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  • posted a message on Commander Legend Spoiler Season starts on the 12th of October
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    Magic has been super dead for me. While I'm still excited to look at new cards I'm not playing very much. They seriously need to cool it with the product release or re-organize the product releases in a way that makes sense. Cut the booster box level releases to 4x a year at the most. Then if they want to release a new secret lair every month sure.
    There were 8x booster box types sets this year. It has to stop.


    You want WotC to slow down their product roll of products you don’t buy and have no attention of buying anytime soon? Makes plenty of sense to me.




    well... i think that plays into a larger point and isn't necessarily fair to write it all off like that

    we were talking about it in a local shop yesterday. we're just absolutely bombarded with products, but those products over the past year seem to have lost focus. theyre oriented more around chasing a gimmick, or chasing mythics, than producing something higher quality that people want to buy repeatedly on its own merit. one great point the store owner brought up is that his newer customers and less whale-like customers end up feeling overwhelmed with product options. they come in to buy some packs, but they can buy these other packs for just a few dollars more that'll have more of this other thing in it, and for a few dollars more than that they can buy a different pack of the same set that has even more odds of getting this or that. trouble is, then they feel the lower priced product isn't worth it, and the higher priced product is priced too high so they walk away feeling ripped off no matter which option they go for. he's also sold out on a ton of product before most can even get it because whales will come in and buy it all to get those few hot cards, or conversely someone who isn't a whale gets really lucky and cracks some alt art foil showcase card and comes back to buy him out just like people do when they win money on scratchers. while product is moving faster and better, there is definitely an atmosphere of discontent and being overwhelmed by those that aren't getting lucky and those are the customers that have come in less.

    it'd be great if there were fewer releases, but at a higher quality. more exploration of themes, less need to ban, more power across all rarities. i mean, some of these sets you still can't find but we're on to the next one before anyone can even realize it. it means the people with the money, who preordered, get to experience it and most others simply don't.

    they've pushed the you're going to miss out angle so hard, and after awhile people feel like they are missing out... so what's the point? why keep buying? why keep maintaining? but those are the customers they dont' hear from, they just drop off as other people buy more which presents really flawed sales data. you can sell a ton of product and still have an unhealthy game.

    i'd also wager this is a huge reason commander has surged in popularity recently. the toxic standard environments necessitating ban waves, the lack of support for other formats, the product bombardment, throw in some covid canceling limited events and what are people going to play? the nonrotating format that covers the breadth of their collection, which will be at hand, and they can play with friends at home or over discord.

    anyway, regarding spoilers for this set... i'm cautiously pessimistic.

    i want to hope for the best, i want something amazing, something that i'll want to buy cases of, but given the track record i don't expect it. i don't even expect to be able to find the product without preordering. what i do expect is to see some mediocre reprints that no one really needed, a lack of power at common and uncommon, some creative ideas that were reigned in really hard at rare, some absolutely format warping cards at mythic or a couple of extremely in demand reprints at mythic... and not much else. i think its really safe to assume if its been reprint this year already it won't be reprint here, and that knocks out a tremendous amount of cards that edh players actually want. the admittedly miniscule number of spoilers we've already received haven't really done anything to spark interest in me yet because it feels like more of the same, and this is really the only format i even play any more.

    the product fatigue is real even here, where it should be hype instead. there is just so much printed lately, and so much printed with an edh slant, that it has become difficult to keep up - not just with the information, but the ever changing introduction of new powerful cards (mostly at mythic) aimed squarely at edh players. there's a point where simply too much product competes for the same dollars, and once you hit that point it becomes really easy to just walk away in favor of something that won't feel like a wallet vacuum.


    I never understood this argument of “I have to keep up with the Joneses” in Magic. That may have included me back in ‘03, but nowadays I have a strict shopping list I adhere to and I never deviate from it when new premier sets come out. If something new is released I have to have, very cool, it gets added. But people may want to be more disciplined in what they chase after. The only way new things get added to my buy list is if WotC releases products the way that they do.
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  • posted a message on Commander Legend Spoiler Season starts on the 12th of October
    Quote from SpeedGrapher »
    Magic has been super dead for me. While I'm still excited to look at new cards I'm not playing very much. They seriously need to cool it with the product release or re-organize the product releases in a way that makes sense. Cut the booster box level releases to 4x a year at the most. Then if they want to release a new secret lair every month sure.
    There were 8x booster box types sets this year. It has to stop.


    You want WotC to slow down their product roll of products you don’t buy and have no attention of buying anytime soon? Makes plenty of sense to me.
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  • posted a message on Secret lair - Showcase: Zendikar revisited
    Thank God this isn’t something I want. I’m putting my credit card back into my wallet. But keep them coming, seriously. They’re bound to hit on Secret Lair: Slivers, or something I want eventually.
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  • posted a message on [ZNR] Lithoform Engine— MTGGoldfish preview
    I’m considering running this in my cEDH Slivers deck. There’s 58 Slivers with copyable triggered or activated abilities. And since I’m a guessing man, we’ll see more brand new Slivers in Modern Horizons 2.
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  • posted a message on [ZNR] Charix, the Raging Isle
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    Why THE EVER LOVING HELL was Zendikar ever afraid of the Eldrazi when they had THIS THING lying around????


    To be fair, Emrakul has flying, Ulamog could target destroy Charix, and the three Eldrazi legendary titans also had annihilate.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
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    And kaldheim photo from plane chase has snow so with out even knowing by default snow is coming back in standard


    and for strixhaven two predictions

    1. It’s a Harry Potter/hogwarts inspired plane

    2. It’s Kasmina‘s home plane plus they mentioned during war of the spark they have plans for her


    We got this far down before someone said Harry Potter for Strixhaven. Totally sounds like Harry Potter. Bet they even play Quiddich or whatever.

    I am here for this Time Spiral. That was my favorite block of all time.


    I wonder how these reprints will affect card prices.


    I’m only here for what’s in Time Spiral too. Specifically if they used this opportunity to update wording on those Slivers to “any target”, “enters the battlefield”, “mill”, “permanent”, “menace”, “reach” what have you.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
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    I’m in a state of shock right now about all these announcements of upcoming sets, upcoming Secret Lairs, and Zendikar Rising reveals, they may have hit even on my sweet spots, wow.


    I'm in a state of shock right now about all these announcements of upcoming sets, upcoming Secret Lairs, and Zendikar Rising reveals, and not a single 'wallet fatigue' complaint.

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    #BLM
    #DefundThePolice


    No movie theater patronage, concerts, sporting events, vacationing that uses flights, might be the explanation no one is using wallet fatigue for these reveals.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
    I’m in a state of shock right now about all these announcements of upcoming sets, upcoming Secret Lairs, and Zendikar Rising reveals, they may have hit even on my sweet spots, wow.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
    And mill. Forgot that one.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
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    Lots of Slivers in Time Spiral/Planar Chaos/Future Sight could use paper reprints with updated wording technology so I’m so stoked there as well!!!!


    They won't change the Slivers to "Slivers you control..." if that's what you mean. That would functionally change how the cards work, and they don't do functional errata to existing cards, even when reprinting.


    That is not what I meant. They will now place instances of “permanent”, “any target”, “menace”, “reach” (and anything else I’ve forgotten) where need be with the proper wording.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
    I better start saving money now, because 2021 looks like it is going to hurt my wallet.


    With probably no concerts in 2021 either (increasingly looking likely), that helps me save money for Modern Horizons 2 and Time Spiral Remastered.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
    I always wanted Sliversmith reprinted in paper in some kind of Modern Masters, or some kind of supplemental set so I can finally get my hands on officially released paper Metallic Sliver tokens. Please be in Time Spiral remastered!
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
    Lots of Slivers in Time Spiral/Planar Chaos/Future Sight could use paper reprints with updated wording technology so I’m so stoked there as well!!!!
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  • posted a message on [ZNR] Zendikar Rising Preview stream
    Oh please please please please please please let there be MORE Slivers in Modern Horizon 2!!!!!!!!
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  • posted a message on Secret lair involving zendikar to be revealed at mythic invitational
    I never put it past Wizards to count/put the promised 2020 reprinting of the allied Fetchlands in a Secret Lair as what they meant and say “we’re done!” So I wouldn’t be surprised with Secret Lair: Ultimate Edition 2 as the big reveal. What a sh*tshow that would be.
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