Hmm well though I have been a fan of director David Lynch (and even sort of enjoyed his music album Crazy Clown Time check THAT out if anyone hasn't) this video was imho more or less unwatchable garbage and really ruined the song for me at first.
Luckily the new NIN album was/is streaming for free on itunes so I got to listen to that a couple of days ago and really enjoyed it--I'll probably buy the album.
Forgive me but I've only read about the first third of the article, it is quite long! I guess I agree with him in a sense because I haven't enjoyed the last 3 or 4 Zelda games at all to be quite honest. But I still find OOT to be the gold standard in 3D 3rd Person Adventure games. I don't where this guy gets off calling OOT broken or whatever he said.... It's like reminiscing about Mario Brothers but then crapping all over Super Mario World.
Yeah that's a great point I shouldn't have clogged up the thread with a needless post and should've just spent 10 seconds searching the arcade in game but anyways...
I have been using the unit tester a bit to practice things like general smart unit movement but also to test specific scenarios such as siege tank and widow mine engagements and drops. I JUST learned how to have the medivac drop units as its moving instead of just being a sitting duck the whole time. Super useful I can't believe the actual game doesn't describe stuff like that better.
I find that most of my losses are coming from either giant screw ups such as building the wrong thing or getting supply blocked badly, OR and this is the more important one, from moving out my army at the wrong time and leaving my front door too exposed to counter attack.
This has happened especially vs Protoss when I fail to scout or locate proxy gateways/pylons which EVERY Protoss appears to do it seems
I will be ahead in economy and usually upgrades if not army value but I just make some poor tactical judgments that throw the game. I am forcing myself to scout better and be more proactive with my sensor towers. The gas investment is ball breaking on those things but they've saved my ass so many times I can't even count lol.
I love the Terran race for sure and will probably never change but man do they have some challenging aspects. One mistake big or small can oftentimes be GG against a better opponent. But I love all the micro and harass opportunities available to them and the versatility of bioball plus widowmine/tank.
Anyone hear that Blizzard will be testing changes to the warp prism? Giving it free upgraded speed like the medivac to encourage more diverse Protoss play. Protoss play is very sort of stagnant and predictable at the pro levels of play compared with Zerg and Terran.
Zerg are a serious monster in terms of units and openings now. Roaches are such a mean unit to fight and a Roach/Hydra composition can get a Zerg easily through the midgame to where he can techswitch an unsuspecting opponent easily with swarm host or those freakign lighting fast mutas. Ling/Baneling into muta is still common as well. And I see all of this in bronze and silver play it's scary.
Just beat the mom for the first time in Binding of Isaac which I bought yesterday. I haven't gotten to the womb levels and all the crazy stuff so I still be planning to spend a lot of time with this poop smeared gem, lol.
Does anyone know some good solid resources for me to grab? I'm talking specifically about good downloads like maps and stuff to train on. I know there are micro/macro trainers and also unit generators to test stuff like 50 1/1 marines v 10 ultralisks or something like that. I think that'd be really useful in practicing stuff like marine splits v banelings and stuff like that. Does anyone know where to go for this?
I actually had a string of wins tonight in 2v2 with my buddy and to be honest I have to attribute it to watching filtersc's channel on youtube, it is easily the most straightforward, thorough, and helpful youtube video I have watched for this game.
The way filter breaks down the opening 10 minutes of correct standard Terran play just put so much in perspective for me. In some ways I had to start over in terms of play and strategy, but now the wins actually come easier in some ways. You work REALLY hard in those first 12-15 minutes to build and time correctly and then simply train, upgrade and hotkey correctly to start poking the map and denying expos. I know this seems like a "duh" statement for some of you but I think "truly" understanding the discipline of a proper opening just goes so far in improving all around play, at least it did for me today lol.
All the wins came off the back of well time engi bay upgrades with constant marine/medivac production and basic marine/stim micro skills.
I coined something I called the "Johnny Appleseed" harass tonight, I'm sure there's a more orthodox name for it lol. Since I'm still in the noob leagues (Gold) where most people have poor mini-map awareness and very little worker protection in some games I just load a medivac up w/ 4 widowmines and proceed to drop one at the third, one at the natural, and two at the main. I then begin to take my third behind this and move my marine/medivac force (with a few factory units mixed in) out onto the battlefield.
I can't express enough how much I'm loving this game. I know this isn't the most active of threads but it's great to have at least some discussion going on this great game for mtgsalvation.
Another quick Terran question. I've pretty much eliminated the option of Battlecruiser play from my games--I'd much rather continue to power my bio or just build banshees and vikings. Is it okay to continue this way or do some of you work BCs into you ladder matches?
Great discussion guys I feel like I've been in extreme sponge mode w/ this game for months.
That's a great tip Ferenczys about also hotkeying your upgrade structures to 5, I'm going to try that. A couple more questions for you guys.
Generally when do you build hellions and how much? In what MU? How important is the transition upgrade from hellbat/hellion and when/how is this useful in standard 1v1 play? I don't have much experience with this unit other than mixing it into my lategame push bioball. Any tips are appreciated.
My buddy who I play 2v2 with is also a Terran main and is preferred style of play (when we 1v1 each other) is marine/tank push with VERY greedy expand play sometimes. I'm wondering what a good counter to this type of play would be. In terms of our level of play we are pretty even--I know for a fact that I am a better scouter and (imho) a better tactician when it comes to micro engagements and playing off scout info. On the other hand he is probably a slightly better macro player than me and he is definitely much better at expanding.
I'm looking to hit him with something early that will fluster him. I have been looking up TvT proxy marauder builds (not necessarily all-ins, quick tech to banshee and some marines and then hopefully a GG) and these seem VERY solid (high diamond play). I still need to practice it thought against a CPU.
What else can I mix in with my occasional proxy marauder build that I will (hope to) perfect? Does anyone have a good link to a fast banshee in a TvT game?
I'm honestly looking for anything to exploit in the TvT matchup. Drops and doom drops are fun but I need some help here guys!
Just a quick update on my PC situation (I hate unresolved topics like this one):
I was actually going to buy that $700 MSI setup but as I was in Best Buy about to buy a sound card for it I was browsing through the PC department and saw a thousand dollar alienware tower marked down to $450!!!!!! I bought a 23in samsung monitor and two year protection on the package and now I am playing Starcraft 2 in glorious Extreme settings :-D
Thanks again for all your help guys, TLI. This alienware is a sort of two or three year investment to game on until I can get a super rig like some of you guys have/are building.
You the man 404 ERROR I appreciate the tips! I should add that I've also been reading the Terran help me thread over at teamliquid.net and it has been a huge help and it echoing a lot of what you are saying w/r/t the Zerg MU.
I've played practically every single day since that last post and have been steadily improving.
I am in the low silver now and will probably be there for a bit while I develop good macro/micro habits.
I've been spending more time training against the CPU to shore up build orders. I'm really just working on MMM 10min push with siege tanks and sometimes banshees if I feel confident enough against my opponent.
Getting a third base is honestly very difficult for me to do correctly so I'm really just sticking to two base builds and trying to end the game in 25 minutes. Really just trying to develop good habits. Scout better, especially against all the various BS Protoss all-ins available to them now. Nonstop training of SCVs and marines and avoiding supply blockage. Really just trying to get myself in an active mindset and avoid all the noob traps and bad habits.
Lately I've hardly fought any Zerg at all, just bookoos of Protoss and some Terran. Luckily bioball works fairly well against Protoss in silver leagues so I'm sticking with that.
I hear nothing, literally nothing but good things when talking about Widow Mines. But again I feel this is a micro-intensive unit that I am not ready to experiment with. I'm just sticking to siege tanks for defense and offense. Free siege in the new expansion is just SO awesome. I hope they don't patch that out!
I am seriously considering this one. I emailed the guy and he already replied back and he is in fact charging $700 for the whole shebang which seems good. Here is what he wrote:
"Yeah I lowered the price for a short time and never changed it. Lol. Sorry about that. It is $700. And trust me, with crysis 1 on full graphics and shading its running around 65 fps."
Thanks for the thoughtful replies everyone, but building my own is just not an option.
I'm thinking of going another route however, used computers. I was looking at craigslist for my area and saw a good 7 or 8 deals that seemed in my price range and with the specs that could play SC2 very well. I don't know if you guys have any experiences with buying used, and I'm sure most of you will probably recommend against it.
If anyone has a spare 20 minutes to help me make a decision here is the link:
Hello all, I hope this is the right forum for my question. I'm looking to get into PC gaming (specifically Starcraft) and was wondering if there's a good PC online somewhere to purchase that has a decent video card and power supply. I'm looking to spend in the $800ish range and really have no idea where to begin or how to sift through my choices. Thank you all for any help you can provide.
Yeah mang and it don't count if you, like, intend to eat a single chip.
Fact remains that if you was watching the superbowl or season finale of Walking Dead and a bowl of munchies was being passed around and it just so happened to be Lay's brand potato chips.... you'd probably grab a few.
to be honest, the most noob friendly race is probably protoss.
i would advise playing against computers first, and forcing yourself to use hotkeys whenever you can, no exceptions. Eventually they WILL become second nature.
the next step is to set command groups (select units/ buildings, press ctrl+#, then that # will select those units), and to practice selecting command groups in down time, and to use them whenever you can, eventually it'll be second nature. Try to remember to select buildings, to keep producing units, etc.
the most important thing is to just actively try to "do stuff" constantly while playing, you can't really just play over and over and expect to get significantly faster unfortunately
Thanks for the reply, can you explain why Protoss is the most noob-friendly? I figure I should just stick Terran now since that's what I've been using since the beginning. I'm playing again tonight at my buddy's for a few hours I'll let you know how it goes, lol.
My "doing stuff" has gotten much better since WOL believe it or not. I'm usually able to keep training workers for the first 10 minutes without too many slip ups. My command grouping is so-so. I always set my starting command center to 1 right out of the gate and try to get barracks on 2, factory, on 3, starport on 4, etc. Now let's say you build quite a few barracks, do you try and group them all on 1 or does it depend on the circumstances of the match?
Please please what is the easiest way to get your forces (for a drop or even for retreating from a drop) into medivacs? Sometimes we waste WAY too much time on this step when it should probably be instantaneous. I usually just select everything and then shift-click my medivacs but there must be something better.
Any tips for general early game harass? Sometimes this messes me up bad. A Zerg player drone-rushed me the other day and I just rage quite after a minute or so.
How the frell do I get my APM up? Me and my friend (who owns the good computer and the game) are full fledged Starcraft noobs. I've looked up build orders and we've won a few games but probably lose about 75% of our games in unranked MM. My APM floats right around 65 which is just abysmal. I guess all the hotkeys must just become second nature? I don't even want to be "good" at this game, I just want to improve.
We play exclusively Terran since they seem the most noob friendly and try to usually do some combination of MMM and/or Tanks. I just want a solid BO that I can use against ANY race and that will get me through the first ten minutes of a match optimally and in good position. There's not much advice to stop sucking though I guess.
Luckily the new NIN album was/is streaming for free on itunes so I got to listen to that a couple of days ago and really enjoyed it--I'll probably buy the album.
I have been using the unit tester a bit to practice things like general smart unit movement but also to test specific scenarios such as siege tank and widow mine engagements and drops. I JUST learned how to have the medivac drop units as its moving instead of just being a sitting duck the whole time. Super useful I can't believe the actual game doesn't describe stuff like that better.
I find that most of my losses are coming from either giant screw ups such as building the wrong thing or getting supply blocked badly, OR and this is the more important one, from moving out my army at the wrong time and leaving my front door too exposed to counter attack.
This has happened especially vs Protoss when I fail to scout or locate proxy gateways/pylons which EVERY Protoss appears to do it seems
I will be ahead in economy and usually upgrades if not army value but I just make some poor tactical judgments that throw the game. I am forcing myself to scout better and be more proactive with my sensor towers. The gas investment is ball breaking on those things but they've saved my ass so many times I can't even count lol.
I love the Terran race for sure and will probably never change but man do they have some challenging aspects. One mistake big or small can oftentimes be GG against a better opponent. But I love all the micro and harass opportunities available to them and the versatility of bioball plus widowmine/tank.
Anyone hear that Blizzard will be testing changes to the warp prism? Giving it free upgraded speed like the medivac to encourage more diverse Protoss play. Protoss play is very sort of stagnant and predictable at the pro levels of play compared with Zerg and Terran.
Zerg are a serious monster in terms of units and openings now. Roaches are such a mean unit to fight and a Roach/Hydra composition can get a Zerg easily through the midgame to where he can techswitch an unsuspecting opponent easily with swarm host or those freakign lighting fast mutas. Ling/Baneling into muta is still common as well. And I see all of this in bronze and silver play it's scary.
I actually had a string of wins tonight in 2v2 with my buddy and to be honest I have to attribute it to watching filtersc's channel on youtube, it is easily the most straightforward, thorough, and helpful youtube video I have watched for this game.
The way filter breaks down the opening 10 minutes of correct standard Terran play just put so much in perspective for me. In some ways I had to start over in terms of play and strategy, but now the wins actually come easier in some ways. You work REALLY hard in those first 12-15 minutes to build and time correctly and then simply train, upgrade and hotkey correctly to start poking the map and denying expos. I know this seems like a "duh" statement for some of you but I think "truly" understanding the discipline of a proper opening just goes so far in improving all around play, at least it did for me today lol.
All the wins came off the back of well time engi bay upgrades with constant marine/medivac production and basic marine/stim micro skills.
I coined something I called the "Johnny Appleseed" harass tonight, I'm sure there's a more orthodox name for it lol. Since I'm still in the noob leagues (Gold) where most people have poor mini-map awareness and very little worker protection in some games I just load a medivac up w/ 4 widowmines and proceed to drop one at the third, one at the natural, and two at the main. I then begin to take my third behind this and move my marine/medivac force (with a few factory units mixed in) out onto the battlefield.
I can't express enough how much I'm loving this game. I know this isn't the most active of threads but it's great to have at least some discussion going on this great game for mtgsalvation.
Another quick Terran question. I've pretty much eliminated the option of Battlecruiser play from my games--I'd much rather continue to power my bio or just build banshees and vikings. Is it okay to continue this way or do some of you work BCs into you ladder matches?
That's a great tip Ferenczys about also hotkeying your upgrade structures to 5, I'm going to try that. A couple more questions for you guys.
Generally when do you build hellions and how much? In what MU? How important is the transition upgrade from hellbat/hellion and when/how is this useful in standard 1v1 play? I don't have much experience with this unit other than mixing it into my lategame push bioball. Any tips are appreciated.
My buddy who I play 2v2 with is also a Terran main and is preferred style of play (when we 1v1 each other) is marine/tank push with VERY greedy expand play sometimes. I'm wondering what a good counter to this type of play would be. In terms of our level of play we are pretty even--I know for a fact that I am a better scouter and (imho) a better tactician when it comes to micro engagements and playing off scout info. On the other hand he is probably a slightly better macro player than me and he is definitely much better at expanding.
I'm looking to hit him with something early that will fluster him. I have been looking up TvT proxy marauder builds (not necessarily all-ins, quick tech to banshee and some marines and then hopefully a GG) and these seem VERY solid (high diamond play). I still need to practice it thought against a CPU.
What else can I mix in with my occasional proxy marauder build that I will (hope to) perfect? Does anyone have a good link to a fast banshee in a TvT game?
I'm honestly looking for anything to exploit in the TvT matchup. Drops and doom drops are fun but I need some help here guys!
I was actually going to buy that $700 MSI setup but as I was in Best Buy about to buy a sound card for it I was browsing through the PC department and saw a thousand dollar alienware tower marked down to $450!!!!!! I bought a 23in samsung monitor and two year protection on the package and now I am playing Starcraft 2 in glorious Extreme settings :-D
Thanks again for all your help guys, TLI. This alienware is a sort of two or three year investment to game on until I can get a super rig like some of you guys have/are building.
I've played practically every single day since that last post and have been steadily improving.
I am in the low silver now and will probably be there for a bit while I develop good macro/micro habits.
I've been spending more time training against the CPU to shore up build orders. I'm really just working on MMM 10min push with siege tanks and sometimes banshees if I feel confident enough against my opponent.
Getting a third base is honestly very difficult for me to do correctly so I'm really just sticking to two base builds and trying to end the game in 25 minutes. Really just trying to develop good habits. Scout better, especially against all the various BS Protoss all-ins available to them now. Nonstop training of SCVs and marines and avoiding supply blockage. Really just trying to get myself in an active mindset and avoid all the noob traps and bad habits.
Lately I've hardly fought any Zerg at all, just bookoos of Protoss and some Terran. Luckily bioball works fairly well against Protoss in silver leagues so I'm sticking with that.
I hear nothing, literally nothing but good things when talking about Widow Mines. But again I feel this is a micro-intensive unit that I am not ready to experiment with. I'm just sticking to siege tanks for defense and offense. Free siege in the new expansion is just SO awesome. I hope they don't patch that out!
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/sys/3753631019.html
I am seriously considering this one. I emailed the guy and he already replied back and he is in fact charging $700 for the whole shebang which seems good. Here is what he wrote:
"Yeah I lowered the price for a short time and never changed it. Lol. Sorry about that. It is $700. And trust me, with crysis 1 on full graphics and shading its running around 65 fps."
I really want this one what do you guys think?
I'm thinking of going another route however, used computers. I was looking at craigslist for my area and saw a good 7 or 8 deals that seemed in my price range and with the specs that could play SC2 very well. I don't know if you guys have any experiences with buying used, and I'm sure most of you will probably recommend against it.
If anyone has a spare 20 minutes to help me make a decision here is the link:
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/sys/
What do ya'll think of these?
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/sys/3722362760.html
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/sys/3696905765.html
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/sys/3765834162.html
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/sys/3641087312.html
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Thank you.
Fact remains that if you was watching the superbowl or season finale of Walking Dead and a bowl of munchies was being passed around and it just so happened to be Lay's brand potato chips.... you'd probably grab a few.
Thanks for the reply, can you explain why Protoss is the most noob-friendly? I figure I should just stick Terran now since that's what I've been using since the beginning. I'm playing again tonight at my buddy's for a few hours I'll let you know how it goes, lol.
My "doing stuff" has gotten much better since WOL believe it or not. I'm usually able to keep training workers for the first 10 minutes without too many slip ups. My command grouping is so-so. I always set my starting command center to 1 right out of the gate and try to get barracks on 2, factory, on 3, starport on 4, etc. Now let's say you build quite a few barracks, do you try and group them all on 1 or does it depend on the circumstances of the match?
Please please what is the easiest way to get your forces (for a drop or even for retreating from a drop) into medivacs? Sometimes we waste WAY too much time on this step when it should probably be instantaneous. I usually just select everything and then shift-click my medivacs but there must be something better.
Any tips for general early game harass? Sometimes this messes me up bad. A Zerg player drone-rushed me the other day and I just rage quite after a minute or so.
We play exclusively Terran since they seem the most noob friendly and try to usually do some combination of MMM and/or Tanks. I just want a solid BO that I can use against ANY race and that will get me through the first ten minutes of a match optimally and in good position. There's not much advice to stop sucking though I guess.