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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    So double the rares/foils and DOUBLE THE PRICE. So $19.99 a pack??? Yes I saw the 6.99 online price. Buying individual packs for under 10 bucks will be non-existant unless you buy a box. Prove me wrong WotC. I hope I am wrong, but I bet I'm not. Frown

    I'm guessing single packs at $15 and boxes will run about $240. For a few weeks it'll look like a great deal, then the cards will plummet in price and EV will be less than the box. Same crap different set.

    If these were $5 packs, the drop in prices on singles would be no big deal, but to gouge people based on potential value and then seeing all that value disappear isn't cool. But hey, same as it has been for about a decade...
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from rowanalpha »
    If the MTGO price is an indication, this SHOULD be a $170 booster box product. Its the same mtgo booster price as Modern Horizons, but a 24 pack box instead of 36.

    Also, at 332 it has 78 cards more than a normal set, so there are likely twice as many rares and mythics in the set as normal (68) so the odds of opening any individual rare or mythic is the same as a normal product.

    Too bad it won't be since they did away with MSRP.

    $10-15 a pack if the card selection is good.
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  • posted a message on Banned and restricted announcement (offical announcement)
    Yet Oko is still legal in Legacy. Probably because Ikoria packs are selling like hotcakes and the have tons of Throne sitting in a warehouse. lol
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  • posted a message on Gozilla Land Secret Lair
    Quote from RSSR »
    [quote from="Werewolf_Rawr »" url="/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/817185-gozilla-land-secret-lair?comment=16"]They already have with me on the enemy Fetchlands and Kaleidoscope Killers.

    You actually bought the enemy fetchland one?!
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  • posted a message on Mystery Booster complete list of foils
    This is so bad... Another lackluster, overpriced pack. Lots of those in the last decade...
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair - Thalia, Guardian of Thraben leaked
    Quote from foam_dome »
    They're not going to print super expensive cards in Secret Lair products, and here's why.

    It would reduce many players' financial incentive to play the game. While this isn't super important, many players buy into sets with the hopes of obtaining hot money cards, so if cards get devalued, a lot of players have less incentive to open packs, which hurts sales.

    It would piss off players who already dropped big money on those cards. While I don't think this should be used as an excuse to not lower the barrier to entry for older formats, many players would be highly upset if the cards that they spent so much money on their decks were to suddenly plummet in value thanks to a Secret Lair drop. One of the only safety nets in Magic is the ability to liquidate your cards if you ever leave the game, so fewer players would want to put their money toward a game that runs a high risk of a low return on investment. Again, this hurts sales.

    It would damage buyer confidence. Yes, it would make certain cards more affordable, but if Liliana dropped to $15 overnight because of a Secret Lair announcement, then would you feel confident in buying copies of Thoughtseize for $30 if they might drop the value to $10 next month? Would you buy Scalding Tarns for $60 if they might fall to $20?
    Now, if we get to the point where they somehow eventually made ALL of the non-Reserved List cards more affordable, that would be great for players getting into the game, but the aforementioned financial incentive would no longer be there and I suspect that a good number of the preexisting players would get fed up and not want to support the game anymore. Tournament Magic would lose a portion of its player base, which, once again, hurts sales. I'm sure it would recover over time, but who knows.

    Some of these points are redundant, I know.

    Disclaimer: Yes, I understand that Magic is a hobby for many people and that the financial value of their cards shouldn't dictate whether or not they play the game. I'm simply explaining why Wizards wouldn't choose to print things like Liliana of the Veil in this product.

    I watched Thoughtseize drop from $80 to $10 and didn't get butthurt. This game has always had big crashes due to reprints...
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair - Thalia, Guardian of Thraben leaked
    Quote from mikeyG »
    Even if they did a Liliana version of this, they could achieve it with one of her middling cards, you still wouldn't get Liliana of the Veil.

    Because Wizards acknowledges secondary. Which they are not supposed to do.
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  • posted a message on Ban announcement on March 9th
    Quote from Simto »
    I'm going to do a legit table flip if Ballista gets banned........
    I feel you. It's Heliod's fault, not Ballista. Create a problem and not deal with the problem, find a scapegoat. It's the way things go now.
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  • posted a message on Ban announcement on March 9th
    Quote from ccc1522 »
    Honestly oko should be deleted from the game.
    Totally agree... made me not want to play Legacy anymore...
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair - International Women's Day 2020
    I think this one is a cool theme. I think it's cool that they are donating money. I think it's complete garbage they are charging aftermarket pricing for individual cards.
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  • posted a message on 5 New Secret Lairs to be announced on Feb 14
    Prices of the Gods will drop and these will be worth far less. This isn't really a deal unless you like the art of these.
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  • posted a message on 5 New Secret Lairs to be announced on Feb 14
    Quote from Mishotem »
    So what should wotc do with secret lair? Make them a FTV series that scalps everyone and can be either over or under printed? Only to benefit parasitic “investors”?


    What should they do?

    Stop making them and put these reprints in a $4 booster set. Like they should do with ALL cards.

    And not everything being a mythic...
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  • posted a message on World Championship Weekend promo Crucible of Worlds
    Quote from leslak »
    The art looks good even if i m not sure what it is depicting XD

    It's a dude watering his garden.

    I wonder if that was Wizard's idea or the Artist... I don't applaud whoever decided that.
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  • posted a message on Full art Basics from Unsanctioned
    Quote from leslak »
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    Quote from DanzBorin »
    Ahh... Wizards pushing sales of product with lands is getting bad. It used to be once every few years, now it's multiple times a year. Enough already.


    You mean when they put them in unsets?


    I think he mean "on any product" cause full art lands were a big factor on the huge sales from Unglued, Unhinged, Zendikar(original) and Worldwake, Battle for Zendikar and Oath, etc (from a casual stand point(people that buy 10 boosters each set, more or less)) Now, since Battle for zendikar we had them in Amonkhet and hour, Unstable, the judge ones and other promos, Snow fullart, Nyx fullart. Maybe he is in a fatigue for fullart lands.

    Fullart lands are always welcome but ye they are really pushing theirs sales with fullart lands now (Theros collector's boosters and normal boosters, this, etc )

    Also, just for people to be aware: Every pack with the 5 30 cards decks comes with 5 fullart foil (1 for each basic land) and 5 non foil fullart (1 for each type) the lands inside the decks looks to be normal lands.


    For a normal set sure but who thought they wouldn't do full art lands for this? Unsets are where the idea first came from.


    The only legal cards (in sanctioned formats) are the lands (and one of the whys casuals bought it in the first place). As a casual it is the seccond product with fullart lands he is getting this year. (assuming he is a casual)

    Un sets are fun and all, but it's a pet project for Wizards that gets people to buy in with fancy lands. When you have a just released set with fancy lands and now this back to back, it's too much.

    Just like everything else Wizards did in the last year and continues to do... People thought the lottery cards were bad. That was mild compared to all of this other stuff.
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  • posted a message on Full art Basics from Unsanctioned
    Nyx lands are my go-to for full art now

    But they aren't even lands... Weird
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