I don't know sis, we were having a lovely chat about this plane until y'all came in with torches screeching about "white supremacists", so you tell me.
"All that was being suggested was that including black people and LGBT+ people in a Norse world was a strike against giving fascists what they want from this sort of world, and you know, that sounds like a nice thing to do."
I don't get why that triggered you so much
I think we all know, but if we say it out loud that's a moderatable offense
Is this supposed to be more clever than the first thing or less to distract from your obvious pattern of preemptively making fun of other people for using accurate terms to describe your own bigotry?
Sounds like Fake News to me when the "ulterior motive" you've inferred is only your own delusion.
You guys just love misusing loaded buzzwords, don't you? First Mary Sue, then "CNN bad," now fake news. When a post is composed of marginally-related buzzwords why would anyone want to engage with that earnestly?
Define "you guys"
Here's your available vocabulary list, per CNN's indoctrination rituals:
Racist
Sexist
Bigot
Misogynist
Transphobic
Except none of those apply to the valid reasons to criticize Kaya, or all Planeswalkers, as characters.
Sounds to me you're mad people can see that you are many of those things and you'd wish people would stop.
Meh
Call me Hitler and you'll have fulfilled your purpose.
You're going to have to work really hard to accomplish as much as that guy did, but I believe in you.
There isn’t any merit in trying to go over an argument with an ulterior motive. If someone is arguing in bad faith you’re simply wasting your time. The issue in his examples has zero to do with Kaya as a character after all,
Sounds like Fake News to me when the "ulterior motive" you've inferred is only your own delusion.
You guys just love misusing loaded buzzwords, don't you? First Mary Sue, then "CNN bad," now fake news. When a post is composed of marginally-related buzzwords why would anyone want to engage with that earnestly?
Define "you guys"
Here's your available vocabulary list, per CNN's indoctrination rituals:
Racist
Sexist
Bigot
Misogynist
Transphobic
Except none of those apply to the valid reasons to criticize Kaya, or all Planeswalkers, as characters.
Sounds to me you're mad people can see that you are many of those things and you'd wish people would stop.
We do not have the staff to moderate a forum designated to this kind of discussion. We used to have a forum dedicated to this type of discussion, we did not have the staff then, and the forum devolved into 4chan lite. I have no desire to moderate a 4chan lite, nor do I believe it is feasible, nor appropriate for this site. Perhaps one day we will have staff that is interested in bringing this back, and willing to moderate it, and perhaps even make it appropriate for the site. Currently, none of those are true. I will die on this hill.
Yes, threatconnect and crowd strike and more have both identified a number of signatures in APT28/29 (AKA Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear) and fingered them as who did this.
As for the Russian government, the actions of Sputnik/RT speak volumes. Particularly using wikileaks and getting Jill Stein to talk for them. It looks just like stuff Russia has being doing in Eastern Europe for years.
DJK -- I don't think anyone is really saying that Russia rigged it. This was an indirect attack, not a direct one like changing the results themselves.
Also, somewhat Ironic is that ZeroHedge was the first site that was discovered to be Russian Propaganda, way back in April of this year when one of the staff got fed up with the ridiculous editorial line and went public.
BS, I wonder sometimes about the most effective ways to reach people like this. Make more schools show American History X to their 9th graders? Seems to me that as attention spans have 'shrunk' in the modern world that media and such are the ways to show people the dark side of white nationalism in a way that also shows redemption? You're right on the money when it comes to the neo-nazi/gang connection there, but thats largely because the actual Neo-Nazi cells fit the same role that the gangs do in the inner city, right? I almost want to call your comparison cheating
This is some scary stuff man Reagan would be spinning in his grave if he knew that the Republican Party just sold out to Russia to win an election. Or even worse, if they got legit played.
Yeah, it's like we entered the Twilight Zone or something. True, Dubya talked a bit chummy about Putin at the outset, but that was a combination of his general good-naturedness and Putin's initial pro-Western overtures. For a xenophobic isolationist Republican in 2016 to act like the Russian strongman is friendly to America is just... upside-down. That's supposed to be the sort of naïve bleating coming out of the Jill Steins of the world.
At least Pence and Romney still talk tough about Russia.
This is baffling to me, too, dude. We're so afraid of so many countries for some many things, but the ex-KGB officer who has been either officially or de facto in charge for... 17 years? That's the guy we can trust.
I mean, at least Putin isn't Hillary Clinton, I hear she kills her political opponents and even journalists sometimes!
Even if it doesn't turn out to be pushed by Russia, the fact that we're living in a society where people can make a living coming up with and selling completely fake news to the entire world is kind of worrying.
Not the entire world as NPR interviewed one of the guys who trafficks in fake news said "We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out"
The evidence here comes at the tail end of other evidence I've read during this campaign. The DHS/DNI letter was my big big wake up call, and this whole "fake news" thing that people started talking about after the election, and then to find out multiple research teams have been tracking how it was lead by the Russian government with the goal to get a more pliant leader for my country? Makes that time he asked Russia to keep hacking us seem a lot worse (and it wasn't exactly roses at the time)
This is some scary stuff man Reagan would be spinning in his grave if he knew that the Republican Party just sold out to Russia to win an election. Or even worse, if they got legit played.
The flood of “fake news” this election season got support from a sophisticated Russian propaganda campaign that created and spread misleading articles online with the goal of punishing Democrat Hillary Clinton, helping Republican Donald Trump and undermining faith in American democracy, say independent researchers who tracked the operation.
Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda machinery — including thousands of botnets, teams of paid human “trolls,” and networks of Web sites and social-media accounts — echoed and amplified right-wing sites across the Internet as they portrayed Clinton as a criminal hiding potentially fatal health problems and preparing to hand control of the nation to a shadowy cabal of global financiers. The effort also sought to heighten the appearance of international tensions and promote fear of looming hostilities with nuclear-armed Russia.
Hey all, been gone for awhile, and then I saw this today and... I don't even know man. This has been a pretty ridiculous election year and now this? Forget being down 2 million votes, now we're in pseudo-Manchurian candidate territory here.
Thoughts? What do we, as a country, do when our elections get attacked?
As someone who has helped to put on multiple years of Gender Neutral Bathroom Week at my university (Washington State University - Vancouver) there are some things that need to get put out there that have been understandably missed so far (and FD4, you know you can always PM questions about what us libruls are doing
1. Trans people need more protection in the bathroom, not less.
For all the talk in North Carolina about protecting women by introducing superfluous legislation, they aren't the ones at risk when it comes to bathroom violence relating to a trans individual. The person in risk is the transgender one. The odds of someone getting attacks for not looking like they belong is significantly higher than the odds than a trans person is just trying to creep and as has been said, people creep anyway and we already have laws against creeping.
2. Even without direct violence, trans people suffer when it comes to using the restroom.
One of the first things after a particular incident happened at WSUV, we publicly showed the documentary Toilet Training. TL;DR is that there are a ton of problems trans people face in the bathroom because of social issues. The problem in question that happened on WSUV was that a F2M person was trying to go into the mens room and was rebuked. They were told to use their own restroom, the womens one. This individual, dejected, walked the few feet across the hall to the womens restroom and was rebuked.
Like many Trans people, this person just held it. Fun fact, being trans increases your risk of bladder cancer. Turns out holding it in until you get home is bad for your health, and yet, because of discrimination in restrooms those people have a shortened lifespan.
3. In 5 years of GNBW, the university had no complaints
Other than people complaining because, unlike FD4, they were still worked up over it. We had a shock jock in Portland freak out, for some reason. People said we were going to have tons of problems and... nothing happened. People peed next to someone with different genitals and... the world carried on. I washed my hands next to a lady. I was fine.
Oh, I think our bathrooms got a little cleaner because people didn't like looking like a slob next to people they were attracted to so... +1 for unisex restrooms!
Ooooh, oooh, so there is this card called Elvish Piper and when I was a teenager I thought that, heh ehheh eheh, that, heheh, that it should be Elvish CRACK Piper, hahaha. You know... uhh, because drugs are funy?Y?YY?
I think we all know, but if we say it out loud that's a moderatable offense
Only when the grammar police shoot a person of color with it
I would what?
What does "you would" even mean?
Edit: because now it says
Is this supposed to be more clever than the first thing or less to distract from your obvious pattern of preemptively making fun of other people for using accurate terms to describe your own bigotry?
You're going to have to work really hard to accomplish as much as that guy did, but I believe in you.
Sounds to me you're mad people can see that you are many of those things and you'd wish people would stop.
Meh
Bollocks
As for the Russian government, the actions of Sputnik/RT speak volumes. Particularly using wikileaks and getting Jill Stein to talk for them. It looks just like stuff Russia has being doing in Eastern Europe for years.
Also, somewhat Ironic is that ZeroHedge was the first site that was discovered to be Russian Propaganda, way back in April of this year when one of the staff got fed up with the ridiculous editorial line and went public.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog
All Russia identified hacking groups get Bear nicknames, if that wasn't obvious. It's the naming scheme crowdstrike, and others potentially, use
Panda = China
Bear = Russia
Kitten = Iran
India = Tiger
North Korea = Chollima (a mythical winged horse)
Non-Nation-State Adversaries
Jackal = Activist groups
Spider = Criminal groups
Also,
Typhoon,
You have repeatedly evaded K's question. I'd like to see some evidence, anything, about wikileaks accuracy.
And McCain, for that matter, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1IS38JIFY4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-trump-administration-thaw-with-russia-is-unacceptable-mccain-says/2016/11/15/a3b5c4da-ab5a-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html
This is baffling to me, too, dude. We're so afraid of so many countries for some many things, but the ex-KGB officer who has been either officially or de facto in charge for... 17 years? That's the guy we can trust.
I mean, at least Putin isn't Hillary Clinton, I hear she kills her political opponents and even journalists sometimes!
Not the entire world as NPR interviewed one of the guys who trafficks in fake news said "We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out"
The evidence here comes at the tail end of other evidence I've read during this campaign. The DHS/DNI letter was my big big wake up call, and this whole "fake news" thing that people started talking about after the election, and then to find out multiple research teams have been tracking how it was lead by the Russian government with the goal to get a more pliant leader for my country? Makes that time he asked Russia to keep hacking us seem a lot worse (and it wasn't exactly roses at the time)
This is some scary stuff man
Hey all, been gone for awhile, and then I saw this today and... I don't even know man. This has been a pretty ridiculous election year and now this? Forget being down 2 million votes, now we're in pseudo-Manchurian candidate territory here.
Thoughts? What do we, as a country, do when our elections get attacked?
1. Trans people need more protection in the bathroom, not less.
For all the talk in North Carolina about protecting women by introducing superfluous legislation, they aren't the ones at risk when it comes to bathroom violence relating to a trans individual. The person in risk is the transgender one. The odds of someone getting attacks for not looking like they belong is significantly higher than the odds than a trans person is just trying to creep and as has been said, people creep anyway and we already have laws against creeping.
2. Even without direct violence, trans people suffer when it comes to using the restroom.
One of the first things after a particular incident happened at WSUV, we publicly showed the documentary Toilet Training. TL;DR is that there are a ton of problems trans people face in the bathroom because of social issues. The problem in question that happened on WSUV was that a F2M person was trying to go into the mens room and was rebuked. They were told to use their own restroom, the womens one. This individual, dejected, walked the few feet across the hall to the womens restroom and was rebuked.
Like many Trans people, this person just held it. Fun fact, being trans increases your risk of bladder cancer. Turns out holding it in until you get home is bad for your health, and yet, because of discrimination in restrooms those people have a shortened lifespan.
3. In 5 years of GNBW, the university had no complaints
Other than people complaining because, unlike FD4, they were still worked up over it. We had a shock jock in Portland freak out, for some reason. People said we were going to have tons of problems and... nothing happened. People peed next to someone with different genitals and... the world carried on. I washed my hands next to a lady. I was fine.
Oh, I think our bathrooms got a little cleaner because people didn't like looking like a slob next to people they were attracted to so... +1 for unisex restrooms!