It's significantly worse against the best deck with the current spoilers, but it's so good still you have to run it.
It's also not that bad if you can build up a good board later. It can be a 3 mana sorcery tap down on turn 3 against Zombies. If they're curving out they'll have to spend two mana, and a card to stop it which is a big deal for aggro.
This card only plays friendly with Snapcaster Mage on the flashback (1 cmc instants wanted) in any blue deck that will play him. You don't need to open yourself up to card disadvantage when you still have Snapcaster, Restoration Angel, and Geist of Saint Traft post rotation.
He's a better blocker, but you don't want to block with your ticking time bomb. When he dies you lose major card advantage. And the cards you're exiling are meant to keep your card advantage up too. You have a limited supply of 1 drop cards you'll play. And counters are bad now, you can't protect him. All the other options don't need protection.
When you play him you're looking to 'get there' and close out the game, but I don't think he does it so much better than anything else that you need to exile your spells.
Did you not read any of the thread? Counting on and building around him exiling is, in my opinion, stupid. Making use of spells that would otherwise be countered? That's good. For a one drop, his effect is amazing. Who cares if he dies to removal? A lot of things do, removal is a crappy argument.
No one should ever say that a card that is designed around two/three for one-ing yourself doesn't lose significant value without any protection.
Dies to removal is a valid argument, and is why people liked Titans, and play Geist of Saint Traft. Knee-jerk 'stop talking about removal' is more prevalent than 'dies to removal' and it's hurting proper evaluation.
Also I think he was talking about Standard. A format where so far counters are a very rare thing, and dead cards are not often drawn.
Boo hoo, you're spreading misinformation, and he stopped you.
When the next bomb rare has "tap a dude you control: Something actually good" you won't look bad.
Also some people I think haven't played standard in years and are just assuming they know what cards compete for Titanage.
Why does Squadron Hawk and Emeria Angel need to be mentioned? Are people adding Hawks because full price Spectral Precession, or is it for ridiculous card advantage, early pressure, and infinite chump blocks?
People have clarified this more than enough "If you're spending six mana on that, then why not just cast a titan?".
I want to see a non-emotional ban list, the people playing Modern won't find Jaces and Batterskulls more annoying than infinite 1/4s, or 20+ damage Grapeshots.
Yes, because this thread is about how mono-blue decks singlehandedly dominate standard. Your reading comprehension skills are impressive!
Again, very impressive reading comprehension.
Your ego doesn't make you any less wrong about all the correct points people bring up. And it's laughable that you think that people are getting off topic when they're just responding to you saying such retarded things like 'this is mini Yawgmoth's Will'.
Why do you even post on MTG Salvation if you don't want an argument? If you're done talking about it then an honest suggestion is play Yu-Gi-Oh, it's an aggressive metagame and control is underrepresented. And if you don't like it then email Wizards, not me in a raging PM.
example: before release, jace, the mind sculptor was available for a fairly cheap price (relatively speaking).
the card sellers sold a whole bunch of them, and then quickly realised they made a mistake when they had to buy them back at a higher price.
now, just to cover their butts, they price up every new planeswalker way too high, to avoid the mistake.
I wonder, have you seen any great beaters of past with regeneration to re-emerge from their slumber in card-boxes? I didn't, regeneration doesn't matter that much in modern, it's fast format and if someone wastes mana at regeneration of miserable threats that can be : StP or Pathed, gosh, he fails cuz he could be gaining tempo instead.
Confirmed good in EDH, $30+ card.
It's also not that bad if you can build up a good board later. It can be a 3 mana sorcery tap down on turn 3 against Zombies. If they're curving out they'll have to spend two mana, and a card to stop it which is a big deal for aggro.
He's a better blocker, but you don't want to block with your ticking time bomb. When he dies you lose major card advantage. And the cards you're exiling are meant to keep your card advantage up too. You have a limited supply of 1 drop cards you'll play. And counters are bad now, you can't protect him. All the other options don't need protection.
When you play him you're looking to 'get there' and close out the game, but I don't think he does it so much better than anything else that you need to exile your spells.
No one should ever say that a card that is designed around two/three for one-ing yourself doesn't lose significant value without any protection.
Dies to removal is a valid argument, and is why people liked Titans, and play Geist of Saint Traft. Knee-jerk 'stop talking about removal' is more prevalent than 'dies to removal' and it's hurting proper evaluation.
Also I think he was talking about Standard. A format where so far counters are a very rare thing, and dead cards are not often drawn.
Boo hoo, you're spreading misinformation, and he stopped you.
When the next bomb rare has "tap a dude you control: Something actually good" you won't look bad.
Also some people I think haven't played standard in years and are just assuming they know what cards compete for Titanage.
Why does Squadron Hawk and Emeria Angel need to be mentioned? Are people adding Hawks because full price Spectral Precession, or is it for ridiculous card advantage, early pressure, and infinite chump blocks?
People have clarified this more than enough "If you're spending six mana on that, then why not just cast a titan?".
I sure hope he was against the bannings then, if he wasn't then what the hell did he expect when you ban control from an eternal format?
Stop thinking that life matters in 2011.
Your ego doesn't make you any less wrong about all the correct points people bring up. And it's laughable that you think that people are getting off topic when they're just responding to you saying such retarded things like 'this is mini Yawgmoth's Will'.
Why do you even post on MTG Salvation if you don't want an argument? If you're done talking about it then an honest suggestion is play Yu-Gi-Oh, it's an aggressive metagame and control is underrepresented. And if you don't like it then email Wizards, not me in a raging PM.
Stop trying to make them good.
And I hate this.
Durdle around in http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.php for awhile and watch the trends.
Tezzeret the Seeker? 15$ starting price.
Tezzeret Agent of Post-Jace? 50$ starting price.
Something changed in the market when Jace hit. That something keeps me from playing planeswalkers for their first few months out.
And the world of 0-2 drop turns.
You just opened my eyes.
Guys, stop using forums, there's no point in talking about anything ever unless LSV did it first.