MTG Salvation

You get 5 more playable cards than an FTV boxed set, 10 unplayable oversized cards 4lulz, a different life counter from the one you get in FTV (but still another life counter), a bunch of go tiles, and diarrhea-quality ultra pro sleeves with foiling that will probably weaken them because i haven't met a sleeve yet that doesn't have a negative response to having additional bull plop added to it.

for the privilege of these mostly useless added content, you pay more than twice the price at MSRP.

all i'm saying is there'd better be the new-art FOW foil in those 18 cards.

http://dogandponyshowwebsite.com/todays-top-story-papa-john-vows-to-raise-pizza-prices-because-of-obamacare/

I just posted this elsewhere, but we seriously have to do something about this obama guy... Papa John is going to have to start charging 15-20 more CENTS per pizza because he has to pay for his worker's healthcare and it's just WRECKING his bottom line!

bLatch, you literally said "You are a racist" because I met your qualifier. That is, once again literally, calling me a racist. That is what you said. Do not say, "thats not what I said" That is the unedited, complete text of the things you said.

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No. Because thats not what I said. Now, we've established I'm not going to apologize so you can stop asking me to.

The literal content of your post is:
If you are admitting to be one of the users who uses the n-word then I have no qualms with the folowing: You are a racist. You post racist slurs.

I have used the n-word. I am not a racist. Saying a racist word does not make you a racist. Affect makes you a racist. Hate makes you a racist. Intent makes you a racist. Do not call me a racist. Do not flame me, or my friends on this board, by calling them racists. That's the very bigoted affect you seem to be under the impression you're fighting against.

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If you are admitting to be one of the users who uses the n-word then I have no qualms with the folowing: You are a racist. You post racist slurs.

If you are not one of the users who does the same, then you may or may not be a racist I have no way of knowing. What I do know is that you are actively fostering an environment that harbors the use of racist epithets.



It's funny because of the two of us, the one decrying guilt by association here is you.

I stand by what I said.

You said I am a racist because I have ever, regardless of context, said ******. And I don't like being called names in polite conversation. Please apologize.

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I actually particularly didn't use the term Black in any post in this thread for people of that race. kthanxbye.

You were making bigoted statements, repeated and unabashedly, and I edited the content to better clarify why they were bigoted statements.
Your post implied I was bigoted in some way. The turn of phrase when one person claims a person is doing the same thing they are is pot:kettle::black. Because you substituted "gang members" for "blacks" in your bigoted statements, I did the opposite and replaced black with gang members.

I'm sorry you missed the joke, I guess I shouldn't be joking when I'm actively pretty upset that actual bigotry is permissible.

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I did not say you are racists, I said the only reason I can think of to maintain the Non-SFW rules (IE not follow the PG-13 guidelines of the rest of the site) was "we like swearing and being racists".

By your admitted standard, the only reason a person would use language you deem racist is because they are racist. The implication of that is that a person who uses language you deem racist (Gutter members) is racist.

Because you have outwardly said that Gutter members post words you deem racist, by merit of your own, repeated admission, we are racists. Please apologize, I do not appreciate being called a racist, particularly both directly and indirectly, when I'm trying to engage others in polite discussion.

Quote from Harkius

You're a ****ing hypocrite, Kijin.

Bigotry and ignorance are not races, Harkius, but I guess the case here is pot:kettle::blackgang member.

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See here's the issue: We have a disagreement. I didn't post what I posted to troll you guys. I didn't say it because I think it would make you angry. I said it because I think its true.

I don't think the gutter serves any purpose other than as a place where people can swear and use racist epithets (AKA be racist).

You claim it's misrepresenting you. I claim it is not.

We disagree.

Does that solve you're confusion?

Yes. I demand you apologize to me for calling me a racist and hope a staff member infracts you for flaming me for such.

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The perception of elitism is a burden that you choose to carry. The gutter has two simple rules and not following them can cause issues. Not complex.

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The Gutterites want to be free to say just about whatever they want, however they want, so long as it falls short of actual hate speech, and they're trying to maintain a group of users who are mature enough to be trusted to do that. That's about the size of it.

Thanks for coming out tonight guys, you've been great.

Quote from bLatch

I did not misrepresent anything, and unless you can prove otherwise I'm not going to "back down" or "admit to lying" (because I didn't). Ironic, isn't it, that the only way to prove otherwise is to do the very thing I'm asking you to do.

You directly called me and everyone else in the Gutter a racist. Is it that hard to comprehend?

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I don't think that's a bad thing. Usually, the people who get annoyed by this say, "But he's a good person, even if he's black!" The rest of us say, "Uh...he's black?!?"

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So curiosity gets the best of me: Gutter members, how much (if anything) in your posting would change if anyone was able to access the gutter and it was not kept secret/semi-secret? (assuming no posting rules are changed).

assuming there weren't more of these goddamn drama threads, probably not at all.

i can confidently say the same for most of the rest of the gutter members.

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Protip: Don't want to be labeled based on who you hang with? Don't hang with them.

Protip: that is the kind of ideation that proves that racism and other segregationist (and worse) -isms have nothing to do with racial/etc language.