Quote from creamy99 »I need a revamp for this deck. Avatar of Woe was good for a while, but my meta changed. Now that I have fetches, Bloodghast is an option, but that Rites package just seems so much more inviting. So, Bloodghast or Unburial Rites + Elesh-Norn?
Quote from Sled_Dog »I don't care for rites since now you need white mana somewhere. I do like Vengeful Pharaoh though.
Quote from creamy99 »Thanks to the new Kharns fetches that were spoiled, I will be picking up fetch lands for this deck. I was thinking something along the lines of 3 Verdant Catacombs, 2 Bloodstained Mire and 3 Wooded Foothills.
Thoughts from the fellow players... Bloodghast vs Avatar of Woe?
Quote from forestlore44 »Has anyone ever tried dream twist instead of hedron crab in versions of this deck splashing blue? By the looks of it, it seems like an almost ancestral recall for dredge?
Quote from creamy99 »I have always loved the Rites package in the old Dredgevine lists from the older days. I give you props for running it.
But, without any removal with the exception of 2 Darkblast, and cards that are usually sideboard cards, how do you even win? Life from the Loam is good, but as a 2 of with 22 lands, it definitely seems out of place. I can see the Gnaw to the Bone from taking all the damage with fetch and shock lands.
Personally, just from looking at this without testing it, I think that moving the Darkblast to the sideboard and cutting Life from the Loam maybe altogether and replacing them with either Abrupt Decay or Lightning Bolt would do you a lot of good. Even Lightning Axe has potential to work here, but without some decent removal, I find it near impossible to push through all of the necessary damage. Bolt deals the final blow to players, Abrupt Decay deals with Goyf and Lilliana. Getting these out of the way is essential.
Against the decks you said, Darkblast works well vs Soul Sisters, Affinity and Delver. It is terrible vs Pod, Control and Mono-G. Just seems logical to me to be a sideboard card. When I first started playing Dredgevine a year ago, I was gung ho on Darkblast as a 3-4 of because it could dredge. After a few months, I decided to switch it to the SB and replaced it with Bolt. Where I didn't reuse it, I was able to kill the annoying creatures Darkblast couldn't deal with and I started becoming so much more consistent and faster. Just trying to provide some useful suggestions. I'm sure someone from this thread can back me up on this.
I would have thought Echo Mage to be a invitational card.