I suppose I worded that poorly. What I meant was that the show doesn't treat the stereotypically flamboyant characters as stereotypes (unlike say Queer Eye or Will & Grace, which are all about stereotypes for stereotypes' sake), but as full characters representing that section of the community. I just don't view these characters as stereotypes because QAF has a wide array of characters who don't fit these stereotypes so the cast as a whole is a more or less realistic portrayal of the gay community.
Although my quote may vaguely suggest otherwise, I wasn't saying these stereotypes don't exist.
can we just get rid of all the Gay shows (atleast the 3 mentioned in that post) because they really do no good. they promote stereotypes, they are annoying, and really just act as fingernails ona blackboard.
Gay media, is not helping the gay marriage agenda.
The teacher had every right to tell you your beliefs are wrong. After all, if you believe this is a freedom issue, why is your freedom to spend you dollar as you chose any more valid than her (his?) freedom of speech? Ok, you have a right to be stingy, myopic, and tight with your money. But she has the right to tell you what you are doing is wrong. What makes her opinion of what you should do with your money any less valid than yours, since we are talking about the free exchange of moral values here, not of the actual $1.00? Before this unravels into a "what's wrong with the way teachers coddle students in school these days" tyrade," let me try and make this clear.
Huzzah, you win. you hit the nail on the proverbial head with that. if this an issue of free thought and expression of that thought, then the teachers opinion, and expression of it is no less valuble than your infantile maoney grubbing.
(though, technically no one on the show is really much of a stereotypes, can't be a stereotype if there are actual people out there like that.) .
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what are you talking about. Just because some peopel fit it, doesn't mean its not a stereotype. Are there some black men out there who commit crime, yes, are there some Native Americans out there that are Alcoholics, are there some Jews out there who focus entirely on money and are cheap, yes, But not all of any of those groups are that way. They hold true to some people, but they are still stereotypes.
EDIT, and still, no one has presented a single (valid) non-religious reason why gay marriage should not be allowed.
Being around so many gays, it's true for the most part. Ever heard of speed? It seems to be the new 'gay drug'. And trust me, anonymous sex happens more often than you think in the gay community. So it's not far from the truth, I know from experience.
the problem with that, is the only reason you believe that is because most of the people who are obvious, to the larger public, as homosexuals, are that way because they do these hedonistic things. Most of the gays i know do not do this in any way shape or form. most are in monogomous (sp) relationships, and are not doing drugs. At school 90% of my time is spent with peopel of a non-traditional sexuality (gays, Bis, etc) (im a drama/english major at a school in New york state.) The problem, is that most peopel only see the Stereotypical gays, because they stand out.
wow that post is so fractured and rambly. I shouldn;t attempt real thought at 12:30 AM
If this thread was called "Judge DotP's actions" then yes, we're letting him off the hook. But it's not. So, just stop.
I'm sorry, but if we are gonna lay into this teacher for over stepping, then we must also lay into DotP. I mean, there's a difference between freedom of thouhgt in school and being childish and combative, IN SCHOOL.
THAT is what we're discussing. Whether or not DotP was right, or stupid, or whatever, is a different issue.
what he did was out of line too. Interupting the class, esentially telling the teacher she was wrong. Acting like a ****ing 3 year old. How are any of these things ok? why are we letting DotP off the hook, when he too is at fault?
So I can call you a total ass and you don't deserve any sympathy?
Yes, donating money to it is great but...blah, just refer to my previous post.
Then what are we discussing, he refused, out right refused, stating that his money was his own and they didn't deserve. I fail to see why we aren't discussing this. God i hate human beings, they are so ****ing petty, and self absorbed.
I suspect that if DotP had spoken to his teacher in private and said that he didn't want to donate, that she would not have reacted as she did. As it was, he put on an air of bravado to try and impress his classmates with his indulgent materialism and provoked the reaction; certainly, the teacher overreacted, but it's unsusprising that she was so taken aback by DotP's blatant selfishness.
Exactly, he acted like a total ass, and as a result, was put in his place. he derserves no sympathy or consoling, or anything, he got what he derserved for being a prick. It's disgusting.
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Nope, sadly Zoneace, DotP is from Canada. But it's funny you thought he was American from his attitude. Poor America, all stereotyped.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go start a fire. My igloo is cold and my pet polar bear needs to go for a walk.
poor america? Im sorry, im an american, we really don't derserve sympathy, most of us are heartless money grubbing, soul suckers. WE drain every other country, and do everything possible to promote our selves, no matter what the cost.
DOTP, are you an American? Because if you are, you are a perfecrt example of why most of the world Hates americans. Do you know what the natives of the countries who got hit by teh Tsunami did fo the tourists, they helped them, the natives, the one's who actaully LOST everything they had, gave up stuff, to aid foreign tourists, who had cushy homes, in richer countries to go back to. you, who lives in a country (even if its not america) that is much better off than any of the ones facing this tragedy ont he front line, refuse to give up a single dollar to help. You are a disgusting human being, and I'm ashamed to share the planet with you.
I understand arguing principles, i do it, often, but in a case liek this, for something so serious, and tragic, you have to get over yourself and prove that you are not a souless, void of humanity.
can we just get rid of all the Gay shows (atleast the 3 mentioned in that post) because they really do no good. they promote stereotypes, they are annoying, and really just act as fingernails ona blackboard.
Gay media, is not helping the gay marriage agenda.
Huzzah, you win. you hit the nail on the proverbial head with that. if this an issue of free thought and expression of that thought, then the teachers opinion, and expression of it is no less valuble than your infantile maoney grubbing.
what are you talking about. Just because some peopel fit it, doesn't mean its not a stereotype. Are there some black men out there who commit crime, yes, are there some Native Americans out there that are Alcoholics, are there some Jews out there who focus entirely on money and are cheap, yes, But not all of any of those groups are that way. They hold true to some people, but they are still stereotypes.
EDIT, and still, no one has presented a single (valid) non-religious reason why gay marriage should not be allowed.
the problem with that, is the only reason you believe that is because most of the people who are obvious, to the larger public, as homosexuals, are that way because they do these hedonistic things. Most of the gays i know do not do this in any way shape or form. most are in monogomous (sp) relationships, and are not doing drugs. At school 90% of my time is spent with peopel of a non-traditional sexuality (gays, Bis, etc) (im a drama/english major at a school in New york state.) The problem, is that most peopel only see the Stereotypical gays, because they stand out.
wow that post is so fractured and rambly. I shouldn;t attempt real thought at 12:30 AM
That show is a sham. Its a bunch of stereotypes that do nothing but have sex and do drugs. its disgusting.
I'm sorry, but if we are gonna lay into this teacher for over stepping, then we must also lay into DotP. I mean, there's a difference between freedom of thouhgt in school and being childish and combative, IN SCHOOL.
what he did was out of line too. Interupting the class, esentially telling the teacher she was wrong. Acting like a ****ing 3 year old. How are any of these things ok? why are we letting DotP off the hook, when he too is at fault?
Flame warning. -Senori
Then what are we discussing, he refused, out right refused, stating that his money was his own and they didn't deserve. I fail to see why we aren't discussing this. God i hate human beings, they are so ****ing petty, and self absorbed.
Exactly, he acted like a total ass, and as a result, was put in his place. he derserves no sympathy or consoling, or anything, he got what he derserved for being a prick. It's disgusting.
poor america? Im sorry, im an american, we really don't derserve sympathy, most of us are heartless money grubbing, soul suckers. WE drain every other country, and do everything possible to promote our selves, no matter what the cost.
I understand arguing principles, i do it, often, but in a case liek this, for something so serious, and tragic, you have to get over yourself and prove that you are not a souless, void of humanity.
dude, hes gonna eat you young.
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dude, gow up seriously.:evilbaby: :evilbaby: :evilbaby: :evilbaby:
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oh goddie, an MT reject.
Flame Warning. -TNK
please tell me that is Devil's advocate again, cause that show is pure ****.
yes, tha was spam, as were the last few posts. Nows, lets try to keep it on topic.
Ok, so, would anyone like to give me any non-religious reasons why he or she is opposed to allowing Gay Marriage?