Can't wait for the mods to come back and admit the instant deletion of the FtV leak was a mistake. Only thing I can figure is they got a C&D or something. The only excuse they had was "the font looked wrong."
Hardly. I'm technically the only mod to have received a C&D from Wizards and it was for something else. I forget who deleted it, but it's likely because it was completely unsubstantiated and as you mentioned, a wrong font. Those are really big strikes. Ignoring hindsight, it would be deleted again.
However, now that you mention it, I'll go take a look into whether it warrants being unarchived.
I read that as "we have heard everyone hates set prerelease promo rares, so were adding a little more variance".
I read it as "Stores have been complaining that they continually run out of one pack, which makes players upset, because there's always one pack better than the rest, so we add variance so people won't go after the good card."
EDIT: After comparing the texts it still looks fake. Looking closely at Cataclysm and Smokestack, the T's on each look like they have the tail, where Beleren has no tail on its T. If someone could get a clearer picture showing the T's to be tailless, I'd be happy to open it up to discussion...
And I don't see how your quoted post answers my post. Explain please.
A) The question is "I mentioned "Large/small" dichotomies of groupings. How do I explain myself?"
B) I quote my posts where I state besides the 3 normal groups (info, vig and doc), Seppel fell into a 4th category, "Utility".
C) No one else has claimed a secondary utility role.
* Killjoy is a semi-direct counterclaim. (they can still be scum together though)
* Cyan is a direct counterclaim. Because... Cyan can self-protect! A self-protecting doc AND a bulletproof in one town? I don't think so. That's two times the same role. (docs almost always self-protect when they can)
A bulletproof scum? Yes, that makes sense. There's a SK, a 1-shot vig and a supplier that hands out killing devices. Scum need protection from that.
unvote, vote TK
Shoot either Cantrip or KillJoy.
Neither are a counterclaim. I never claimed to be a protective role (or any role for that matter). Wheat merely saw a BP vest on me, not that I was a protective role. Apparently, he cannot see abilities...
I could keep you all guessing. It's quite amusing watching you fumble about.
Suckers. It's beneath these spoils.
I'm a 1-shot backup. On night 1, I targeted KJ, and received a vest.
Wow. Who knew small satellites were so busy as to completely sell out every hotel in my town?
Anyway. Bulletproof. Worst claim ever, but it makes sense since we had a "big" killing role with the SK, and a "little" killing role with 1-shot vig, a "big" investigative item-cop and a "little" investigative with a death-cop. That would make Cyan the "big" doctor role with KJ being the "little" doctor role.
If TK is BP, then his whole "big" vs "little" roles post is contrived. He would clearly have to include himself in parallel with KJ's role. Maybe he doesn't claim it in that post, but if he was town BP and honestly trying to figure it out the "little" vs "big" thing shouldn't make sense to him and I don't think he would post it. And while he says worst claim ever, wouldn't town-BP-TK CC KJ there?
True, they are assumptions, but I am normally loathe to lynch power.
I will note that I didn't forget Seppel's killing ability. Since his role name was supplier, I actually placed him in the category "JoATs/Inventors/Fishers/Etc." (better known as "Utility"). I'm assuming he could do more, but just hadn't been able to.
Is there any chance that this could be a scum role? It seems like town has a good deal of power. Someone more experienced than me, please chime in.
Also, why is WG near confirmed town again?
A resurrection ability is extremely powerful for mafia, not to mention potentially problematic if we were down to 2vs2. Even a successful lynch would allow the mafiate to kill a townie and control the vote. I considered making the Phoenix role in Marvel Madness 2 (a townie) a resurrector, and it was too swingy. In a normal game, I'd consider it to be townie-only and being conditional makes it sound believable.
As for Wheat, he's been keeping claims honest, not outing everyone and helping the town. So the two options are that he's town, or that he's mafia who is going about town-clearing when possible. Since town-clearing is detrimental to mafia, Occam's Razor suggests he's town.
Also, WTF is this? Resurrection? Where did that come from?
The ability to be killed and continue living falls under the purview of resurrection type abilities. KJ's claim should be weaker than a true resurrection because I doubt there would be a full reveal. It would be stronger than a ghost who can talk as town-cleared, but has no vote.
I want to lynch karn. But apparently he is so town that they are thinking of changing the definition to 'town' in the dictionary to reference him according to some.
Then I wanted to lynch hawk and apparently lying in a game having just sheeped every final wagon using that lie and not needing to commit to anything before hand due to the 'need to hammer' is also indicative of towniness.
So I'd rather see the claim that can be proven one way or another be tested, unless someone wants to offer up a better lynch, in which case I'm listening.
You're reasoning makes sense, though I disagree with the methods. This cuts another off my POE list, narrowing who could be mafia within the unknowns. We can kill supposed vanillas rather than taking potshots at claimed power and reducing town effectiveness.
Is there any chance that this could be a scum role? It seems like town has a good deal of power. Someone more experienced than me, please chime in.
Also, why is WG near confirmed town again?
A resurrection ability is extremely powerful for mafia, not to mention potentially problematic if we were down to 2vs2. Even a successful lynch would allow the mafiate to kill a townie and control the vote. I considered making the Phoenix role in Marvel Madness 2 (a townie) a resurrector, and it was too swingy. In a normal game, I'd consider it to be townie-only and being conditional makes it sound believable.
As for Wheat, he's been keeping claims honest, not outing everyone and helping the town. So the two options are that he's town, or that he's mafia who is going about town-clearing when possible. Since town-clearing is detrimental to mafia, Occam's Razor suggests he's town.
True, they are assumptions, but I am normally loathe to lynch power.
I will note that I didn't forget Seppel's killing ability. Since his role name was supplier, I actually placed him in the category "JoATs/Inventors/Fishers/Etc." (better known as "Utility"). I'm assuming he could do more, but just hadn't been able to.
Wow. Who knew small satellites were so busy as to completely sell out every hotel in my town?
Anyway. Bulletproof. Worst claim ever, but it makes sense since we had a "big" killing role with the SK, and a "little" killing role with 1-shot vig, a "big" investigative item-cop and a "little" investigative with a death-cop. That would make Cyan the "big" doctor role with KJ being the "little" doctor role.
Ugh, so I was working out a POE list on who was the best choice for lynch/dayvig. Now it's all screwed up from Hawk's claim going PR > VT. I'm strong for LnGrrR because of Shockwave, except my reservation about killing replacements the day they replaced. Hunger's been a huge town read for me. I've stated my view on Generic's likelihood as town in 717. Hawk, I'm not super thrilled about the lie, but I understand trying to draw an NK as vanilla, since that's a vanilla's duty. As I've been reading Killjoy, there are a few things that don't sit well with me. Post 291 he resists the Antny wagon. Post 294, he mentions cyan avoiding questions until Antny is mislynched. Antny was not even close to looking town, so why use the suggestion of fear that he's town about to be lynched?
I don't care about a mass claim. Either we end up with my POE list (did Karn claim a PR? I don't remember one and he's not on my list...) or the mafia pigeon-hole themselves into claims that are easily tested.
Yeah, I realized I forgot him. I'd place him in slot number 5, moving Hunger and myself down to 6 and 7. Both Wheat and Cantrip have claimed a power role; Wheat's is believable as town (this is a bias though), and Cantrip's appears strange enough for me to accept it as town in my POE.
I don't care about a mass claim. Either we end up with my POE list (did Karn claim a PR? I don't remember one and he's not on my list...) or the mafia pigeon-hole themselves into claims that are easily tested.
However, now that you mention it, I'll go take a look into whether it warrants being unarchived.I read it as "Stores have been complaining that they continually run out of one pack, which makes players upset, because there's always one pack better than the rest, so we add variance so people won't go after the good card."
EDIT: After comparing the texts it still looks fake. Looking closely at Cataclysm and Smokestack, the T's on each look like they have the tail, where Beleren has no tail on its T. If someone could get a clearer picture showing the T's to be tailless, I'd be happy to open it up to discussion...
A) The question is "I mentioned "Large/small" dichotomies of groupings. How do I explain myself?"
B) I quote my posts where I state besides the 3 normal groups (info, vig and doc), Seppel fell into a 4th category, "Utility".
C) No one else has claimed a secondary utility role.
Neither are a counterclaim. I never claimed to be a protective role (or any role for that matter). Wheat merely saw a BP vest on me, not that I was a protective role. Apparently, he cannot see abilities...
I could keep you all guessing. It's quite amusing watching you fumble about.
I'm a 1-shot backup. On night 1, I targeted KJ, and received a vest.
The ability to be killed and continue living falls under the purview of resurrection type abilities. KJ's claim should be weaker than a true resurrection because I doubt there would be a full reveal. It would be stronger than a ghost who can talk as town-cleared, but has no vote.
A resurrection ability is extremely powerful for mafia, not to mention potentially problematic if we were down to 2vs2. Even a successful lynch would allow the mafiate to kill a townie and control the vote. I considered making the Phoenix role in Marvel Madness 2 (a townie) a resurrector, and it was too swingy. In a normal game, I'd consider it to be townie-only and being conditional makes it sound believable.
As for Wheat, he's been keeping claims honest, not outing everyone and helping the town. So the two options are that he's town, or that he's mafia who is going about town-clearing when possible. Since town-clearing is detrimental to mafia, Occam's Razor suggests he's town.
I will note that I didn't forget Seppel's killing ability. Since his role name was supplier, I actually placed him in the category "JoATs/Inventors/Fishers/Etc." (better known as "Utility"). I'm assuming he could do more, but just hadn't been able to.
Anyway. Bulletproof. Worst claim ever, but it makes sense since we had a "big" killing role with the SK, and a "little" killing role with 1-shot vig, a "big" investigative item-cop and a "little" investigative with a death-cop. That would make Cyan the "big" doctor role with KJ being the "little" doctor role.
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@Generic: Do you disbelieve KJ's role?