Ramos is not budget. I think ghave should be the right one. you can go different places and it'll translate well into another deck. brago is very one dimensional.
Gishath is probably the least competitive but really encompasses edh flashy and fun. just throw all your dinosaurs and some ramp and have fun. id like it to playing ydris.
Omnath I think would be the easiest to build on your budget and keep it semi competitive.
without knowing your budget oir your personal playstyle it's hard to give you some direction. Also is this going to be 1v1 or multiplayer. in a vacuum kess and master are pretty strong. Ramos can be pretty fun and strong as a spellslinger deck but not really at the same level.
I was applauded by the person I knocked out with the winter orb. he stopped the combo player from combining off and I ended up combining my next turn. It was a jerk move and I'd do it again if the opportunity arises. like someone up above said not making the optimal play is an equal jerk move because you are discrediting your opponents play ability.
I'm the guy that has played a winter orb on a opponent that played a tapped out pact of negation
Wait, what? I don't understand why this gets a lots of praise compared to shunned Master of Cruelties somebody out of the game. Does punishing playing the pact feels like "he brought that upon himself" or "he played a counterspell so he deserves to lose instantly"?
I view both as a legit plays, just don't understand the difference, why one should be considered a jerk move and the second not. Both ends in player knocked out of the game (while the Master one is even less brutal, the player gets to continue playing, and can still win with his 1 life).
Master of cruelty always has the same effect. The winter orb line of play is a corner case. However I have no problems with either as playing with orb effects is generally seen as a jerk move. if you're going to make a jerk move live with the consequences. I'm always willing to be the villain and don't get upset when I am treated as such.
Maybe us stax players find it in fun when we sit down to play a social game and a combo player goes off on their turn for ten minutes.
Come prepared to play against it. Bring artifact and enchantment hate. I would never show up without creature removal because decks that turn sideways will stop being fun. Sounds like your playgroup is not prepared for stax.
A card people underrate with token doublers is Mimic Vat if you get something nice under it, like a Duplicant or a card with an ETB or death trigger you can go to town.
I cant count how many times i've gotten a Wurmcoil Engine under mimic vat. After picking up my doubling season its the reason why i decided to try to play Rhys.
Derevi is also like Gaddock Teeg, except its probably more oppressive. However you guys can always go full on Archenemy and attack the combo players first and then continue after. They should get tired of being first out, use your politics and get the other players to team up on the combo player.
I was also thinking the mimeoplasm. Like your friends decks they can be built really well with cheap stuff, but if you guys are slowly growing together, it has potential for some really degenerate stuff down the road. I know you are looking for a black deck, but i would also run blue, as the Jhoria deck already screams "kill me" without looking at the decklist.
I think reaper king would be a better odds and ends deck. If most of your good lands are in other decks, it kind of allows you to pay the two colorless to make up the fact its just s thrown together deck.
With DD out, you copy it with the Thespian Stage, and you sac the orginial. The game does a check, and the Thespian Stage, has 0 counters on it, since the DD places them when it comes into play, and you get the 20/20 Marit Lage.
I personally find that fastbond is only good in your opening hand, and you never really want to draw into it especially after you already have exploration on the board. I dropped fastbond pretty quickly after testing the deck with it in.
as someone who plays 43 Lands, i would say not to play lands against Vintage, if you are going to be playing for the lulz, then i would just play it like it is, probably the G/R Version as its faster, and from the sounds of it, you seem to want to play the fast version instead of the slower control version.
Omnath I think would be the easiest to build on your budget and keep it semi competitive.
Master of cruelty always has the same effect. The winter orb line of play is a corner case. However I have no problems with either as playing with orb effects is generally seen as a jerk move. if you're going to make a jerk move live with the consequences. I'm always willing to be the villain and don't get upset when I am treated as such.
Come prepared to play against it. Bring artifact and enchantment hate. I would never show up without creature removal because decks that turn sideways will stop being fun. Sounds like your playgroup is not prepared for stax.
I cant count how many times i've gotten a Wurmcoil Engine under mimic vat. After picking up my doubling season its the reason why i decided to try to play Rhys.
I personally find that fastbond is only good in your opening hand, and you never really want to draw into it especially after you already have exploration on the board. I dropped fastbond pretty quickly after testing the deck with it in.