captive
Curse of Echoes / Loyal Cathar
Right Side
Increasing Vengeance / Soul Seizer
Drogskol Reaver / Afflicted Deserter
Counterlash / Loyal Cathar Foil Increasing Vengeance
Zombie Apocalypse / Scorned Villager
Flayer of the Hatebound / Loyal Cathar Foil Fling
Vault of Archangel / Loyal Cathar
Vorapede / Soul Seizer
Ghoultree / Hinterland Hermit
Havengul Runebinder / Ravenous Demon
Curse of Bloodletting / Chalice of Life
Jar of Eyeballs / Scorned Villager
Thalia / Chosen Markov

Box #2
Left Side
Increasing Vengeance / Scorned Villager Foil Thought Scour
Increasing Savagery / Scorned Villager Foil Alpha Brawl
Gravecrawler / Soul Seizer
Lost in Woods / Hinterland Hermit
Vorapede / Chosen Markov
Thraben Doomsayer / Scorned Villager
Beguiler of Wills / Soul Seizer
Alpha Brawl / Soul Seizer
Curse of Misfortunes / Ravenous Demon
Requiem Angel / Hinterland Hermit
Dungeon Geists / Afflicted Deserter
Grim Backwoods / Hinterland Hermit Foil Haunted Fengraf
Middle
Havengul Lich / Wolfbitten Captive
Grafdigger Cage / Chosen Markov
Markov Blademaster / Loyal Cathar
Seance / Chosen Markov
Sudden Disappearance / Afflicted Deserter
Call to the Kindred / Lambholt Elder
Gravecrawler / Loyal Cathar
Zombie Apocalypse / Loyal Cathar
Thalia / Scorned Villager
Predator Ooze / Chalice of Life
Hellrider / Lambholt Elder Foil Blood Feud
Counterlash / Chosen Markov Foil Increasing Confusion
Right Side
Counterlash / Loyal Cathar Foil Mondronen Shaman
Flayer of Hatebound / Hinterland Hermit
Predator Ooze / Lambholt Elder Foil Skillful Lunge
Hellrider / Mondronen Shaman
Grim Backwoods / Chalice of Life Foil Skirsdag Flayer
Fiend of the Shadows / Hinterland Hermit
Deranged Outcast / Scorned Villager
Sorin / Elbrus Blinding Blade
Vault of Archangel / Hinterland Hermit
Havengul Runebinder / Loyal Cathar
Geralf's Messenger / Chosen Markov Foil Gruesome Discovery
Geralf's Mindcrusher / Huntmaster Fells

Box #3
Left Side
Falkenrath Aristocrat / Loyal Cathar
Call to the Kindred / Chalice of Life
Deranged Outcast / Chosen Markov
Zombie Apocalypse / Hinterland Hermit Foil Bar the Door
Feed the Pack / Scorned Villager
Increasing Vengeance / Chalice of Life Foil Chalice of Life
Increasing Devotion / Loyal Cathar
Curse of Misfortunes / Loyal Cathar Foil Deadly Allure
Fiend of the Shadows / Hinterland Hermit
Archangel's Light / Scorned Villager
Requiem Angel / Hinterland Hermit
Increasing Ambition / Scorned Villager Foil Nephalia Seakite
Middle
Counterlash / Lambholt Elder
Drogskol Reaver / Hinterland Hermit
Dungeon Geists / Loyal Cathar
Markov Blademaster / Chosen Markov Foil Predator Ooze
Curse of Echoes / Loyal Cathar
Ghoultree / Hinterland Hermit
Curse of Bloodletting / Chalice of Life
Vault of Archangel / Chosen Markov Foil Ray of Revelation
Increasing Confusion / Mondronen Shaman
Grim Backwoods / Chosen Markov
Havengul Lich / Chosen Markov
Jar of Eyeballs / Hinterland Hermit
Right Side
Geralf's Messenger / Scorned Villager
Thalia / Soul Seizer
Increasing Savagery / Afflicted Deserter Foil Nearheath Stalker
Vorapede / Ravenous Demon
Mikaeus / Lambholt Elder
Flayer of Hatebound / Afflicted Deserter
Geralf's Mindcrusher / Soul Seizer
Sudden Disappearance / Soul Seizer
Alpha Brawl / Scorned Villager
Lost in Woods / Wolfbitten Captive
Dungeon Geists / Afflicted Deserter
Thraben Doomsayer / Lambholt Elder

Quote from encikdpac

ohh..how does that works?

Necrotic Ooze + Bloodline Keeper + Grimgrin, Corpse-Born + Tree of Redemption

Ooze in play, others in graveyard.

Tap Bloodline for token, sac token with Grimgrin untap add +1/+1 counter, repeat...activate using Tree with 1 million counters.

However, I suppose you could also:

Necrotic Ooze + Palladium Myr + Pentavus + Vigil for the Lost for 1 million

Ooze and Vigil in play, others graveyard, and Ooze needs +1/+1 counter.

Tap Myr add 2, Pentavus pay 1 remove counter make token, sac token with Grimgrin untap add +1/+1 counter, repeat...activate Vigil using 1 million mana.

And by [cardname] I mean Ooze uses that ability (except Vigil obv)...

just once, i'd like to be at 1 million life with necrotic ooze combo...

Seems a lot of people are rusty, but at least they are coming back.

I suppose I should have mentioned mine would be in FL states. Thanks for the feedback on the multiplier though.

Are white versions not playing Razor Hippogriff? I mean I guess it depends on how many artifacts you run, but still I find it very useful. I played against a lot of Solar Flare and reoccurring Nihil Spellbomb is too funny lol. The lifegain can also be a bonus.

Who is going and what are you playing?

Does anyone know the Planeswalker Point Multiplier for this type of event?

It's probably dependent on TO or whatnot, but I've already e-mailed them and still waiting for response.

At the moment, I'm not sure about going, but if I did it would probably be a pod deck.

Quote from Jacethewalletstealer

How many Golems would you have if you cast Cackling Counterpart on your Precursor Golem?

Is it like this?

1Precusor Original with 2x Golem tokens in play.

Original Targeted - which stacks on the other two -
3x New Precursor Cackling Counterpart token's come into play, one for each existing Golem, when those 3 come into play, each one puts in 2 more golems, for 6 more.

so its 3+3+6=12 Golems?

i believe only precursor golem puts 2 more golems into play. The other 2 are simply golems and put 1 copy of itself into play.
3+3+1+1=8 golems (2 being precursor).

Edit: after looking in the rules section, it gets quite more complicated if there's 2 precursor golems in play and/or parallel lives, lol.

I put him in my pod deck, just a one of though. Then I pod up Grave Titan and next turn Elesh Norn and swing 14 damage.

Things hurt him that are currently played are: Incinerate, Dismember, Brimstone Volley, Divine Offering, Ancient Grudge, Doomblade, Dispatch, and some Act of Treason type cards.

That's a good list of cards, but I don't think that should scare you off playing him or at least trying him out.